if it were a male MC "teaching" little girls, women would love that. And the game would be played by women .Now WE love it and we play it .
(not perfect english but i think you understand what i say)
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(not perfect english but i think you understand what i say)
what suprise?Ok, let's try to put some pieces together and unpack this v0.180.
Let's start with the numbers. There were 293 renders in the end, 33 for the resolution of the cliffhanger in Sam's event, and 260 for the hairdresser event. That makes a total of 462 renders for Sam's event. If you are interested in statistics, here is an updated graph for the top 15 events in terms of renders. Sam's is a solid second and the hairdresser event is 9th, a not-so-short event, after all.
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The cliffhanger
In the end, the cliffhanger, without much surprise, turned out to be a nothing burger. As in many tv-series and movies, Sam managed to close the door before Julia could see. Adding a new superpower to his already rich set of skills
As for the event itself, here are some random observations:
- Sophia will continue the romance only if she looks at the drawing and rewards him with a kiss. There is a little inconsistency between the code and the walkthrough: in the code, she continues no matter the kiss. This will be probably fixed in the next release.
- We noted in the previous release that Sophia could progress with Sam (remove the bra when they are in bed) only if she didn't have sex with Liam in the office and after the casino night. That left out the possible sex the night before the prison visit (PD 11) and now that condition
day18_Sophia_Liam_had_sex_on_day18has been added as well. So be aware if you are not replaying from the gallery.
- There were many speculations about the possibility of someone watching from the Parker house what happened in Sam's bedroom. Especially after the very last minute teaser of v0.180 in which Sophia and Dylan were in the car, seemingly talking about something embarrassing. Now we know that Dylan was not watching, as Sophia subtlly asked him when she realized that he could have been at home the whole time. There should be no surprises about this, it would be a horrible retro-fitting if at some point in the future we learn the opposite (especially considering Dylan's thoughts at the end of the next event).
That doesn't mean that nobody was watching, though. After all... nobody knows yet
- For once, there is a nice transition between the events, with Sophia having some thoughts and processing what happened. Well, at least if one was playing Sam's event.
- As for the aftermath of Sam's event, we see that Sophia embraced this juvenile secret-girlfriend relationship. Although, we know that next event with Sam on PD 14 will be short and focused on the cello lesson and that Sophia will try to cool things off to protect her marriage.
- One question remain, though, and it is about the branches of the story with the other choices in the hot tub event: Sam's event could happen only if she hid him in the hot tub, but even for the other choices she said she wanted to talk with him. One possibility could be that, for those two branches that still need some resolution the early and short event with Ellie will be all about trying to setting her up with Sam to avoid any further problems (and, in case, for this could also happen if Sophia refused to go further with Sam at any moment during the cello lesson).
The hairdresser event
At the beginning of the new event, while Sophia processes what happened, we discover that the reason for the trip to Claire is to impress Liam for the upcoming romantic night out. This is the first time it is mentioned, probably because it would have spoiled the evening events (?).
Then we found Dylan in the living room, either just arrived home or just brought home by Patricia (who we don't get to see) from the boarding school. And here Sophia realizes the risk she took in Sam's bedroom.
As expected, the event is splitted in two sub-events, following Sophia/Claire at the salon and Dylan/Marie. While there is no choice of POV as in the yoga event, the choices made back then have some influence on the events.
Sophia/Claire
To get the full event with Claire, one needs to have played Sophia's POV in the yoga event. Only in this case, she can allow Claire to touch her breasts and get a lesbian point. In particular, the requirements are:
- 14
patriciapoints to get to the choice- at least 10
lesbianpoint to accept.
On the other hand, the massage with the lotion will happen anyways, and, as usual, you need more filthy points thangood_wifepoints to let Devon peek under the transparent cape.
Some takeaways from the Sophia/Claire event:
- as usual, the event was interrupted when things started to get spicy between them. Claire came off almost with a predatory vibe, let alone the political rant. It seems like, though, that there won't be any lesbian content with her
- As it has been noted by many here, the thesaurus has been ransacked for the description of Sophia's breast, at times with some weird expressions. Here is a collection:
- "She gently gave Sophia's milk dispenser a little tweak, which Sophia's body reacted with a slight shiver of goosebumps."
- "She alternately massaged the plump, soft, round skin cushions a little more in all directions, noticing how Sophia looked a little uncertain."
- "Devon enjoyed chatting with her, continuing to occasionally drop his gaze down at her large, exposed eye-catchers."
- "As she chatted with Devon, she figured he seemed quite pleased with her luscious funbags and chuckled inwardly."
- "By now, her top had slipped even further down, revealing her twins in all their glory through the sheer fabric."
- "They continued to talk whilst Devon kept making eye contact with both her and her twins."
- "On one hand, he wanted to smack this slimy creep. On the other hand, it aroused him seeing him flirt with his mom while her voluptuous, nude titties were poking out in his direction, free for that guy to devour them with his lecherous glances."
- "Well, there're certainly worse things than two guys seeing your hooters for a second. Shit happens, I guess."
- (for Marie) "As hard as it was, Dylan tore his gaze from the girl's adorable pleasure melons and tried to have a normal conversation with her again."
- This might be the (usual) personal rant and nitpicking, but again there were some opportunities to include some inner thoughts for Sophia to improve the game immersion and make a link with past events. For example when Sophia says that her breasts have never been touched by another woman like that:
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she could have at least thought about Ellie, Julia or Nathalie, according to the path.
Or, again, in this case
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it is not really true considering for example the sauna event with Vicky or even the 3rd task. Ok, the context and the situation might have been different but it wouldn't have hurt to have this kind of connection.
- In any case, regarding this last passage, we can note that this update give us a Sophia more open to exhibitionism in public and to get herself engaged in erotic situations. We'll see where this may lead.
Dylan/Marie
Similarly to Sophia/Claire, this event requires to have played Dylan's POV during the yoga event, so that he can get the 3mariepoints that will be necessary to complete this event.
The other important condition is that Dylan "borrows" money from Sophia's wallet at the very beginning, otherwise he won't be able to tip the waitress (thus impressing Marie and getting the points) and pay for the laundry and get to see Marie without bra.
"Borrowing" money is an interesting choice, story-wise. It seems like there will be more to it (he cannot have spent that much for the ice-creams and the laundry!
This **could** mean that the rest of the money could still play a role in the next events (e.g. buying the booze for the party) or he will have to find a way to earn (or win) the money back somehow.
The "new feeling"
The end of the event is probably the "surprise" of the whole update. L&P already hinted before the release that the cuckold points might come into play sooner than we might have thought. Not to mention the last-minute teaser that we all interpreted as proof that Dylan was watching Sam's bedroom.
In any case, this event seems to mark the start of the cuckold route. While before there were only bland choices to collect the points and some dialogues depending on them, from Dylan's thoughts it seems that the next time he will really go to the bottom of it to test Sophia.
Now, before we get started with wild speculations (we did it already!
Interestingly, what happens in this event, cuckold included, can be played in the boarding school route. Which could mean that, while the boarding school path prevents any further interaction with Sophia, the cuckolding path **could** still be available in this route as well. The answer L&P gave to this question *seems* to be in that direction but the phrasing does not resolve all ambiguities.
The other aspect to consider is how Dylan will play out this cuckold thing. Will he scheme something from the beginning to put Sophia to test, or will it take the chance when the situation presents and either let it happen or push Sophia in some sort of situation?
One of the candidates is surely the soccer team and the events on the afternoon of PD14 when Sophia will drive Dylan to the football match. We got confirmation that Darnell (one of the teammates) will play a role there, as he did already in the past when he made some comments about Sophia in Dylan's presence. That could be one of the possibilities for the cuckold route.
And, btw, you might have noticed that Dylan said to Marie that the football match was the next day at lunchtime, while we were told by Sophia it was at 3:30pm during the tutoring event. Fear not, L&P's definition of lunchtime is way much looser than my definition of breakfast during the weekend
What's next
This update gave us also a little glimpse of what could happen in the evening events between Sophia and Dylan. Sophia is supposed to meet Liam for a romantic dinner. The easiest guess would be that the dinner is canceled to Sophia's great disappointment because e.g. Liam is stuck at work or some other unexpected event.
Following the typical cliché, Dylan could be helping with the dress choice at first, only to find himself consoling and cheering up her mother or even replacing Liam for the dinner out. And the evening could continue e.g. by the home pool/hot tub with a complimentary massage etc.
We do know that there will be a choice about the restaurant as L&P has indirectly confirmed that the restaurant plan might derail.
Needless to say that all speculations about a cuckold event during the dinner are now deprecated given L&P answer.
Let me finish with a cliffhanger question.
We know that Sophia won't have a harem, only one LI per route. Sam is now an "official" LI with the secret girlfriend deal. Dylan is supposed to get to the same level of progress as Sam by the end of the evening. Could this mean that the evening events can only happen if Sophia did not continue the relationship with Sam?
If what you are suggesting is true then we again have three choices as with the Jacuzzi event. And again, the choice that makes Sophia look the most like a mental bimbo is the choice that continues the relationship with Sam.
In the Jacuzzi event, it was the choice where Sam didn't care at all about the consequences of his actions for Sophia if Liam had seen him in the water.
And in this event:
- When Sophia says after her orgasm "What did I just do, I love my husband!", Sam replies "You just need time". Here he drops the mask, in my opinion.
- No one enters my room without knocking. Now admittedly a white lie, but a lie.
- When Sam makes a connection between a woman's menstrual phase and her mental abilities and L&P doesn't let Sophia disagree.
I was quite happy at the end that the choice not to give Sam a kiss without consequences does not let me continue the route.
If that changes again now I wonder if two times is already a pattern and the next time we have again three decision options of which but only one, the stupidest, the route continues.
That would have made more sense, as he was at boarding school with Zac...and as you don't see Patricia anyway.
The only reason would be if it had repercussions later?!
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Dunno. Don't think anything was mentioned about him in the update, as far as I can remember.
Must admit, I skipped through it quickly.
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From what xxxorro posted of the conversation, Sophia was meant to pick Dylan up Saturday morning, but for some reason not explained, Patricia brought Dylan home. "me", not "us".
It occurs to me that some sports cars (and even my Jeep) are only two-seaters, so it's quite possible that only Dylan was brought. Which doesn't look that kindly on Dylan, leaving his friend behind.
Again, this could be due to something happening later in the storyline, or else these details have been skipped over as irrelevant?!
I don't get deep into speculation, nor read others before a release. I prefer the story to unfold as I go through it...which is why I'd prefer a longer wait with a bigger update/more events.
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I don't normally speculate either - I'm just noticing increasingly lately that particularly on the boarding school route Dylan doesn't come off in the best light. Even down to there being a separate render of his room being a complete pigsty. He's even now stealing from his mother. Why couldn't he just ask for the money from Sophia? Or go to an ATM?
I don't think that L&P is investing as much time and energy into the boarding school route as he is any of the Sophia-focused routes.
I think the primary LI that will continue to get attention (on the boarding school route) is the Dylan/Amber 'LI', continuing the 'competition' between Dylan and Sam with each others mothers.
I don't believe that Dylan chose to abandon Zak at boarding school - I just think it is a detail that is not important to this part of the story.
With Alyssa being out of town until Tuesday (the soonest she said she could see Sophia, if I remember this correctly since it was years ago RL), Zak may not have wanted to return home.
I went to a high school with boarders and I saw some of the rooms - the guy's rooms usually ranged from dirty/unorganized to pigsties while the women's rooms were almost always the opposite.
If you thought Dylan's room was a pigsty, one of my brother's could have hosted an archaeological dig in his room to visit Christmas and birthdays past, in chronological order.
I think that L&P added a plot device (Dylan borrowing money) that give an easy yes/no to the full Dylan Marie event, but that was not the real purpose.
I think that this plays a bigger role later when Dylan has to find a way to put all the money back (and goes to the point others have made - does he need it to buy booze for the Christine party and for points with Ellie; does he need to play a game or win a bet to get enough $ to replace everything he took...) it could be a year in RL before we know the full impact of this.
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I just find it curious and telling that Dylan said "dropped me off" instead of us off. If not of Dylan's character, then of L&P's. Of course it could just be that since I play the boarding school route that those details are the ones that spring to mind.
Like how I'm still curious as to why Aiden hasn't made an appearance on the boarding school route. He's essentially just disappeared into obscurity instead of following through on his threat.
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Ok, let's try to put some pieces together and unpack this v0.180.
Let's start with the numbers. There were 293 renders in the end, 33 for the resolution of the cliffhanger in Sam's event, and 260 for the hairdresser event. That makes a total of 462 renders for Sam's event. If you are interested in statistics, here is an updated graph for the top 15 events in terms of renders. Sam's is a solid second and the hairdresser event is 9th, a not-so-short event, after all.
View attachment 2386564
The cliffhanger
In the end, the cliffhanger, without much surprise, turned out to be a nothing burger. As in many tv-series and movies, Sam managed to close the door before Julia could see. Adding a new superpower to his already rich set of skills
As for the event itself, here are some random observations:
- Sophia will continue the romance only if she looks at the drawing and rewards him with a kiss. There is a little inconsistency between the code and the walkthrough: in the code, she continues no matter the kiss. This will be probably fixed in the next release.
- We noted in the previous release that Sophia could progress with Sam (remove the bra when they are in bed) only if she didn't have sex with Liam in the office and after the casino night. That left out the possible sex the night before the prison visit (PD 11) and now that condition
day18_Sophia_Liam_had_sex_on_day18has been added as well. So be aware if you are not replaying from the gallery.
- There were many speculations about the possibility of someone watching from the Parker house what happened in Sam's bedroom. Especially after the very last minute teaser of v0.180 in which Sophia and Dylan were in the car, seemingly talking about something embarrassing. Now we know that Dylan was not watching, as Sophia subtlly asked him when she realized that he could have been at home the whole time. There should be no surprises about this, it would be a horrible retro-fitting if at some point in the future we learn the opposite (especially considering Dylan's thoughts at the end of the next event).
That doesn't mean that nobody was watching, though. After all... nobody knows yet
- For once, there is a nice transition between the events, with Sophia having some thoughts and processing what happened. Well, at least if one was playing Sam's event.
- As for the aftermath of Sam's event, we see that Sophia embraced this juvenile secret-girlfriend relationship. Although, we know that next event with Sam on PD 14 will be short and focused on the cello lesson and that Sophia will try to cool things off to protect her marriage.
- One question remain, though, and it is about the branches of the story with the other choices in the hot tub event: Sam's event could happen only if she hid him in the hot tub, but even for the other choices she said she wanted to talk with him. One possibility could be that, for those two branches that still need some resolution the early and short event with Ellie will be all about trying to setting her up with Sam to avoid any further problems (and, in case, for this could also happen if Sophia refused to go further with Sam at any moment during the cello lesson).
The hairdresser event
At the beginning of the new event, while Sophia processes what happened, we discover that the reason for the trip to Claire is to impress Liam for the upcoming romantic night out. This is the first time it is mentioned, probably because it would have spoiled the evening events (?).
Then we found Dylan in the living room, either just arrived home or just brought home by Patricia (who we don't get to see
As expected, the event is splitted in two sub-events, following Sophia/Claire at the salon and Dylan/Marie. While there is no choice of POV as in the yoga event, the choices made back then have some influence on the events.
Sophia/Claire
To get the full event with Claire, one needs to have played Sophia's POV in the yoga event. Only in this case, she can allow Claire to touch her breasts and get a lesbian point. In particular, the requirements are:
- 14
patriciapoints to get to the choice- at least 10
lesbianpoint to accept.
On the other hand, the massage with the lotion will happen anyways, and, as usual, you need more filthy points thangood_wifepoints to let Devon peek under the transparent cape.
Some takeaways from the Sophia/Claire event:
- as usual, the event was interrupted when things started to get spicy between them. Claire came off almost with a predatory vibe, let alone the political rant. It seems like, though, that there won't be any lesbian content with her
- As it has been noted by many here, the thesaurus has been ransacked for the description of Sophia's breast, at times with some weird expressions. Here is a collection:
- "She gently gave Sophia's milk dispenser a little tweak, which Sophia's body reacted with a slight shiver of goosebumps."
- "She alternately massaged the plump, soft, round skin cushions a little more in all directions, noticing how Sophia looked a little uncertain."
- "Devon enjoyed chatting with her, continuing to occasionally drop his gaze down at her large, exposed eye-catchers."
- "As she chatted with Devon, she figured he seemed quite pleased with her luscious funbags and chuckled inwardly."
- "By now, her top had slipped even further down, revealing her twins in all their glory through the sheer fabric."
- "They continued to talk whilst Devon kept making eye contact with both her and her twins."
- "On one hand, he wanted to smack this slimy creep. On the other hand, it aroused him seeing him flirt with his mom while her voluptuous, nude titties were poking out in his direction, free for that guy to devour them with his lecherous glances."
- "Well, there're certainly worse things than two guys seeing your hooters for a second. Shit happens, I guess."
- (for Marie) "As hard as it was, Dylan tore his gaze from the girl's adorable pleasure melons and tried to have a normal conversation with her again."
- This might be the (usual) personal rant and nitpicking, but again there were some opportunities to include some inner thoughts for Sophia to improve the game immersion and make a link with past events. For example when Sophia says that her breasts have never been touched by another woman like that:
View attachment 2386697
she could have at least thought about Ellie, Julia or Nathalie, according to the path.
Or, again, in this case
View attachment 2386701
it is not really true considering for example the sauna event with Vicky or even the 3rd task. Ok, the context and the situation might have been different but it wouldn't have hurt to have this kind of connection.
- In any case, regarding this last passage, we can note that this update give us a Sophia more open to exhibitionism in public and to get herself engaged in erotic situations. We'll see where this may lead.
Dylan/Marie
Similarly to Sophia/Claire, this event requires to have played Dylan's POV during the yoga event, so that he can get the 3mariepoints that will be necessary to complete this event.
The other important condition is that Dylan "borrows" money from Sophia's wallet at the very beginning, otherwise he won't be able to tip the waitress (thus impressing Marie and getting the points) and pay for the laundry and get to see Marie without bra.
"Borrowing" money is an interesting choice, story-wise. It seems like there will be more to it (he cannot have spent that much for the ice-creams and the laundry!
This **could** mean that the rest of the money could still play a role in the next events (e.g. buying the booze for the party) or he will have to find a way to earn (or win) the money back somehow.
The "new feeling"
The end of the event is probably the "surprise" of the whole update. L&P already hinted before the release that the cuckold points might come into play sooner than we might have thought. Not to mention the last-minute teaser that we all interpreted as proof that Dylan was watching Sam's bedroom.
In any case, this event seems to mark the start of the cuckold route. While before there were only bland choices to collect the points and some dialogues depending on them, from Dylan's thoughts it seems that the next time he will really go to the bottom of it to test Sophia.
Now, before we get started with wild speculations (we did it already!
Interestingly, what happens in this event, cuckold included, can be played in the boarding school route. Which could mean that, while the boarding school path prevents any further interaction with Sophia, the cuckolding path **could** still be available in this route as well. The answer L&P gave to this question *seems* to be in that direction but the phrasing does not resolve all ambiguities.
The other aspect to consider is how Dylan will play out this cuckold thing. Will he scheme something from the beginning to put Sophia to test, or will it take the chance when the situation presents and either let it happen or push Sophia in some sort of situation?
One of the candidates is surely the soccer team and the events on the afternoon of PD14 when Sophia will drive Dylan to the football match. We got confirmation that Darnell (one of the teammates) will play a role there, as he did already in the past when he made some comments about Sophia in Dylan's presence. That could be one of the possibilities for the cuckold route.
And, btw, you might have noticed that Dylan said to Marie that the football match was the next day at lunchtime, while we were told by Sophia it was at 3:30pm during the tutoring event. Fear not, L&P's definition of lunchtime is way much looser than my definition of breakfast during the weekend
What's next
This update gave us also a little glimpse of what could happen in the evening events between Sophia and Dylan. Sophia is supposed to meet Liam for a romantic dinner. The easiest guess would be that the dinner is canceled to Sophia's great disappointment because e.g. Liam is stuck at work or some other unexpected event.
Following the typical cliché, Dylan could be helping with the dress choice at first, only to find himself consoling and cheering up her mother or even replacing Liam for the dinner out. And the evening could continue e.g. by the home pool/hot tub with a complimentary massage etc.
We do know that there will be a choice about the restaurant as L&P has indirectly confirmed that the restaurant plan might derail.
Needless to say that all speculations about a cuckold event during the dinner are now deprecated given L&P answer.
Let me finish with a cliffhanger question.
We know that Sophia won't have a harem, only one LI per route. Sam is now an "official" LI with the secret girlfriend deal. Dylan is supposed to get to the same level of progress as Sam by the end of the evening. Could this mean that the evening events can only happen if Sophia did not continue the relationship with Sam?
I can twist and turn it how I want, I can't find a way for Dylan to catch up in such a short amount of time as anything to do with blackmail. Sophia will not have sex with men was said, or am I wrong? I can't imagine that she will have an orgasm from Dylan because of the current situation and because he is her son. She's given Sam more feelings and affection and trust in the last two updates than anyone else in the entire game before. I really have no plan...
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I haven’t given this any consideration before, but could Patricia have driven Dylan home and then been the one who saw Sophia and Sam in the window? Isn’t that part of her role in this game, so see Sophia’s sexual side and then encourage her? Patricia was the one who caught Sophia letting Tyler slide his hand under her skirt and play with her pussy. I’m vague on the Biker Bar scene now, but doesn’t Patricia realize that there is something going on between Sophia and Sam, and encourage Sophia to ride home Sam? Perhaps this will be divulged in the Museum event?
For plastic surgeries i mean ,breast implants ,ass implants and lip filler ,or nose job.i didn't meaned medical emergencies. I always loved games where a normal woman becomes a bimbo so i tought that maybe this coudl be an idea for the final part. It depends..there are games where there is only corruption ,so the girl changes her behaviour and there is also my favourite genre ,corruption +bimbofication ,so the girl slowly gets corrupted and also change her style such as sophia started to do and maybe adding surgeries but it depend on dev's tastes
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"The game is very interesting. Branching the plot because of your decisions, in principle, is not the worst thing either. But not without disadvantages. Now updates are coming out, for me, almost empty, because earlier you made a different choice. It's sad. You are waiting for an update, and in the end, what is not available to you in the update.
Please, who has the opportunity, throw off the save where Sofia goes to visit Sam.
Such an intriguing ending in the last update, but I can't watch the sequel."
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It better not, I do think that would actually make me change my 5 out of 5 review to 1 out of 5.Let me finish with a cliffhanger question.
We know that Sophia won't have a harem, only one LI per route. Sam is now an "official" LI with the secret girlfriend deal. Dylan is supposed to get to the same level of progress as Sam by the end of the evening. Could this mean that the evening events can only happen if Sophia did not continue the relationship with Sam?
I doubt L&P would do that, it would make no real sense to do it considering Sam's route starts alongside Dylan, I think L&P is smart enough to see that would annoy many people and it would be something like Dylan's deal with Aiden, L&P would have to walk that back due to complaints I would think.
I'm with you on this, I didn't like the stealing the money was in there at all.
hey guys, L&P made a remake of the beginning of the game, do you know about that? did him release this remake?