ancienregimele

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My beliefs on the "realism" aspect of this game is that this game has never actually been that realistic.

I think the slower pace of the updates skew what has and is actually happening in the game. People get hung up on what LP says about "realism" but somehow miss what the game itself has been saying.

Sophia, in the span of 13 days, which is not a long time. Has gone from a woman that didn't want to wear a bikini in front of her teenage kids (Sophia, by the way, was supposedly wild in her college days) to making out and being groped by her sons BFF.

Is that realistic? No, on both counts. Moms, especially fairly wealthy (implying they've had a pool before and/or take beach trips) and very attractive moms like Sophia, shouldn't feel any weirdness about wearing bikinis in front of their kids. Or weirdness about putting lotion on their daughter. Or weirdness about her son sitting on her lap.

Logically, she should've done those things multiple times before. There are many cases like this where Sophia does or doesn't do things that, logically, she shouldn't do or should've already done.

This game also isn't much of a "slowburn". I mean, sure, it's slow compared to other FMC games which are by and large walking-talking sex simulators but it's still, to me, not that slow. It just feels that way because of the update timeframes. As noted above, Sophia started out unrealistically conservative and prudish. Despite that having direct clashes with her backstory (wild college chick).

However, choosing to ignore the backstory issues and just going off how prudish she was at the start of the game, Sophia does something sexual almost everyday, and at least recently, in every event. From making out with her daughter, to bikini shows for her son and friend, to kissing her daughters friends, to helping 12 years olds put on condoms and letting them grope you to swapping spit with your neighbors son.

You don't go from being a prude to agreeing to that stuff in a matter of days. There are lots of sexual things besides sex, AWAM does this pretty well, much better than 99% of games, but that still doesn't mean it's slowburn.
Realism was always relative. If we wanted RL realism it might take an individual anything up to 10 years to step outside a relatively stable 20 year marriage & home life, as a result of slow burn corruption. Now AWAM is due to take over another 30 years, wait, what do you know, the Dev could have gone down this route after all. It could all have happened in real time.

I prefer to think of the original few years of AWAM as an erotic fiction with a veneer of realism. It was great. Your point about how fast Sophia has, in her reality, been corrupted has been noted on a number of occasions but that is if San Alejo time is being considered. L&P started off with a prudish, almost nun-like Sophia, which in the desire to show how far she would be corrupted, was far too exaggerated. If she'd been just like an ordinary person in her attitudes, that would have sufficed.

Nobody, (well almost nobody), doubts the quality of the renders. I used to think that when the Dev was on form the writing was also good. On his best days certainly.

Sadly, as far as the slow burn goes, it has changed conceptually & we now have several disparate stories under the same banner, akin to some bad '70s teen porn movie but in slow motion. Who will be first? Does anybody care that much anymore? So, with the realism gone & the logic on hold, the development down to the pace of a geriatric snail & the Dev so exhausted that he needs 2 weeks off after every single event. What's next for AWAM?
 

rAmSiMaL

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So:

1. Any reason why this update took almost 3 months to make?

2. Any reason why the work on the new update is not started after two weeks of 0% ?

3. Any reason to believe, after adding 2 more circles, that after all 6 are at 100% we will add 3 more so we can have Dante's wet dream? And rename them to: Limbo, Lust, Gluttony, Greed, Wrath, Heresy, Violence, Fraud, Treachery so it would actually be fun following their progression?

Just saying
1. Christmas
2. Winter school holidays in Europe
3. Because having 1.9k patreons offering you an average of 10 euros each you don’t need another job…

Btw somewhere in 2019 he was complaining that people are demanding him to get faster and he said that he is going to finish the game in 3-5 years from then… if this is still valid he is going to finish in 2 years from now (I know… just wishful thinking … I would be happy if he finishes it by 2029… yes, still wishful thinking…)
 

Alley_Cat

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1. Christmas
2. Winter school holidays in Europe
3. Because having 1.9k patreons offering you an average of 10 euros each you don’t need another job…

Btw somewhere in 2019 he was complaining that people are demanding him to get faster and he said that he is going to finish the game in 3-5 years from then… if this is still valid he is going to finish in 2 years from now (I know… just wishful thinking … I would be happy if he finishes it by 2029… yes, still wishful thinking…)
To finish within 5 years, he'd need to be completing a PD every .3 of a year, so every 4 months. Can anyone honestly claim he's even trying to be close to even looking at that, let alone achieving it?

We're lucky if we get a single Dylan update within 4 months, let alone an entire PD. And we have to endure the next four updates, entirely focused on Dylan.
 

abram1

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1. Christmas
2. Winter school holidays in Europe
3. Because having 1.9k patreons offering you an average of 10 euros each you don’t need another job…

Btw somewhere in 2019 he was complaining that people are demanding him to get faster and he said that he is going to finish the game in 3-5 years from then… if this is still valid he is going to finish in 2 years from now (I know… just wishful thinking … I would be happy if he finishes it by 2029… yes, still wishful thinking…)
Lil' did he know at that time, that his VN becomes one of the most popular ever. When random people literally throw cash at you, begging to continue, you don't reject such opportunity.

AWAM, simply put, has turned out too big to handle. Either some storylines needs to chopped off mercilessly, the focus on image quality could've been reduced, animations laid back till actual in-and-out scenes or the amount of renders for the event cut to 250 tops no matter what. He's like a dog, chasing down a driving vehicle. Can't restrain itself, has to go after it, just like that.
This guy wanna do most parts by himself. If it takes two decades, so what, folks gonna pay up in any case, they are hooked to the story. Sort of a downward/upward spiral depending on a point of view. Is it a scam, like others openly proclaim? Absolutely ... not. L&P doesn't really give a damn, especially about opinion of non-payers. Back in 2017-2018 he had to be more humble, interacting with potential customers, responding to unpleasant criticism. Once gaining his core paying audience he answers to them, which is totally fair. He who pays the piper calls the tune.

It's not the Sophia/Dylan or Sophia/Ellie content I'm criticising. It's the Dylan/... events that have nothing to do with Sophia. Dylan/Emma, Dylan/Amber and the bonus storyline have little to nothing to do with Sophia - the wife and mother.
How dare you? What can be as awesome as banging your hot mom? Banging your friend's mommy! Sophia/Dylan; Dylan/Amber; Sophia/Sam; Sophia/Zack - that's a multifaceted dice with Sophia/Ellie and Sophia/Jules on the sides. It has mother and wife as an option in any case.
Side stories aren't the problem, their amount and dubious storytelling is. Shifting the focus on Dylan is logical, as he's been staying way behind in comparison to Ellie and Sam. Making him a semi-MC wasn't the brightest idea, though. Why treat him that differently, Ellie is almost as popular as Dylan in the polls, yet we've never seen events from her POV. Guess, the priority now is face-lifting first PD's. Hopefully, we'll see one day PD's turning into DP's, I'm counting that Dylan and Sammy-boy won't disappoint.
 

Dr.SigmundFap

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After 1,5 years, let's check your favorite characters again. Will Dylan stay number one or if someone else takes his place?
Sophia as the MC is still excluded from the vote. The character directory can assist you here.

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MrFallKnight

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Who has CG renders for Sophia/Dylan/Sam event or just Sophia/Dylan bikini photoshoot event?
I’m also looking for Sophia/Dylan event where she lets Dylan see her breast.
Please provide link, preferably MEGA. I wanna still saving those CG renders. Please and thank you.
 
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what was this last update about and way was it necessary they just got a hair cut I mean, they didn't need a new hair style, there were so many things to do instead, looks L&P is to lazy to think on what to do he is repeatedly doing the same thing over and over again, where is the creativity and the story should get hotter not colder like this last update, L&P I don't care about this f* delay of yours but please at give us something good, I can't put my money after a update I didn't like expecting the next update may get better, I wanna see a good thing then pay for it.
 
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InnerEvil

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After 1,5 years, let's check your favorite characters again. Will Dylan stay number one or if someone else takes his place?
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I am pretty sure people will appreciate more if he starts working on next update, instead of doing these things. :rolleyes:
 

palmtrees89

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After 1,5 years, let's check your favorite characters again. Will Dylan stay number one or if someone else takes his place?
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I feel like this poll is hardly worth it considering we've not seen 90% of the cast in the past 2+ years, and many of them had close to zero screentime overall. L&P mentioning Dylan might also just be some Jedi mindtrick. That said, only cast I'd want to see at 0 votes is "Ava Myers and her "lodgers"", other than that I don't really care much about the results. :giggle:
 

lockerxx

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After 1,5 years, let's check your favorite characters again. Will Dylan stay number one or if someone else takes his place?
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nice another poll :rolleyes: .
edit:who is winning?
 
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tonystark7587

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There's a bug, after the shower with Ellie where she masturbate in front of Sophia, it jumped to the latest event with Sofia and Dylan at the hair salon before the car discussion.
can you post the link to all fan made in the last attachment?
In the gallery there are soo many events which i missed, revenge, neil deal, universe
 

Zacko man

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After 1,5 years, let's check your favorite characters again. Will Dylan stay number one or if someone else takes his place?
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I think Dylan may drop from 1st place to 2nd place in this poll. Because, We already know very well what the reason is.:unsure:
 

SubtleHustle

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He who pays the piper calls the tune.
I prefer the live shows and buying the t-shirts.

Agree with your points, what I don't understand is why we only see the same 500ish drop and resub every month. Shouldn't more people be smart enough to cancel for several consecutive months(or years "big brain move") and sub that one month when there is an update to try? I bet if more people unsubbed during the nonupdate months in comparison to the months with a new update he/she would change the frequency of updates. Maybe a 50% drop in $$$ on the months where he didn't release a damn thing would do it.
 
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After 1,5 years, let's check your favorite characters again. Will Dylan stay number one or if someone else takes his place?
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Does it make any difference? will he dedicate more to the chose one? I can't see a reason now to do it other than wast time and way includes characters which will never come back :WutFace:to the game wtf it doesn't make sense, he's lost on the game for sure, I think he need to play his own game to study the game and it's storyline before continue to prevent future mistakes, he has such a good artwork but he is going to a complicate and confuse path and which is killing the game in my opinion, if he want to make a Dylan's game go on but don't make of this AMAW a Dylan's game it's just weird, I let it pass the first time but now is just to much we are having more Dylan than Sophia the game became "Son and Mother" L&P just forget to change the title :KEK:
 
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