VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[Orimal]

Have you ever read his Patreon Page? You should read to get clarity. It might help you understand his "realistic" concept.

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In my opinion none of the AVN game renders are real, except those that use real life pictures
BTW
Then she went to take sexy photos for money.
Both the family's education and the family's financial situation are inconceivable to her to take those photos for money, only to say that it was a lie she lied to her son. She may be born from an incestuous family, perhaps she has long been having sex with her own father, she is not a clean woman, she has been acting, she should be a complete slut from the beginning to the end

 

[Brazzoth]

can you plz tell me after which event the first jump from part1 to last scene of part 2?

After the Sauna event, when Sophia say goodbye to Vicky and her boyfriend, it jump directly to Sophia talking to Liam in the evening before going to bath

Just click in the gallery on the sauna event I think it does it too from there

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

View attachment 2597542 Then she went to take sexy photos for money.

I had a conversation about this and the photo shoot with him. Because I didn't know why she would need the money if her family were wealthy, then he came up with the bazaar reasoning to define wealth. But he said we would understand why in Part II, but based on previous plots, the only thing two things I can come up with are Sophia was pregnant with Ellie, or she helped Liam pay off a gambling debt.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Both the family's education and the family's financial situation are inconceivable to her to take those photos for money, only to say that it was a lie she lied to her son. She may be born from an incestuous family, perhaps she has long been having sex with her own father, she is not a clean woman, she has been acting, she should be a complete slut from the beginning to the end

That is the thing I don't know how it plays into how she advances with Dylan in their arc. The "Sex-Ed" theme is used to promote their arc, but most of it doesn't make any sense. If she was born into an incestuous family, then why did she make that comment on the couch? Plus if she was acting, the way the story started from the beginning doesn't make sense at all.

 

[Orimal]

I had a conversation about this and the photo shoot with him. Because I didn't know why she would need the money if her family were wealthy, then he came up with the bazaar reasoning to define wealth. But he said we would understand why in Part II, but based on previous plots, the only thing two things I can come up with are Sophia was pregnant with Ellie, or she helped Liam pay off a gambling debt.

In my opinion the game's characters have appeared distorted, as if incompetent writers in order to continue the story, fabricate some of the character does not belong to the character's previous behavior motivation, in some launched several seasons of the American drama always have this problem. Finally you will see that only the first three seasons are rated high, the more you get to the back the worse it gets.

 

[Orimal]

That is the thing I don't know how it plays into how she advances with Dylan in their arc. The "Sex-Ed" theme is used to promote their arc, but most of it doesn't make any sense. If she was born into an incestuous family, then why did she make that comment on the couch? Plus if she was acting, the way the story started from the beginning doesn't make sense at all.

Yes, it has lost its meaning. I need other games to replace AWAM in my heart, other milf to replace Sophia. Perhaps this is the brilliance of BADIK, it is not only erotic and touching, family, friendship, etc., these above the pornographic and vulgar content. I hope there is a game with a beautiful milf can bring these.

 

[tofhdns]

I had a conversation about this and the photo shoot with him. Because I didn't know why she would need the money if her family were wealthy, then he came up with the bazaar reasoning to define wealth. But he said we would understand why in Part II, but based on previous plots, the only thing two things I can come up with are Sophia was pregnant with Ellie, or she helped Liam pay off a gambling debt.

Realistically speaking, a single photo shoot in a magazine where amateur models are not famous can't pay off gambling debts or solve childbirth costs.

Realistically speaking, Sofia should have had a modeling career for a long time and magazines should have been sold for many years.

Sofia's modeling career could not be a secret if she did.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Realistically speaking, a single photo shoot in a magazine where amateur models are not famous can't pay off gambling debts or solve childbirth costs.

Realistically speaking, Sofia should have had a modeling career for a long time and magazines should have been sold for many years.

Sofia's modeling career could not be a secret if she did.

Realistically speaking, How did Dylan determine that Sophia had a modeling background after one photoshoot with him in the backyard during the bikini event that prompted Dylan to look her up on the internet and explore the "Deep Dark Web" about her past?

 

[tofhdns]

In my opinion the game's characters have appeared distorted, as if incompetent writers in order to continue the story, fabricate some of the character does not belong to the character's previous behavior motivation, in some launched several seasons of the American drama always have this problem. Finally you will see that only the first three seasons are rated high, the more you get to the back the worse it gets.

The beginning is easy.
But the endings often fail.

Since his first year, he has been criticized for delaying the story and being dull in content, and has announced that he will revise and develop the plan.

But he kept delaying the story and eventually everything got twisted.

He was able to finish the game in five years, as he said earlier.

But his bad habits wasted a lot of time and failed to find a breakthrough, and the way he found it was to dirty and destroy Sofia's past.

Nevertheless, he failed to move forward, delaying the story again and making the scene flat.

In this update, I think Sofia's exposure of part of her swimsuit in front of Harris is a service scene to appease sponsors.

It didn't help with the story and didn't satisfy the sponsors.

LP came up with Sophia and Dylan's bathtub scene to develop the story, but what he showed is that Dylan sees Sofia as a woman.

But all the players knew that Dylan was looking at Sofia as a woman even without the bathtub scene.

It was just a waste of rendering.

In addition, he lost his concentration over the six-year period, a number of setting errors were found, and animation quality was also reduced.

Dylan outside the animation and Dylan in the animation are different, and Dylan in the Airplane and Dylan in the bathtub are different.

I felt like he wanted to end this game playing this update.
Unless he ignored the level of the players...

But my feeling is that he doesn't know how.

 

[tofhdns]

Realistically speaking, How did Dylan determine that Sophia had a modeling background after one photoshoot with him in the backyard during the bikini event that prompted Dylan to look her up on the internet and explore the "Deep Dark Web" about her past?

I have consistently criticised that.

It was an unreasonable setting.

 

[Turret]

Realistically speaking, How did Dylan determine that Sophia had a modeling background after one photoshoot with him in the backyard during the bikini event that prompted Dylan to look her up on the internet and explore the "Deep Dark Web" about her past?

That is actually possible to see if someone has a model background after one photoshooting, BUT that would mean here that Sophia would have modelled quite a time. Because you cannot get both!
Either Sophia had quite a modelling career, so her experience can show with just one occation or neither Dylan nor anybody else could see it if all she had were one, two measly shots!

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

That is actually possible to see if someone has a model background after one photoshooting, BUT that would mean here that Sophia would have modelled quite a time. Because you cannot get both!
Either Sophia had quite a modelling career, so her experience can show with just one occation or neither Dylan nor anybody else could see it if all she had were one, two measly shots!

But the story being told is she didn't have a modeling career, only offers. So how did he know to search the "Deep Dark Web." I do not doubt that you can look up someone's modeling career, but in this case, Dylan had no experience with models, only a keen eye like Liam, yet he knew she had a background because of her poses and one amateur shoot with her.

 

[tofhdns]

That is actually possible to see if someone has a model background after one photoshooting, BUT that would mean here that Sophia would have modelled quite a time. Because you cannot get both!
Either Sophia had quite a modelling career, so her experience can show with just one occation or neither Dylan nor anybody else could see it if all she had were one, two measly shots!

Sophia said she had no modeling experience and it came out that way in the narration.

Also, at that point, Sophia was only complying with Dylan's request.

Dylan is right to be unable to infer Sofia's modeling career.

 

[Turret]

But the story being told is she didn't have a modeling career, only offers. So how did he know to search the "Deep Dark Web." I do not doubt that you can look up someone's modeling career, but in this case, Dylan had no experience with models, only a keen eye like Liam, yet he knew she had a background because of her poses and one amateur shoot with her.

Exactly, here is a logic bug, as I hinted at in my post. If Sophia had enough experience to show at a single bikini shot, she must have modelled quite a lot earlier.
Since we are told in game she had not a model career, just a couple shots, no one, neither Dylan nor (the late) Karl Lagerfeld could see experience Sophia did not have.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Exactly, here is a logic bug, as I hinted at in my post. If Sophia had enough experience to show at a single bikini shot, she must have modelled quite a lot earlier.
Since we are told in game she had not a model career, just a couple shots, no one, neither Dylan nor (the late) Karl Lagerfeld could see experience Sophia did not have.

I don't know where he is going with this story. If it turns out that she has more modeling shoots than this one, then he just added another lie to the barrier on top of the Liam lie. Honestly, I don't even know why this modeling shoot was included. The only thing it was used for was to touch her breast. But now that Dylan knows Liam took the photos, Does that open up the option for nipple sucking or fingering now in Part II? This means you don't need "Sex-Ed" anymore because now it is "deception."

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

no sex, no oral, no handjob, no footjob.

The lines are childish, the settings are broken, the immersion is broken, and the animation quality is also bad.

It's not good.

I agree that animations were poor - especially considered the hype around them and how long it took to create. Also, compared to progress made by other creators, even Mr. Dots.

 

[Turret]

I don't know where he is going with this story. If it turns out that she has more modeling shoots than this one, then he just added another lie to the barrier on top of the Liam lie.

Neither do I. The Liam lie already was as necessary as a bout of plague or Cholera and putting another possible lie on top of it is practically senseless. It just let´s the story derail - again!

 

[tofhdns]

Whatever, that is what the average mom+corruption+incest is attracting. But in the middle of this shit, AWAM was different (Vaulihorn started different also but it just turned onto non-sense saussage fest 2.0). It was the oasis in the desert. It was the light shining through the clouds. That is why it somehow hurts when it turns into shity writing and a rush into hotdog fest 3.0.

I can't agree with this sentence.

Rather, AWAM was like a children's prank.

LP placed sex at the end and that means LP has a fantasy about sex or believes that sex is at the end of every relationship.

So I suspected LP had no sex experience or no dating experience.

He established their relationship by directing Dylan and Ellie's bickering in the car, but later Ellie suddenly tolerated Dylan's pervert gaze.

He had Dylan look at Sofia's breast in the dressing room, but she hid it again in the bikini scene and revealed it again in the bathtub scene.

Sofia allowed Dylan to see her as a woman in the car, but she had amnesia and came out of the bathtub and repeated it again.

LP is as young as his age and no more experienced than his age.

There's so much he doesn't know.

 

[palmtrees89]

That is the thing I don't know how it plays into how she advances with Dylan in their arc. The "Sex-Ed" theme is used to promote their arc, but most of it doesn't make any sense. If she was born into an incestuous family, then why did she make that comment on the couch? Plus if she was acting, the way the story started from the beginning doesn't make sense at all.

Realistically speaking, How did Dylan determine that Sophia had a modeling background after one photoshoot with him in the backyard during the bikini event that prompted Dylan to look her up on the internet and explore the "Deep Dark Web" about her past?

Towards the end of PD12, the voices who asked for more sexual content had become increasingly louder, to a point where L&P said that part02 is getting hotter, posting his "sex with important characters" schedule and so on. I think that's about it.

The story is not fully written or planned out, because if that was the case we would not be seeing the absolute garbage story that's unfolding in part02 so far. PD13 has been nothing but sexual encounter after sexual encounter with every single update. With plot holes, with nonsense dialogue, completely disjointed events and a Sophia who behaves like an absolute idiot. She's done it before with the introduction of the 2nd sidejob for example, but it's ramping like crazy.

He's catering to his supporters, but in the typical L&P fashion. Enough so people keep paying, but not too much either so to satisfy their cravings fully, possibly resulting in many dropping the game because it's moving in less than slow-motion. In a way, L&P is a drug dealer of VN's.

The current poll shows clearly what kind of audience this project attracts mostly, and L&P is once again catering to those results. All the top voted characters are either children or teenagers. That speaks for itself if you ask me. Just looking at the current update for example, L&P purposefully left Dylan's age out unanswered with this absolute ridiculous "I'm turning 1X" line. This is not loli or shota, it's straight up content involving children. That's the kind of people L&P caters to. That, in my opinion, goes way beyond a fetish at this point.

When ~2 years ago the players still had the option to opt-out of such content because other routes would still get something to play around with, now there is simply nothing. You can obviously still do it, but then what are the players left with? Many people here are getting roughly 2mins of gameplay for the entirety of PD13 because there's nothing but children involved.

 

[Sturbuck]

Congrats to Dev..did a great job this time..keep up with it..