VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[Radoslaw Wolf]

karleston, aren't you too fast?

were you waiting for me?

Facepalm first, think later?

 

[qashqai3047]

This fucking update is taking long enough time, what the fuck this motherfucking cunt is doing

 

[tofhdns]

Facepalm first, think later?

He was so fast that I doubted if he had read.

 

[Old Dog]

The characters in this game, there are things that make them undefinable.

Sophia is smart but sometimes naive, protecting herself like a nun, but opening up too easily. Moreover, while she advises Dylan to find a girlfriend, she also accepts the role of Dylan's sexual partner.
She mocks her husband when he talks about swapping but she imagines sexual fantasies with Andy.

Dylan appears shy, but he leads the nightlife and is tempted by many women, but he also harbors a fear of women.

Aiden and Morello are quite violent, but quite gentlemen.

Liam achieved success by working diligently for his family, but jeopardized their well-being through gambling. He plays basketball with his son, but often ignores son and enjoy his own time. Marrying Sophia due to her pregnancy, but he proves disloyal because he's discussing swapping and he's spying on Cathy, even running away from a clothing store.

He's not dependent on his wife bacause he ignore her opinions at casino, tell her to send Dylan to martial arts dojo, and go fishing by himself.
Also, while he was conservative with his wife, but he failed to protect Sophia twice in front of the boss, and he even suggested swapping to his wife.

Liam is the same as Dylan, or not. because Dylan gets angry when others see Sophia's body, but at the same time he encourages Sophia to show off her body. Similarly, Liam dislikes people looking at Sophia's body, but he allowed it three times.

I don't think if the characters are well made.

Every character seems to be looking out for themselfs and to hell with consequences.
Liam did encourage Sophia to look sexy as he said before the prison visit"people can look but not touch" but now when the boss came to visit he was upset that his boss was looking at Sophia,maybe it was Sophias flirting with him.
My thought is that if Liam was unhappy whith the way Sophia behaves with his boss how will he cope when his wife fucks Andy?
It all may seem great in fantasy but happen in real life could be very different for the Parkers

 

[Old Dog]

If I remember correctly the clothes store and Liam runing away was when Liam was supposed to be cheating on Sophia but the dev changed his mind on this.

 

[Deleted member 3218369]

Best scene in the entire game

 

[tofhdns]

Every character seems to be looking out for themselfs and to hell with consequences.
Liam did encourage Sophia to look sexy as he said before the prison visit"people can look but not touch" but now when the boss came to visit he was upset that his boss was looking at Sophia,maybe it was Sophias flirting with him.
My thought is that if Liam was unhappy whith the way Sophia behaves with his boss how will he cope when his wife fucks Andy?
It all may seem great in fantasy but happen in real life could be very different for the Parkers

I don't know because Sophia did it to punish Liam and Liam felt bad about Sophia's behavior.

Besides, it was after Liam told her about swapping that Harris visited house.

I know people have a hard time discussing 'consistency or reality', so I try to avoid using the word as much as possible, but when 'consistency or reality' breaks down, reasoning becomes impossible. like this.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

If I remember correctly the clothes store and Liam runing away was when Liam was supposed to be cheating on Sophia but the dev changed his mind on this.

IMO that would have flowed better on the filth side if Liam was cheating, as that would have represented a rift in their marriage instead of what he's trying to write now. The scene with Cathy in the wedding shop hinted that she was into Liam.

GW path - Swinging or faithful.
Filthy path - Liam and Sophia cheat on each other as their marriage drifts apart.

 

[Old Dog]

I don't know because Sophia did it to punish Liam and Liam felt bad about Sophia's behavior.

Besides, it was after Liam told her about swapping that Harris visited house.

I know people have a hard time discussing 'consistency or reality', so I try to avoid using the word as much as possible, but when 'consistency or reality' breaks down, reasoning becomes impossible. like this.

Punish him for inviting the boss round to watch a match I wonder what punishment Liam will dish out to his cheating wife?

 

[Old Dog]

IMO that would have flowed better on the filth side if Liam was cheating, as that would have represented a rift in their marriage instead of what he's trying to write now. The scene with Cathy in the wedding shop hinted that she was into Liam.

GW path - Swinging or faithful.
Filthy path - Liam and Sophia cheat on each other as their marriage drifts apart.

It was hinted that something may of happened between them,Liam/Sophia,Andy.Cathy back in there college days when they visited them but it was very vague.

 

[hzjujk]

Yes that the script is bad when the dev injects a storyline just to progress an event when it has been stated that Sophia has never modelled before but later we learn that she has and this is makes the sstoryline disjointed and unable to run smoothly.
But if you think that the script is great fair enough I will say no more.

"Why badly written? Actually it's awesome...."

Well, this statement can be misunderstood somewhat - if you want. But it should be understood in the context of the following sentence.

I do not imagine that you attach any importance to my posts or remember them, but I have repeatedly criticized the writing and structure of the story in posts.
And I don't think the script is "great" either.
However, that doesn't stop me from finding individual aspects and ideas in this script enjoyable, then articulating and discussing that positive opinion and my take on it.

And you are welcome to stifle the discussion with sweeping judgments. We both seem old enough to be able to deal with each other's point of view.

 

[Old Dog]

"Why badly written? Actually it's awesome...."

Well, this statement can be misunderstood somewhat - if you want. But it should be understood in the context of the following sentence.

I do not imagine that you attach any importance to my posts or remember them, but I have repeatedly criticized the writing and structure of the story in posts.
And I don't think the script is "great" either.
However, that doesn't stop me from finding individual aspects and ideas in this script enjoyable, then articulating and discussing that positive opinion and my take on it.

And you are welcome to stifle the discussion with sweeping judgments. We both seem old enough to be able to deal with each other's point of view.

There are aspects of this game that are very good but script wise not so much and as I have said before"enjoy the game but leave your brain at home".
Maybe I am being too critical of this game but prt 1 even with all its fault was enjoyable but this is now a different game from what is once was and this makes me.
I do remember some of your posts and at times we have agreed with one another but we have always been polite with each other even when we don't agree.

 

[Undertaker1987]

Nobody works for him, bud. Nobody's worthy. Those he'd consider dare to want money in return, the rest are all "morons".
And that's the core problem with this narcissistic egomaniac.

Oh

 

[XaGnard]

There are aspects of this game that are very good but script wise not so much and as I have said before"enjoy the game but leave your brain at home".
Maybe I am being too critical of this game but prt 1 even with all its fault was enjoyable but this is now a different game from what is once was and this makes me.
I do remember some of your posts and at times we have agreed with one another but we have always been polite with each other even when we don't agree.

I think it's important that we all keep it fair, and not expect too much from a porn game. Even with some really major oddities (like Aiden, and the gangster scene with the pistol, etc.), AWAM story is still much better than almost all other games here. Especially considering the core characters (like Dylan, Ellie, Sam, Patrica, etc.), L&P has done a good job of using the slow burn to portray characteristics and motivation not only of Sophia, but also the people she interacts with most. Now the question remains whether L&P will also succeed in bringing these characters through a progression in an exciting and comprehensible way. So far I like L&P's approach in this respect (apart from some side stories and Aiden). At the same time, it has to be said that the story is just beginning to unfold and the difficult part is yet to come.

Perhaps it makes sense to illustrate this with a concrete example. I played through "HerDesire" as an example for a game with similar setting as AWAM, and here I could see quite clearly how big the differences in quality really is (not only in terms of graphics). HerDesire virtually rushes through the story and loses all the excitement and possible entanglements that would make up a good story. An example of this is Parker, who in this game is the equivalent to Dylan, and in one scene kisses his mother while her husband interrupts them without noticing anything. At first glance, the whole event sounds like it could have been written by L&P (who also prefers this kind of interruption). But since all the characters in this game go along with everything at every opportunity, without even the slightest doubt, it seems downright artificial that in this situation, the mother would have to keep something secret. The game is so shallow that it doesn't even allow for any excitement. It is more or less a corruption story without any corruption and characteers who all are emotionless. If you compare AWAM with something like this, which is still above the average of what others deliver here, it becomes clear pretty quickly how good AWAM is (at least fo far).

 

[Tennyson@]

People's really coming out to a porn game expecting morals,logic , realism and all

Even movies containing real actors doesn't have much logic in it

It's a game of 3d rendered character's with 18+ content, generally for fap and sexual fantasies treat it like one

If you want logical stories go read books and visual novels
Ofcourse any artist who has a popular series or game going on will try to prolong the main content for long to earn money , no idiot will just give you main course at starting , he knows everyone is waiting for it and will keep coming even after 100s of bait

Even pornhwa artists do the same

Don't come here with your bullshits that story is boring, it's taking too long and all
He is doing everything right from a creator's point and the ones paying for it are not complaining that much for Sophia sex scenes

It's a porn game , "PORN GAME"

 

[Old Dog]

Funny post, it me a chuckle.

 

[Notretsam]

There are aspects of this game that are very good but script wise not so much and as I have said before"enjoy the game but leave your brain at home".
Maybe I am being too critical of this game but prt 1 even with all its fault was enjoyable but this is now a different game from what is once was and this makes me.
I do remember some of your posts and at times we have agreed with one another but we have always been polite with each other even when we don't agree.

Dialogue is too wordy, a lot of the time I get bored reading it and click through fast.

I do think now the most significant thing L&P could do to speed up updates is cut down the dialogue in scenes and he wouldn't have to create so many renders then. He really doesn't need as much dialogue to explain what is going on in scenes and therefore it would cut down the amount of renders needed. He seems to match renders to specific dialogue which I understand and agree with him doing, but he has so much dialogue that it then increases renders totals and increases production time.

 

[roro]

Facepalm first, think later?

There are many reasons to facepalm his (tofhdns) posts. If he were a reasonable guy and wouldn't call stupid to others who has different views, maybe I would have explained it in detail.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

There are many reasons to facepalm his (tofhdns) posts. If he were a reasonable guy and wouldn't call stupid to others who has different views, maybe I would have explained it in detail.

Any reason is good for the facepalmer-in-chief

 

[Lord_Xanatos]

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