VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[Old Dog]

It was initially a failure. The first mistake is to link to a certain number of days. And so we see - 6 years in vain and what a finished whore she is within 2 weeks. At the same time, we do not see sex)))

Tad strong to call her a whore since she has only fooled a round so far

 

[tofhdns]

Last two scene didn't happened in game. Is this real

I don't know what the last two scenes you mentioned are, but the images above are all scenes that occurred in the game.

 

[Galaktur]

Tad strong to call her a whore since she has only fooled so far

She's a concrete whore. A real whore. All her actions speak about it. The only limitation is that there is no sex. But this is for the creator of the game. She initially creates a whore out of Sofia. And a lot of options said that Sofia had to fuck with everyone.

 

[Old Dog]

She's a concrete whore. A real whore. All her actions speak about it. The only limitation is that there is no sex. But this is for the creator of the game. She initially creates a whore out of Sofia. And a lot of options said that Sofia had to fuck with everyone.

Sophia"will not fuck with everyone"as you put it as she will not fuck with Neil or Mr Harris or the principal for example.

 

[Night Hacker]

If we now move this to the context of AWAM:
If Sophia starts banging everyone she meets from now on, it would not be realistic, as in the world it established, she is not that kind of woman. In fact, because of the playing days I would say AWAM is already leaving the realm of realism it says it want to keep. The amount of lewd activities she did on Friday is extremely high for someone like her. If the events would have been stretched over a few days, maybe a week, it would have made much more sense.

I disagree. In her world, she is a woman with strong sexual desires which her husband isn't satisfying. She tries to resist tempation to fool around on him, but do not confuse her attempts to resist for what she wants or desires, the two are not the same and over time, as the pressure mounts, she will inevitably give in to her desires if her husband keeps ignoring her needs. Her suddenly having sex like she didn't before is VERY realistic and follows along the story perfectly.

She's resisting her temptations the whole way, but one can only resist for so long before their true feelings they have kept buried within them HAVE to be released. The whole time with her son, she resisted, and you have the CHOICE for her to say no.

In the end, it's just a game. It has a good story to it and I totally understand how she can go so long without fooling around and suddenly feel the need to release, like a boiling pot can only hold in steam for so long.

In the real world this is absolutely proven true, it's why we have so many divorces. People get married and one party refuses sex with the other and then is surprised when they cheat on them.

You're over analyzing this.

 

[Galaktur]

Sophia"will not fuck with everyone"as you put it

Of course it won't. At this rate of updates. This should be waited for 50 years)))

 

[Old Dog]

I disagree. In her world, she is a woman with strong sexual desires which her husband isn't satisfying. She tries to resist tempation to fool around on him, but do not confuse her attempts to resist for what she wants or desires, the two are not the same and over time, as the pressure mounts, she will inevitably give in to her desires if her husband keeps ignoring her needs. Her suddenly having sex like she didn't before is VERY realistic and follows along the story perfectly.

She's resisting her temptations the whole way, but one can only resist for so long before their true feelings they have kept buried within them HAVE to be released. The whole time with her son, she resisted, and you have the CHOICE for her to say no.

In the end, it's just a game. It has a good story to it and I totally understand how she can go so long without fooling around and suddenly feel the need to release, like a boiling pot can only hold in steam for so long.

In the real world this is absolutely proven true, it's why we have so many divorces. People get married and one party refuses sex with the other and then is surprised when they cheat on them.

You're over analyzing this.

I agree mostly with your comments

 

[joelurmel]

Of course they do. But just giving a facepalm is hardly expressing an opinion, especially when they're considered likes.

All I was trying to say anyway was that personally, I think that if there was Sophia/Emma content, it should be the same as say Nathalie's - available on all routes and not restricted to one in particular.

If that really does warrant a facepalm, by all means, explain.

The facepalm doesn't bother me, but the retarded facepalm does and it's an insult

 

[hzjujk]

She's a concrete whore. A real whore. All her actions speak about it. The only limitation is that there is no sex. But this is for the creator of the game. She initially creates a whore out of Sofia. And a lot of options said that Sofia had to fuck with everyone.

I don't understand. You're acting as if the decisions Sophia makes have nothing to do with you. Almost every decision in the last event you made from Dylan's point of view. Hardly any of those decisions could be justified by Sophia's inner monologues. Are you playing a different game? Of course it excites her what is happening. But again and again you can read her thoughts about her doubts. And each time you make the decision to continue.
At the end of the event we have a woman on the verge of a nervous breakdown who can't even stand to be near her son anymore because she feels so ashamed and guilty.
I don't see where you recognize exclusively the whore.

 

[tofhdns]

I feel that the Sam/Sophia and Dyan/Sophia could of gone further than they did and I also feel that L&P is still holding back but he will use flashbacks and imagination from Sophia to try and get past this Like he has already done with Dylan and Sophia's early sex.

When I last saw it (0.185), I also thought that the developer was using flashbacks to find a way out.

However, while playing this (0.190) version, I felt that was not the case.

This developer must have faced a lot of complaints from people and felt the need for a 'bonus image' for them.
So, sex images that were not necessary for the story but that people wanted were added.

The flashbacks from Part 1 played no role in Part 2.
Liam was just being Liam, and the reason Sophia developed a relationship with Dylan was because of Dylan's actions, not because she confessed the past (flashback).

This flashback (0.190) also played no role in advancing the story.

Of course, it was said in some form in the game, but I mean is that it was okay to cut it out.
It was just a 'bonus image'.
(However, regardless of the story, I enjoyed it.)

On a related line.

Handjob were not planned for this update and this may have been a hastily added rendering by this developer. (from 75%:25 to 55%:45%)

This may also have been due to people's dissatisfaction.

As the developer announced, his initial plan was to match Dylan's stride length to Sam's stride length.

But this time Dylan got ahead of Sam.

The reason Dylan and Sophia took off their panties for a short time was because of people's demand, but the reason they put them back on was because of the developer's will.

The reason Sophia did the handjob was because people's demand, but the reason she distorted face was because it reflected the developer's mood.

I've never seen Sophia this upset in this game.

Judging by the scene, there has clearly been progress.
I was surprised.

However, I felt that this developer's thoughts (will) had not changed at all.

So I predict that just as Sam's story is scheduled to retreat, Dylan's story will also retreat.

I became more convinced of this after playing the 0.190 version than when I saw Dylan's schedule.

And whenever people complain, this developer will likely continue to use flashbacks to avoid it, and I don't think that's a good approach.

 

[Old Dog]

When I last saw it (0.185), I also thought that the developer was using flashbacks to find a way out.

However, while playing this (0.190) version, I felt that was not the case.

This developer must have faced a lot of complaints from people and felt the need for a 'bonus image' for them.
So, sex images that were not necessary for the story but that people wanted were added.

The flashbacks from Part 1 played no role in Part 2.
Liam was just being Liam, and the reason Sophia developed a relationship with Dylan was because of Dylan's actions, not because she confessed the past (flashback).

This flashback (0.190) also played no role in advancing the story.

Of course, it was said in some form in the game, but I mean is that it was okay to cut it out.
It was just a 'bonus image'.
(However, regardless of the story, I enjoyed it.)

On a related line.

Handjob were not planned for this update and this may have been a hastily added rendering by this developer. (from 75%:25 to 55%:45%)

This may also have been due to people's dissatisfaction.

As the developer announced, his initial plan was to match Dylan's stride length to Sam's stride length.

But this time Dylan got ahead of Sam.

The reason Dylan and Sophia took off their panties for a short time was because of people's demand, but the reason they put them back on was because of the developer's will.

The reason Sophia did the handjob was because people's demand, but the reason she distorted face was because it reflected the developer's mood.

I've never seen Sophia this upset in this game.

Judging by the scene, there has clearly been progress.
I was surprised.

However, I felt that this developer's thoughts (will) had not changed at all.

So I predict that just as Sam's story is scheduled to retreat, Dylan's story will also retreat.

I became more convinced of this after playing the 0.190 version than when I saw Dylan's schedule.

And whenever people complain, this developer will likely continue to use flashbacks to avoid it, and I don't think that's a good approach.

The demand from his patrons was his own fault as something needed to happen as he had teased/strung out long enough so he did put himself into a corner with limited options left to him.
This Sam V Dylan crap is not needed or wanted,by me at least,but the dev put his foot in it by saying that Dylan will surpass Sam but if you look at both events then there is not that much difference between them.
I had wanted for some time to see deeper emotions off Sophia after her encounters and I did write to L&P about this as I think it casts her in a bad light.

 

[palmtrees89]

Totally agree. As someone pointed out here before, something has radically changed between the parts, as if he got way more disconnected from the project.
He started rushing things story-wise, while slowing down even more on the development front, focusing on Steam, potentially looking for a way out?

It's mostly the change to event-based releases in combination with the fact that the story is not fully written, unlike what he claims on Patreon. If it was fully written (more than a rough outline), event-based releases wouldn't be much of an issue when it comes to storytelling. But, as many people noticed, the story took a nosedive since the beginning of part 02. Every single update in PD13 has been a braindead sexual encounter (without the sex part) and no real in-between anymore.

Anyone who has played part 02 from beginning to end recently knows what I mean. The story just doesn't feel good. Event, cut. Next event, cut. It's more like a bunch of short-stories at this point except for maybe multi-part events, but they still feel disjointed from the rest.

 

[tofhdns]

Sophia"will not fuck with everyone"as you put it as she will not fuck with Neil or Mr Harris or the principal for example.

I was outraged when the 0.185 flashback appeared, saying "this developer turned Sofia into a whore", but this developer will not connect Sofia to many characters.

 

[Galaktur]

I don't understand. You're acting as if the decisions Sophia makes have nothing to do with you. Almost every decision in the last event you made from Dylan's point of view. Hardly any of those decisions could be justified by Sophia's inner monologues. Are you playing a different game? Of course it excites her what is happening. But again and again you can read her thoughts about her doubts. And each time you make the decision to continue.
At the end of the event we have a woman on the verge of a nervous breakdown who can't even stand to be near her son anymore because she feels so ashamed and guilty.
I don't see where you recognize exclusively the whore.

Are you kidding me? No idiot in a porn game will lead a branch of a faithful wife. Secondly, all her actions and actions in the game directly indicate that she is a whore. If she wasn't a whore, then there wouldn't be any branches at all. If she's not a whore, then she has no place in a porn game.

 

[Old Dog]

It's mostly the change to event-based releases in combination with the fact that the story is not fully written, unlike what he claims on Patreon. If it was fully written (more than a rough outline), event-based releases wouldn't be much of an issue when it comes to storytelling. But, as many people noticed, the story took a nosedive since the beginning of part 02. Every single update in PD13 has been a braindead sexual encounter (without the sex part) and no real in-between anymore.

Anyone who has played part 02 from beginning to end recently knows what I mean. The story just doesn't feel good. Event, cut. Next event, cut. It's more like a bunch of short-stories at this point except for maybe multi-part events, but they still feel disjointed from the rest.

It also does not help when he keeps on adding stuff to the event even though she has said that she has never modelled before.

 

[Old Dog]

Are you kidding me? No idiot in a porn game will lead a branch of a faithful wife. Secondly, all her actions and actions in the game directly indicate that she is a whore. If she wasn't a whore, then there wouldn't be any branches at all. If she's not a whore, then she has no place in a porn game.

So you play the GW route where Sophia is faithful to Liam but she is still a whore?

 

[Galaktur]

I was outraged when the 0.185 flashback appeared, saying "this developer turned Sofia into a whore", but this developer will not connect Sofia to many characters.

she didn't turn her, Sofia according to the plot is a whore, from the very beginning of the game.

 

[Galaktur]

So you play the GW route where Sophia is faithful to Liam but she is still a whore?

From the very beginning of the game, the movers event, where she behaves not only like a finished whore, but also directs her daughter there. Fools of course can lead the course of a faithful wife, but this is not even stupidity, this is for stupid sheep.

 

[Galaktur]

Her daughter walked in on them and Sophia never guided her and she also showed them her wedding ring.
But I guess you are one of those people who think that the Jen sex was consentual sex?

replay this event.. maybe then you will begin to understand that the path of a whore was originally laid there.

 

[tofhdns]

From the very beginning of the game, the movers event, where she behaves not only like a finished whore, but also directs her daughter there. Fools of course can lead the course of a faithful wife, but this is not even stupidity, this is for stupid sheep.

I thought you meant a flashback when you said "from the very beginning of the game."

At the mover event at the beginning of the play, Sophia was only kind and did not act like a prostitute.

Sophia was displeased and uncomfortable.
However, she was just trying to be kind.