VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[Old Dog]

Ain't he traditionally post-release vacationing?

I have been talking to him over the past couple of days

 

[ihl86]

I disagree. In her world, she is a woman with strong sexual desires which her husband isn't satisfying. She tries to resist tempation to fool around on him, but do not confuse her attempts to resist for what she wants or desires, the two are not the same and over time, as the pressure mounts, she will inevitably give in to her desires if her husband keeps ignoring her needs. Her suddenly having sex like she didn't before is VERY realistic and follows along the story perfectly.

She's resisting her temptations the whole way, but one can only resist for so long before their true feelings they have kept buried within them HAVE to be released. The whole time with her son, she resisted, and you have the CHOICE for her to say no.

In the end, it's just a game. It has a good story to it and I totally understand how she can go so long without fooling around and suddenly feel the need to release, like a boiling pot can only hold in steam for so long.

In the real world this is absolutely proven true, it's why we have so many divorces. People get married and one party refuses sex with the other and then is surprised when they cheat on them.

You're over analyzing this.

I am not saying that it is not realistic that at some point Sophia could/would snap and have sex with someone. (Although that someone being a kid, Sam, Zac, not to even mention Dylan is much less realistic -but let's not diverge).
I am simply saying that even once that holding back comes down, a real world person would choose someone and have sex with them. If/when they get bored with that person they could choose another. Very few people sleep around with almost everyone that expresses interest all at once. With one today, with another tomorrow or maybe in the evening, go back to the first one the next day. Than with a woman, then another woman, because why not and so on.
Of course, in the end, this is the end goal of the game: "corrupting" Sophia so she does have various sexual activities with a lot of people, but it's a fine line from at least somewhat realistic to total fuck-fest like so many similar games (The one with Myriam's life or how it's called, the one with the mystery of Vaulihorn or something similar and so on).

And this is just to clarify, of course people gets divorces, people cheat. I have known people in real life that have cheated/are cheating for different reasons. I have known people in open policy marriages. none of the women fuck guys left and right. while they do have a lot of sex themselves, they are quite selective with who they fuck, and pretty constant. It is usually the guys that can't resist to jump from woman to woman.

I don't think I am over analyzing anything. I know it is just a game, at the moment I am enjoying the content it provide, in spite of the slow development speed. If I won't enjoy it in the future, I can skip it (like I don't even touch the Myriam one).
It's just when people say things like: in the real world she would have already done this and that, a real woman would not have denied herself if Dylan was sucking her boobs, she would have fucked him and so on I can't just get past it. It feels like these people have seen/played too much porn content and have a distorted view of reality.

 

[kimber700]

I asked some questions to L&P and got answered.

1. In the day 15, is there a chance to have Sophia a date with Dylan again while Liam watches a football game with Mr. Harris?
2. As a result of Sophia/Dylan part 1 and 2 incident, will Dylan keep begging Sophia a kiss, a handjob, a date, or else at home?
3. Did anyone (possibly Sam) witness Sophia and Dylan?
4. Will Sophia act like Sam's secret girl friend if they are together and apart from the others?

 

[Night Hacker]

I am not saying that it is not realistic that at some point Sophia could/would snap and have sex with someone. (Although that someone being a kid, Sam, Zac, not to even mention Dylan is much less realistic -but let's not diverge).
I am simply saying that even once that holding back comes down, a real world person would choose someone and have sex with them. If/when they get bored with that person they could choose another. Very few people sleep around with almost everyone that expresses interest all at once. With one today, with another tomorrow or maybe in the evening, go back to the first one the next day. Than with a woman, then another woman, because why not and so on.
Of course, in the end, this is the end goal of the game: "corrupting" Sophia so she does have various sexual activities with a lot of people, but it's a fine line from at least somewhat realistic to total fuck-fest like so many similar games (The one with Myriam's life or how it's called, the one with the mystery of Vaulihorn or something similar and so on).

And this is just to clarify, of course people gets divorces, people cheat. I have known people in real life that have cheated/are cheating for different reasons. I have known people in open policy marriages. none of the women fuck guys left and right. while they do have a lot of sex themselves, they are quite selective with who they fuck, and pretty constant. It is usually the guys that can't resist to jump from woman to woman.

I don't think I am over analyzing anything. I know it is just a game, at the moment I am enjoying the content it provide, in spite of the slow development speed. If I won't enjoy it in the future, I can skip it (like I don't even touch the Myriam one).
It's just when people say things like: in the real world she would have already done this and that, a real woman would not have denied herself if Dylan was sucking her boobs, she would have fucked him and so on I can't just get past it. It feels like these people have seen/played too much porn content and have a distorted view of reality.

Okay, THIS... IS... FICTION... if it bothers you so much... QUIT PLAYING THE DAMN THING!!! Man... there you go on about REALISM again... it's a fucking PORN GAME... it's not REAL and probably would never BE REAL, it's why most people play the things. I would hate to see your reaction to Star Wars, you probably think the force is real, or complain because it isn't!

Man, it's time I exited this thread I think. Wow... unreal... or real... not sure anymore.

 

[AlfredBundy4]

I asked some questions to L&P and got answered.

1. In the day 15, is there a chance to have Sophia a date with Dylan again while Liam watches a football game with Mr. Harris?
2. As a result of Sophia/Dylan part 1 and 2 incident, will Dylan keep begging Sophia a kiss, a handjob, a date, or else at home?
3. Did anyone (possibly Sam) witness Sophia and Dylan?
4. Will Sophia act like Sam's secret girl friend if they are together and apart from the others?

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Who didn't like blackmail?! I don't think it's that as much as the nonsense of the blackmail itself. A teen boy is the head of an actual gang of adult thugs is slow-playing this dime MILF that will clearly do just about anything to save her son. Yet, he just does shit like "lift your shirt with your bra on" and "don't wear panties".

If done in a way that made any sense at all it would probably go over better.

 

[ihl86]

Okay, THIS... IS... FICTION... if it bothers you so much... QUIT PLAYING THE DAMN THING!!! Man... there you go on about REALISM again... it's a fucking PORN GAME... it's not REAL and probably would never BE REAL, it's why most people play the things. I would hate to see your reaction to Star Wars, you probably think the force is real, or complain because it isn't!

I think you are reading what I am writing but you are not understanding me.
this is from my post that you just quoted:

I know it is just a game, at the moment I am enjoying the content it provide, in spite of the slow development speed. If I won't enjoy it in the future, I can skip it

Telling me what I already know and wrote doesn't make a good basis for any kind of discussion. If you want I can refer you to materials that allow you to be a better communicator. It would be very beneficial to you in real life as well, I can promise you that. It involves making sure, at first, that you understood what the person you are communicating with is saying. If argument is on your mind, when processing, in our case what I wrote, you will not understand my point, you will only see the differences. Making anyone understand you means you first have to understand them, so you have a common point from where to start.

Regarding your Star Wards point, again I am referring you with things I have already written, in response to you:

You don't need a story for realism, in the sense, this is how the real world is. But a good story, needs within the rules it establishes to be realistic and believable. This is the basis for any story, fantasy, sci-fi.
Porn, I think everybody reads or plays for different purposes.

"You don't need a story for realism, in the sense, this is how the real world is." = A story doesn't have to respect real world rules. In that sense, a story doesn't need realism. But only in that sense.

The whole point was if we need realism, not if we need a story . And I was at least trying to express that what makes a story realistic, isn't if the real world is following the rules of the story. What makes a story realistic is if it follows it's own rules.
For example, I think Lord of the Rings is realistic. It follows the rules it establishes within its own world. If Frodo could fight and kill anyone and anything in it's path towards Mount Doom, that would not have been realistic. As he was an inexperienced hobbit with no battle experience and no special powers.
Does that mean anyone expects elves or orc or anything else from the books to be present in the real world? No.

Just like in my Lord of the Rings example, in Star Wars, the force is defined and is realistic within the bounds of the universe. If all the star troopers started using the force I think we could both agree it would not be realistic, or entertaining.

I don't mind responding, but going in circles is not a fun way to spend time. I am hoping this time, when you read what I wrote you will try to understand my point of view.

 

[Old Dog]

I asked some questions to L&P and got answered.

1. In the day 15, is there a chance to have Sophia a date with Dylan again while Liam watches a football game with Mr. Harris?
2. As a result of Sophia/Dylan part 1 and 2 incident, will Dylan keep begging Sophia a kiss, a handjob, a date, or else at home?
3. Did anyone (possibly Sam) witness Sophia and Dylan?
4. Will Sophia act like Sam's secret girl friend if they are together and apart from the others?

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I am surprised that people don't like the blackmailing stuff and if Sam/Sophia don't act like boyfriend/girlfriend when they are alone together then what was the point of it?Or am I missing something here?

 

[Talcum Powder]

I conitnue to despair at the frequency our developer completely misses an opportunity to take full advantage of the situations he's able to create. For example, considering Sophia's vocation, was this not THE PERFECT opportunity to give us a truly meaningful choice:

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C'mon all you haters and trolls and fans and faithful, be honest and tell me that wouldn't have been fucking epic.

 

[kimber700]

I am surprised that people don't like the blackmailing stuff and if Sam/Sophia don't act like boyfriend/girlfriend when they are alone together what was the point of it?Or am I missing something here?

I personally think Sam does not blackmail Sophia if he saw them. I expect a softcore mom-son couple dating like Amber-Sam/Dylan and Sophia-Dylan/Sam.

 

[Old Dog]

I personally think Sam does not blackmail Sophia if he saw them. I expect a softcore mom-son couple dating like Amber-Sam/Dylan and Sophia-Dylan/Sam.

I never meant that Sam would blackmail Sophia but I thought that at least in private they would act like boyfriend/girlfriend.

 

[hu lover]

I never meant that Sam would blackmail Sophia but I thought that at least in private they would act like boyfriend/gorlfriend

I didn't know this either.
Some VN games might surprise you sometimes.

 

[Dynamite20]

do we know what character the next update will focus? Did LP confirm that it is Sophias daughter next Update? Thanks!

 

[Old Dog]

I conitnue to despair at the frequency our developer completely misses an opportunity to take full advantage of the situations he's able to create. For example, considering Sophia's vocation, was this not THE PERFECT opportunity to give us a truly meaningful choice:

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C'mon all you haters and trolls and fans and faithful, be honest and tell me that wouldn't have been fucking epic.

Nope because L&P is still holding back for some reason and even a little something extra with either Sam/Sophia or Dylan/Sophia or both would not of pushed it much further.
I also think that L&P was trying to show how much of an impact this act had on Sophia and the sight of her sons cum on her shocked her to the core but he never quite pulled it off with the text or the render.
Besides Sophia does not like oral cream pies so I doubt that she likes the taste of it

 

[Talcum Powder]

Nope because L&P is still holding back for some reason and even a little something extra with either Sam/Sophia or Dylan/Sophia or both would not of pushed it much further.
Besides Sophia does not like oral cream pies so I doubt that she likes the taste of it

I think the fact that she doesn't like Liam's spunk makes this choice (or at least her considering it) so much more interesting - what if she's curious about whether it's just Liam and that she might like someone else's?

I'm not even sure we should be presented the choice and see the result, I just think it would have been amazing if Sophia, being a literature teacher, had that idea bounce through her mind, especially in the context and the gravity of what Hamlet is considering with his question.

 

[joelurmel]

Everyone here has the right to express an opinion and we've had some great discussions on this thread with people who hold different points of view.

The repeated use of facepalms invites No discussion.

If someone facepalms a post making 5 different points, what exactly is the facepalm for? Is it for the entire post, points 1, 3 and 5 or some other permutation?

A facepalm is an emote only - Not an opinion because there has been no explicit statement for, against, in partial agreement with... etc.

I see a facepalm as the language of the lazy.

It is too often a tool someone uses to disagree with the discussion they cannot hope to counter with logic or facts.

Discussions have value, whether they result in agreement or end in an 'agree to disagree'; facepalms hold little value to/for me.

Cheers!!

facepalm is an emote only, ok. But retarded facepalmer is an insult!

 

[Old Dog]

I think the fact that she doesn't like Liam's spunk makes this choice (or at least her considering it) so much more interesting - what if she's curious about whether it's just Liam and that she might like someone else's?

I'm not even sure we should be presented the choice and see the result, I just think it would have been amazing if Sophia, being a literature teacher, had that idea bounce through her mind, especially in the context and the gravity of what Hamlet is considering with his question.

I also think that if Sophia had of been in focus then the shock/horror on her face would of had a better visual inpact.

 

[lockerxx]

I conitnue to despair at the frequency our developer completely misses an opportunity to take full advantage of the situations he's able to create. For example, considering Sophia's vocation, was this not THE PERFECT opportunity to give us a truly meaningful choice:

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C'mon all you haters and trolls and fans and faithful, be honest and tell me that wouldn't have been fucking epic.

maybe then sophie gives a blowjob to dylan or sam we got the option.

 

[Old Dog]

maybe then sophie gives a blowjob to dylan or sam we got the option.

But nothing will happen again with Sam for a very long time and as L&P has said before Sophia does need a cooling off period

 

[derek1957]

I also think that if Sophia had of been in focus then the shock/horror on her face would of had a bettervisual inpact

I agree. I thought that there were gobs of great renders in this scene, but if I could alter any of them it would have been to see her expression in focus on this one. I thought her feelings of "what have I done?" and "ick, what do I do with this goo?" were clear though.

 

[Old Dog]

I agree. I thought that there were gobs of great renders in this scene, but if I could alter any of them it would have been to see her expression in focus on this one. I thought her feelings of "what have I done?" and "ick, what do I do with this goo?" were clear though.

It may of even cut down on the dialog.