Radoslaw Wolf

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Tried to kill him?!! She gave him viagra!! She probably got a peek of Dylan soft getting out of shower, she wanted to see it fully erect!
What I'm saying is that the project is so far off of what we signed up for, that you might even be actually not incorrect with your interpretation...
 
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As one of those "beating" on the upcoming update, yeah, the idea had a lot of potential. I just expect it to be wasted, much like I was saying with L&P's decisions regarding Emma.

But then I'm one of those who think any storyline that doesn't advance Sophia with either Liam, Dylan, Sam, Ellie or Patricia is a waste of time. At this point, mainly the Dylan branches and the side jobs.

And this update, as the "bonus" storyline, by definition only has Sophia in a minor role. Catching Ellie smoking, for example.
Maybe another beach day for all, Amber, Neil, Sam, and Julia....Alyssa and Zac, Carl and Patricia, Liam, Ellie, and Dylan. Christine and Emma. Sophia's mother and Father, would be a good set up, for Ellie to lure Dylan to the nude beach and Sophia has to go into nude beach, naked of course, to retrieve him.....Ellie is in trouble!!!!
 
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Alley_Cat

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Tried to kill him?!! She gave him viagra!! She probably got a peek of Dylan soft getting out of shower, she wanted to see it fully erect!
Viagra is a drug that increases blood pressure. That's its mechanism of action. Standard initial dose is 25-50mg. Now depending on what size pill they gave him, he could have had 200-300 mg.

It was incredibly reckless of Ellie, but characters have been doing dumb during Dylan events since the Prologue, so it's really par for the course.

And I did say almost.
 
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So based on all the teasers we've got and every single one of them showing one of the ladies taking a piece of clothing off. I think there is a game of some kind going on, that is crystal clear I feel.

I'm wondering if the game is each woman has to decide to take a piece of clothing off or not, if they don't, they're eliminated. The game keeps going till there is one left and the fact Dylan is there makes the game even more daring, which would explain why Christine invited Dylan to what is clearly meant to be a ladies-only night.

I've always thought this event was designed to help Ellie accept Dylan more in a sexual way, or at the very least accept Sophia with Dylan when she finally finds out about them.

I can't deny that would be a great idea and a fun event, this thought certainly got me more interested in the next update, hope I'm right.
 

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I've always thought this event was designed to help Ellie accept Dylan more in a sexual way, or at the very least accept Sophia with Dylan when she finally finds out about them.
Three years ago I would have laughed you out. In this new era of "A Wife, Mother, Son, Daughter, Brother, Family, Friends And Others", I'd say... it's not impossible. Nothing seems to be. Even my joke about a horse from Patricia's ranch...

So, why not take a shortcut and, instead of progressing paths for the second and third most popular character, throw them into one new path? Vox populi (patronorum), vox Dei...
 
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Three years ago I would have laughed you out. In this new era of "A Wife, Mother, Son, Daughter, Brother, Family, Friends And Others", I'd say... it's not impossible. Nothing seems to be. Even my joke about a horse from Patricia's ranch...

So, why not take a shortcut and, instead of progressing paths for the second and third most popular character, throw them into one new path? Vox populi (patronorum), vox Dei...
I still think the event should be a sleepover that Ellie arranged at their home, so we at least see Sophia but if I'm right, then guess it makes more sense to have it at Christine's home, as no way Ellie would arrange Dylan to be involved in the game.

If I'm right, it does fit in with a wife and mother name, as it may play a part in helping Ellie accept Dylan with her mother Sophia.
 

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You really think that Ellie will have that much of a change of heart towards Dylan? She almost tried to kill him! We're not saying the same thing at all.

I'm saying, at least as far as the Ellie route is concerned, Dylan's not even worth consideration. Especially since he's her brother. If there was anyone that Ellie might be more flexible with her dating rules about, it's Sam.
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Your logic is correct about Ellie as to whom she ought to end up with. However, two things to consider, first The Blue Pill poisoning at the beach was a prank--yes a bad one that is dangerous. Sadly, a lot of pranks are not well though through and people die. And in this case, I don't think Ellie intended to kill Dylan. Second, Sophia is in the way of a Sam/Ellie route. Between Sam and Dylan, Sam's feelings are the most honest while Dylan is an opportunist. A special consideration is the developer themself; it just seems the developer is going to force a Dylan/Ellie relationship--one way or the other.

As to Dylan being a brother-- well Sophia is the mom. Hard to square one taboo relationship with another. From a logistical point of view does anyone want more time spent making a Sam and Ellie route? It's not possible but with so many story threads being killed, the odds are not favorable.
 

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Your logic is correct about Ellie as to whom she ought to end up with. However, two things to consider, first The Blue Pill poisoning at the beach was a prank--yes a bad one that is dangerous. Sadly, a lot of pranks are not well though through and people die. And in this case, I don't think Ellie intended to kill Dylan. Second, Sophia is in the way of a Sam/Ellie route. Between Sam and Dylan, Sam's feelings are the most honest while Dylan is an opportunist. A special consideration is the developer themself; it just seems the developer is going to force a Dylan/Ellie relationship--one way or the other.

As to Dylan being a brother-- well Sophia is the mom. Hard to square one taboo relationship with another. From a logistical point of view does anyone want more time spent making a Sam and Ellie route? It's not possible but with so many story threads being killed, the odds are not favorable.
Sophia isn't in the way of the Sam branch of the Ellie route. Sophia's been pushing it, at least twice already during the showers if you're playing both Sam and Ellie routes. It's through Sophia recommending Sam instead of Logan that we learn that Ellie doesn't date younger guys. Which excludes Dylan.

And on the Sam route, after the concert there's the option to pick Ellie up at the beach after Logan abandons her. So at this point Ellie learns that Sam is a rock musician, and has a car. Don't know what it was like when you were younger, but in my area friends with cars had prestige. Which fits in nicely with Ellie's need to look good and be popular.

A Sam branch also neatly fits into the same model of Sophia's LIs - the good guy, the bad guy, and the lesbian route. In Sophia's case it's Sam, Dylan (and by extension Aiden), then Ellie and Patricia (whose routes are so intertwined you may as well consider then one). In Ellie's, it's Sam, Logan, then Jules.

On the other hand, there's nothing on the Ellie route of Sophia suggesting Ellie pursue Dylan. Only that she stop calling him names like troll, gnome, goblin, etc. You don't even need to be playing the Ellie route to play the bonus storyline. And with the bonus storyline now being mutually exclusive to the Sophia/Dylan branch, there's little chance of Sophia suggesting Dylan pursue Ellie.

Not going to weigh in on whether or not the Sam branch should be scrapped - only that as a Jules fan, I'm not going to be playing it.
 
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Your logic is correct about Ellie as to whom she ought to end up with. However, two things to consider, first The Blue Pill poisoning at the beach was a prank--yes a bad one that is dangerous. Sadly, a lot of pranks are not well though through and people die. And in this case, I don't think Ellie intended to kill Dylan. Second, Sophia is in the way of a Sam/Ellie route. Between Sam and Dylan, Sam's feelings are the most honest while Dylan is an opportunist. A special consideration is the developer themself; it just seems the developer is going to force a Dylan/Ellie relationship--one way or the other.

As to Dylan being a brother-- well Sophia is the mom. Hard to square one taboo relationship with another. From a logistical point of view does anyone want more time spent making a Sam and Ellie route? It's not possible but with so many story threads being killed, the odds are not favorable.
Alley_Cat doesn't get it, although she claims she has "NO" heterosexual knowledge, which has been debunked numerous times. "She claims she doesn't know" that the story build-up is about reconciling as brother and sister, which will morph into Dylan/Ellie as potential LI. Sophia smiled when she was on the balcony of her bedroom in a towel, listening to Dylan and Ellie, and again before she left for the 2nd Side Job smiling; the original goal is for Dylan to get a GF; the target is Christine. That is what Sophia told Ellie in the shower, as she pointed out that Christine was into Dylan, and even Christine before the basketball goal shots confirmed, that she liked Dylan. Plus, you can add in the diner scenes to enhance it.

It's the same that goes for Sophia/Dylan; she didn't come out and say she liked Dylan; it was supposed to be a combination of "SEX-ED" and Sophia‘s Lust and the lack of intimacy between Sophia and Liam that's pushing her towards Dylan as an LI. However, Sophia/Dylan, in my opinion, is poorly written because he injected a one-time build-up during the first evening event on PD 13 instead of spreading it out over multiple PDs. This is what he is doing with Dylan/Ellie, and why it is going beyond PD 16 and to PD 30 because he is building it up.

Sophia / Dylan -
Dylan / Emma (removed) - GF Emma blocks Sophia's path
Dylan / Marie - GF Marie blocks Sophia's path
Dylan / Ellie - rejection of Sophia's path by going to the party, potential GF Christine
Dylan / Christine - GF Christine blocks Ellie
Dylan / Sophia - stays with Sophia instead of going to the party, blocks Ellie/Christine

The entire story for both Sophia and Ellie with Dylan is based on one principle... To get Dylan a girlfriend, and she knows this.
 
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Tried to kill him?!! She gave him viagra!! She probably got a peek of Dylan soft getting out of shower, she wanted to see it fully erect!
Sildenafil or Viagra is a vasodilator medication that is prohibited from being sold to minors.
It can cause side effects such as headache, dizziness, tachycardia, general malaise, nausea, redness in the face, but it can also have serious risk side effects. cardiac.
 

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Eventual bizarre dialogue after Dylan returns from the pajama party. (Bizarre but not impossible)

Dylan: Mommy, I had a bad time with the girls at the party. I saw them almost naked, but I couldn't get anything to happen with any of them.

Sophia: Oh, my poor child... do you feel sad?

Dylan: Yes mommy, I feel sad and hot. Won't you let me eat your tits again?

Sophia: Oh, honey... I'm a little embarrassed, daddy could see us.

Dylan: It will be quick mommy, a little suck on your tits... no more than 15 minutes... but I don't think I know how to treat girls sexually yet, mommy... Would you please suck me all off, so I can learn that too?

Sophia: Oh my angel, my poor loser son... How do you ask me that? I'm your mom... I can't suck your cock every time you want...

Dylan: Mommy... please... I won't give any more... I came back from the party and my balls are about to burst my pants...

Sophia: Oh... Dylan... well... just so you can learn how to perform with girls... but don't ask me again... come here, I'm going to suck you.

Dylan: And you'll swallow all my cum, right mommy? I have to learn…!

Sophia: (resigned) ok but don't tell daddy... it will only be so you can have your sexual education. Come, I'll suck you and swallow all your cum. I don't think I'm crossing any limits yet...
 

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https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-190-lust-passion.5944/post-8120982

But, i remember that somewhere among this huge post i read something like an interview in which the LP answered questions.
And to the question of - is there a way in which there will be a threesome sex between Sophia/Dylan/Ellie
he replied that such an option is possible or will definitely be... dont remember.

I'm trying to find this info now, but no results yet.
I couldn't have dreamed that.
Will update if find.
I believe he said it might be a possibility, but it wasn't absolute. He's always changing his mind so I would take it with a grain of salt.
 
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