VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205] [Lust & Passion]

[Bane71]

Does this mean that the animations counter should increase independently of the other progress counters?

Also I'll be happy if in those 17 pages of text he doesn't refer to Sophia's breasts as fun bags or melons or whatever else he used in the previous update. It was easily the worst written event by far imo.

I agree with you that L&P has overdone the terminology in the last update.
In order for Dylan's evening to be hot and he caught up and even surpassed Sam in some ways, the plot must be written well enough. Unfortunately, I notice more and more flaws in the L&P letter.
As for the plot, at least it seems to me that if Sophia experiences an orgasm, then she should try to hide it from Dylan.
And just like you, I hope that he will write this part better than the previous one.

And judging by the published statement of L&P, the animation creation counter will probably move in parallel with the others.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Ellie doesn't exclude Liam from being the one "wearing the pants" in the relationship. Precedent has already been set by Carl and Patricia. As long as no-one else has their dick in Patricia's pussy, she can do whatever the hell she wants.

It's already been shown, since Liam has no problems whatsoever in Sophia and Ellie showering together. He even fixed the lock in order to make it easier.

That rule applies to Carl and Patricia and doesn't carry over between Sophia and Liam. So the only thing that Sophia and Liam have right now is a swinging event, which would eventually be Andy's dick inside Sophia, based on their meeting with Cathy and Andy and the end-of-day event from PD 12.

So I don't understand your point here because your statement was, "One of the reasons I don't play either Dylan or Sam routes is that neither can provide Sophia with the lifestyle she's become accustomed to instead of Liam. The only ones I'm aware of that can are Don Morello and Carl, and neither are LIs." So you are pointing out that Dylan and Sam can't provide for her, for example, the house, car, clothes, etc. The only people that can are the other two wealthy individuals. So which brings me back to my point, what can Ellie provide her?????????

He has no problem with them showering together. However, did Liam witness Sophia and Ellie kissing with their tongues, or did he see Sophia teaching her to masturbate in the shower the following morning? The answer is no. We don't know Liam's reaction if he saw Sophia kissing their daughter.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Does this mean that the animations counter should increase independently of the other progress counters?

Also I'll be happy if in those 17 pages of text he doesn't refer to Sophia's breasts as fun bags or melons or whatever else he used in the previous update. It was easily the worst written event by far imo.

I would say yes, but in his update from last year, the animations were supposed to move concurrently with CS, and they didn't. So I would take that quote with a grain of salt.

I can't guarantee that you won't see fun bags or melons to describe her breast again.

 

[Chucked_Sandwich]

IF L&P is telling the truth, and up to this point, well he's been full of shit.... but lets assume he's turned a corner, I'll say bravo, at least thats one thing done correctly, get the animator going.

Gonna blow up in his face if we get to the end of the update and we're still waiting on the animation though.

 

[Dan5k74]

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For statistical purposes, here are the updated table and graph that tracks the previous polls too.

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**At the moment**:

• Ava and the apostles are raising among the preferences along with Julia and Marie (not so coincidentally they had multiple or very recent events since 2020)
• Amber is regaining popularity along with Mr Murray (!!) and, obviously, Sam, even though he is not yet at the same level as 2020
• Dylan is still leading but Ellie has basically closed the gap at the second place. They both lost quite a lot of votes wrt 2020, especially Dylan.
• Patricia ( ), Alyssa ( ), Vicky, Emma and the Subway Thugs have consistently lost support as well. Cathy was a new entry in 2021 and lost as well a bit.
• Aiden is still 4th with minimum loss.
• Zac is substantially stable and so are Logan, Christine, Claire, Nathalie (even if she gained a bit) and Liam.
• The old gents after their moment of glory in the v0.130 are back to 2020 levels.
• Janitor Clark and the movers seems to be settled on 2021 values, so has Carl.

Let's see if there are surprises coming, especially in Ellie and Dylan's race for the first position. Too close to call, as John King would say!

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I'm not so sure about the second line, but the first one seems like a certainty now.

 

[bayrischman]

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totaly ridiculous.

 

[abram1]

Alley_Cat, I like tickling you here and there due to your uncompromising position as a lesbian adherent, but please, stop embarrassing yourself with your unbridled and unbiased position towards other routes. Before making some comments at least play those paths and not just read them.

I simply don't get the reason behind cutting oneself off a massive, more than a half, chunk of story and moaning that there's no content whatsoever. It's a choice-based VN, with multiple storylines. Ellie is a part of PD13. You've decided to exclude her from your story on this particular day. She's on our radars throughout it and will play her role during 0.195. L&P hasn't left her behind or forgotten about one of the most adorable characters. You did.
Here's how she looks like in the course of this PD, in case you don't recall.

Spoiler: A message from Ellie for Alley_Cat's eyes only

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[PaxHadrian17]

Better: is he/she/they real? Or maybe some lame early version of ChatL&P?

Dread Pirate Roberts

Or

The Very Slow, teasing version of Microsoft's Bing Chat AI - the one that is planning on attacking every user here who has complained about the speed of development. We'll know when all our social media starts to show up with Liam banging every member of our household, male, female, four legged friend, yelling 'Who's Your Daddy!"

 

[Alley_Cat]

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I'm not so sure about the second line, but the first one seems like a certainty now.

In that whatever may have originally planned, that Liam may be the only one that ends up fucking Sophia I believe is an inevitability those considering financially supporting need to consider.

Alley_Cat, I like tickling you here and there due to your uncompromising position as a lesbian adherent, but please, stop embarrassing yourself with your unbridled and unbiased position towards other routes. Before making some comments at least play those paths and not just read them.

I simply don't get the reason behind cutting oneself off a massive, more than a half, chunk of story and moaning that there's no content whatsoever. It's a choice-based VN, with multiple storylines. Ellie is a part of PD13. You've decided to exclude her from your story on this particular day. She's on our radars throughout it and will play her role during 0.195. L&P hasn't left her behind or forgotten about one of the most adorable characters. You did.
Here's how she looks like in the course of this PD, in case you don't recall.
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Spoiler: A message from Ellie for Alley_Cat's eyes only

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For the record, I have no problems embarrassing myself. Actually do it IRL all the time. Did it at least twice today while at work.

And, to your point about Ellie appearing on PD13, she only does it on the Dylan route, to the service of Dylan fans. If you can name a single point she's appeared on the GW or Ellie/Patricia route, I'll shut up. Certainly, she's might have appeared on during Sam events to set up the Sam branch, but that just happens to be something I'm not particularly keeping track of, since Sam fans don't seem to care. If a Sam fan picks up on it, maybe then I'll care.

I'll also point out that I've in no way criticised those that don't play the route I enjoy. And those that play the route I don't. I only tend to point out counter-arguments that characters like Aiden are integral to the main story.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

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I think that there is a typo here. Didn't L&P say he was refining the accuracy of his numbers here? The correct % is actually 0.5%...

 

[Barretto24]

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For statistical purposes, here are the updated table and graph that tracks the previous polls too.

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**At the moment**:

• Ava and the apostles are raising among the preferences along with Julia and Marie (not so coincidentally they had multiple or very recent events since 2020)
• Amber is regaining popularity along with Mr Murray (!!) and, obviously, Sam, even though he is not yet at the same level as 2020
• Dylan is still leading but Ellie has basically closed the gap at the second place. They both lost quite a lot of votes wrt 2020, especially Dylan.
• Patricia ( ), Alyssa ( ), Vicky, Emma and the Subway Thugs have consistently lost support as well. Cathy was a new entry in 2021 and lost as well a bit.
• Aiden is still 4th with minimum loss.
• Zac is substantially stable and so are Logan, Christine, Claire, Nathalie (even if she gained a bit) and Liam.
• The old gents after their moment of glory in the v0.130 are back to 2020 levels.
• Janitor Clark and the movers seems to be settled on 2021 values, so has Carl.

Let's see if there are surprises coming, especially in Ellie and Dylan's race for the first position. Too close to call, as John King would say!

You lot have faaaar too much time on your hands

 

[abram1]

For the record, I have no problems embarrassing myself. Actually do it IRL all the time. Did it at least twice today while at work.

And, to your point about Ellie appearing on PD13, she only does it on the Dylan route, to the service of Dylan fans. If you can name a single point she's appeared on the GW or Ellie/Patricia route, I'll shut up. Certainly, she's might have appeared on during Sam events to set up the Sam branch, but that just happens to be something I'm not particularly keeping track of, since Sam fans don't seem to care. If a Sam fan picks up on it, maybe then I'll care.

I'll also point out that I've in no way criticised those that don't play the route I enjoy. And those that play the route I don't. I only tend to point out counter-arguments that characters like Aiden are integral to the main story.

I ain't here to shame you. What's the hidden reason to ignore your goddess, even if she appears on a different path? She's a plot device for that particular storyline. Let's say, by any miracle, smth more or less interesting gonna happen between siblings during 0.195 events, you still gonna keep looking the other way? I know I won't. If L&P creates this additional subplot, heading to a o-la-la sister/brother scene, I'm all for it. Pairing them together and adding up to the mix their mom later on (10 years from now) - insta cum.

There's no Ellie/Patricia path and never will be, only Sophia/Ellie/Pat is possible, you probably meant Sophia/Pat. I can easily name you at least one. Nightclub event, where she sees her mom making out with aunty, which leads to the 2nd shower and a really hot french kissing scene.

Dylan needs to catch up to her. How many times he's been with Sophia alone, totally naked, against 3 mommy/daughter events? Exactly. When this PD ends, your honey-bunny gonna leap away from everyone in the next morning scene. We can concur that Ellie & Dylan are crucial to this VN, everyone else are appetizers compared to them.

 

[Chandler_Bing]

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[yourmomma]

Sweet lord, okay Sam's route is annoying and unrealistic, because in reality, if a middle aged mother catches her Son's BF perving on her she's either going to shut it down immediately or act on it. Not play some weird passive romantic/courtship route that takes eons to reach consummation. Not to mention a teenager with raging hormones isn't going to get said object of affection naked and then want to draw her.

Which makes me think the dev is either a virgin or has had little irl sexual encounters. Because let me tell yeah a middle aged woman doesn't half ass her sexual prospects. Especially if she feels like her marriage is falling apart.

She's going to find a dick to ride into the sunset.

This game is unrealistic on every level and watching some people trying to make sense of it is hilarious.

I literally just got done reading a story of how a mother seduced her daughter's husband, the young couple got married late teens and the mother and husband had an affair for twenty years, before the wife found out. To drive my point home.

Not to mention the things I've encountered in my own experiences.

If you want to be realistic, cheating and corruption happens all the time and it's usually spontaneous and in the heat of passion over a few drinks, vulnerable emotional states and bad decision making. Not some weird long drawn out seduction process with a fan voting mechanism.

It's like the dev wanted to make a corruption game then fell in love with his main character and is struggling to follow through and or manage patreon requests that also forgot the original purpose of the game was to corrupt the protagonist and also fell in love with her. Mfw.

Life is messy. That's the realism. Rant over.

 

[mentosa]

Well, that's actually the pro way to do it. When there are others who will work in certain scenes you need to start from there and not in the story order. So, we can guess that this is his method to speed up the things a bit, which was the basic common sense, but still.

However this should be reflected in the status update, me thinks

 

[Galaktur]

Sweet lord, okay Sam's route is annoying and unrealistic, because in reality, if a middle aged mother catches her Son's BF perving on her she's either going to shut it down immediately or act on it. Not play some weird passive romantic/courtship route that takes eons to reach consummation. Not to mention a teenager with raging hormones isn't going to get said object of affection naked and then want to draw her.

Which makes me think the dev is either a virgin or has had little irl sexual encounters. Because let me tell yeah a middle aged woman doesn't half ass her sexual prospects. Especially if she feels like her marriage is falling apart.

She's going to find a dick to ride into the sunset.

This game is unrealistic on every level and watching some people trying to make sense of it is hilarious.

I literally just got done reading a story of how a mother seduced her daughter's husband, the young couple got married late teens and the mother and husband had an affair for twenty years, before the wife found out. To drive my point home.

Not to mention the things I've encountered in my own experiences.

If you want to be realistic, cheating and corruption happens all the time and it's usually spontaneous and in the heat of passion over a few drinks, vulnerable emotional states and bad decision making. Not some weird long drawn out seduction process with a fan voting mechanism.

It's like the dev wanted to make a corruption game then fell in love with his main character and is struggling to follow through and or manage patreon requests that also forgot the original purpose of the game was to corrupt the protagonist and also fell in love with her. Mfw.

Life is messy. That's the realism. Rant over.

The problem is that realism does not allow you to cut money from the patron))) He will milk the cow dry

 

[lockerxx]

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finally is moving!!!

 

[Oliver Wendell Homely]

Sweet lord, okay Sam's route is annoying and unrealistic, because in reality, if a middle aged mother catches her Son's BF perving on her she's either going to shut it down immediately or act on it. Not play some weird passive romantic/courtship route that takes eons to reach consummation. Not to mention a teenager with raging hormones isn't going to get said object of affection naked and then want to draw her.

Which makes me think the dev is either a virgin or has had little irl sexual encounters. Because let me tell yeah a middle aged woman doesn't half ass her sexual prospects. Especially if she feels like her marriage is falling apart.

She's going to find a dick to ride into the sunset.

This game is unrealistic on every level and watching some people trying to make sense of it is hilarious.

I literally just got done reading a story of how a mother seduced her daughter's husband, the young couple got married late teens and the mother and husband had an affair for twenty years, before the wife found out. To drive my point home.

Not to mention the things I've encountered in my own experiences.

If you want to be realistic, cheating and corruption happens all the time and it's usually spontaneous and in the heat of passion over a few drinks, vulnerable emotional states and bad decision making. Not some weird long drawn out seduction process with a fan voting mechanism.

It's like the dev wanted to make a corruption game then fell in love with his main character and is struggling to follow through and or manage patreon requests that also forgot the original purpose of the game was to corrupt the protagonist and also fell in love with her. Mfw.

Life is messy. That's the realism. Rant over.

Indeed, there are a lot of aspects of AWAM and virtually every other title available here that do not seem "realistic" for any number of reasons. As we all know, though, life can be stranger than fiction and so I can usually suspend disbelief so long as there is consistency within the game universe. And I think so far that Sophia's interactions with Sam and many other characters are consistent with her character, insofar as we are in a porn game that is meant to slowly tease us with hotter and hotter taboo scenes.

If you really want to bash on a lack of realism in AWAM, though, Sophia's scenes with Sam are the least of it. The idea that a well-mannered professional educator like Sophia would do this:

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is absurd, yet if one hunts through news reports from around the world, one can find examples of just about everything we've seen in this game and worse (or better, depending on your point of view).

 

[MEDATES]

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[XerxesM_]

the milking god of patreon