VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205] [Lust & Passion]

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palmtrees89

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Alley_Cat said:
Do you recall if an update came out in March '22? That sounds it might be around the start of the PD.
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The first update in 2022 was released in April. It was 0.155+0.160 (Update 1 and 2 of PD13) combined, as 0.155 with it's first animations (Jenn rape) took L&P ages to complete. Devcycle for that update was from November 2021 to April 2022.

That's also why L&P's had his all-time peak of ~2300 patrons. Was basically the initial hype for animations, which died down pretty quickly (as can be seen in numbers on the months following that April release).
 
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In the previous episode,
Sam has already caressed Sophia's nipple to the fullest.
So Dylan should go to vagina, not Sophia's nipple.
Let's go, Dylan!
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I've never seen a post in the developer's response released on this forum so far that Dylan will outrun Sam.

And I don't expect will outrun Abba's children too.

The developer said there was no sex this year.
If without sex, it's hard to direct the previous situation in the course of the story.

Dylan only saw Sophia's breast.

So in this update, we have to accept Dylan just touching Sophia's breast and kissing her.
 
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I always smiled at Dylan. The little boy with the expressionless face. But thanks to Amber's hand job ;), he turned into a strong man straight away... :ROFLMAO: :LOL: But I'll admit I like him a lot better this way. Good work. (y)
 
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blademaster89 said:
Okay, in dylan incest route, I can't get ahead with marie, they just talk and the scene switches to the hair saloon, but in the route where I send him away to boarding school, he gets the whole content with marie, what is going on? is there a soft lock on marie if dylan is interested in fucking his mommy?
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any answer to this please?
 
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Dr.Fapalot said:
How did the yoga event play out on your play-through? Did you play one path differently than the other during the yoga event with Sophia/Patricia/Claire/Marie?
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Nope, I did the same playthrough, with 2 routes, namely 1. route where sophia sends him to boarding school 2. where she doesn't.
 
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Alley_Cat said:
Part of my complaint about this playable day is just how one-sided the day is. Besides the Sam event, if you're not playing the Dylan route, there's really no reason to support the game (kinda why I'm so shocked Ellie is doing as well as she is in the poll)

At least on Ellie day there are some Dylan route events, even if he isn't present. Like Aiden's task, or whatever the repercussions are from accepting Morello's help.

And the ranch event isn't likely to be long. I don't believe it will take two years like this PD is turning out to.
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I think that the acceptable/interesting content spectrum is a big difference between you and me. I look forward to a much larger cross section of content than you do. My preferences begin with Sophia and Dylan/Ellie/Patricia, but I also enjoy Dylan/Amber, Dylan/Marie, Ellie/Julia, Sophia/Sam and I am looking forward to the partner swap - Sophia/Cathy's husband + Liam/Cathy.

I'd love it if this includes lesbian content (fine to gate it with sufficient lesbian points, or better - sufficient lesbian points means that Sophia will Finally take the lead and be more aggressive). It could start with Sophia and Cathy both complimenting each other, and they decide to play with each other to get their guys hot. Cathy's always wondered what it would be like to be with another woman - she trusts Sophia - and this is the perfect chance to satisfy that curiosity. This could actually be Great for Sophia as she could experiment with Cathy and then let Liam know that she 'might' be interested in playing with women more often if he is not threatened by that - Liam's So busy and no woman is going to take Sophia away from him (that she will admit, barring the good wife path).

As to the way L&P tells the AWAM story and decides on the content mix of each day - I think he is still stuck in the mindset of a creator who is putting out one PD of content every 4/6 months - so concentrating on a few characters on a given day is not a problem. He has failed to adapt his story telling skills to the incredibly slow story telling pace he has chosen for AWAM, so he has created content drag - where more than 15 - 20% of a day focused on Sophia and 1 other character means that a number of other characters are 'off-stage' far too long.

I am no longer looking for a cohesive AWAM story - I just don't think AWAM will ever be completed, because L&P taking TWO years to complete 1 PD is ridiculous, and I certainly won't be following AWAM in the 2030's and 2040's the way I do now. So, I will take the small releases as vignettes in the AWAM universe - something to enjoy when one interests me - and spend much more time enjoying AVNs with story progression that will actually provide meaningful adult content and great stories - all in the next 5 - 10 years.
 
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palmtrees89 said:
Only thing I wanna add here is the fact that, while L&P's Patreon has seen a steady increase in numbers for roughly the first 4-5 years, the past 12 months aren't looking that great. He's not gaining any more patrons for quite some time now, with the numbers maxing out at roughly 2000-2100 (on average, give or take) coming the end of each month. And not only that, but the average patron tier went down considerably. Perfect example is the current % on his final patron goal, which is sitting at 94% even though he's at 1857 patrons. There was a time when this goal would hit the 100% at ~1400 patrons, which indicates that many people are supporting him with less money than before. I've seen a post a few days ago, can't remember who said it, but apparently there's hardly any high-tier patrons left at the moment.

Just means that L&P's community isn't growing any longer, atleast how it currently stands, and he might even make less money overall compared to a year or two ago. The numbers at the start of each month are still somewhat consistent with ~1600 patrons, but again, he's not growing. Certainly not what you want to see as developer who's project has another 40+ years ahead of it.

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This graph shows perfectly well how his growth stopped in early 2022, especially compared to all the previous years. Some months even saw a decline in patrons, and he's not reached his peak of nearly 2300 patrons again since April 2022.
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It would be interesting if there was a way to add in SS data. I stopped supporting on Patreon more than a year ago and switched to SS. I dropped SS support last month because I felt that AWAM was just not worth the support anymore, compared to other creators who I find myself enjoying more - and who are more responsive to their supporters/fans.

If SS support has also leveled off or dropped, matching the Patreon trend, that would be an interesting fact to add to the overall data.
 
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PaxHadrian17 said:
I think that the acceptable/interesting content spectrum is a big difference between you and me. I look forward to a much larger cross section of content than you do. My preferences begin with Sophia and Dylan/Ellie/Patricia, but I also enjoy Dylan/Amber, Dylan/Marie, Ellie/Julia, Sophia/Sam and I am looking forward to the partner swap - Sophia/Cathy's husband + Liam/Cathy.

I'd love it if this includes lesbian content (fine to gate it with sufficient lesbian points, or better - sufficient lesbian points means that Sophia will Finally take the lead and be more aggressive). It could start with Sophia and Cathy both complimenting each other, and they decide to play with each other to get their guys hot. Cathy's always wondered what it would be like to be with another woman - she trusts Sophia - and this is the perfect chance to satisfy that curiosity. This could actually be Great for Sophia as she could experiment with Cathy and then let Liam know that she 'might' be interested in playing with women more often if he is not threatened by that - Liam's So busy and no woman is going to take Sophia away from him (that she will admit, barring the good wife path).

As to the way L&P tells the AWAM story and decides on the content mix of each day - I think he is still stuck in the mindset of a creator who is putting out one PD of content every 4/6 months - so concentrating on a few characters on a given day is not a problem. He has failed to adapt his story telling skills to the incredibly slow story telling pace he has chosen for AWAM, so he has created content drag - where more than 15 - 20% of a day focused on Sophia and 1 other character means that a number of other characters are 'off-stage' far too long.

I am no longer looking for a cohesive AWAM story - I just don't think AWAM will ever be completed, because L&P taking TWO years to complete 1 PD is ridiculous, and I certainly won't be following AWAM in the 2030's and 2040's the way I do now. So, I will take the small releases as vignettes in the AWAM universe - something to enjoy when one interests me - and spend much more time enjoying AVNs with story progression that will actually provide meaningful adult content and great stories - all in the next 5 - 10 years.
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With the rate I'm now seeing familiar faces in other threads and Discord servers, yeah, I think the time might be approaching that this thread dies down as we spend more time elsewhere.
 
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Godzillafirespitter said:
we've seen a lot of boobs in the last 2 uptades. I'm expecting something different from developer. As I recall, Dylan gave Sophia a foot massage in the tub in past.She even felt Dylan's erection.
This time I think Sophia will give something like a footjob. Maybe without taking off the boxers.
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good luck
 
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I always smiled at Dylan. The little boy with the expressionless face. But thanks to Amber's hand job ;), he turned into a strong man straight away... :ROFLMAO: :LOL: But I'll admit I like him a lot better this way. Good work. (y)
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Unfortunately you won't be seeing him like this in AWAM. This teaser is for the DOL version due to Patreon ToS. You'll be getting the usual teenage boy version of Dylan in the next AWAM release.
 
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PaxHadrian17 said:
I think that the acceptable/interesting content spectrum is a big difference between you and me. I look forward to a much larger cross section of content than you do. My preferences begin with Sophia and Dylan/Ellie/Patricia, but I also enjoy Dylan/Amber, Dylan/Marie, Ellie/Julia, Sophia/Sam and I am looking forward to the partner swap - Sophia/Cathy's husband + Liam/Cathy.

I'd love it if this includes lesbian content (fine to gate it with sufficient lesbian points, or better - sufficient lesbian points means that Sophia will Finally take the lead and be more aggressive). It could start with Sophia and Cathy both complimenting each other, and they decide to play with each other to get their guys hot. Cathy's always wondered what it would be like to be with another woman - she trusts Sophia - and this is the perfect chance to satisfy that curiosity. This could actually be Great for Sophia as she could experiment with Cathy and then let Liam know that she 'might' be interested in playing with women more often if he is not threatened by that - Liam's So busy and no woman is going to take Sophia away from him (that she will admit, barring the good wife path).

As to the way L&P tells the AWAM story and decides on the content mix of each day - I think he is still stuck in the mindset of a creator who is putting out one PD of content every 4/6 months - so concentrating on a few characters on a given day is not a problem. He has failed to adapt his story telling skills to the incredibly slow story telling pace he has chosen for AWAM, so he has created content drag - where more than 15 - 20% of a day focused on Sophia and 1 other character means that a number of other characters are 'off-stage' far too long.

I am no longer looking for a cohesive AWAM story - I just don't think AWAM will ever be completed, because L&P taking TWO years to complete 1 PD is ridiculous, and I certainly won't be following AWAM in the 2030's and 2040's the way I do now. So, I will take the small releases as vignettes in the AWAM universe - something to enjoy when one interests me - and spend much more time enjoying AVNs with story progression that will actually provide meaningful adult content and great stories - all in the next 5 - 10 years.
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When it comes to preferences, I fully agree with you. Only Dylan/Ellie I would mention here additionally. :D

As for Sophia being a more active character, however, I'm a little skeptical. Not because I don't think that a more active Sophia would have been fun, but more because in AWAM Sophia is almost the only character that really needs to be corrupted. If she then virtually switches roles, there would be almost no need for any corruption any more, with the exception of the only alternative is Dylan/Ellie.

Alley_Cat said:
What is going to intrigue me is how Dylan fans are going to cope with potentially not getting a Dylan event for about 4 years, since he's not scheduled to make an appearance for two whole playable days.
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I think your assessment here is fundamentally wrong. I suspect that there are not much (if at all) people here who find only Dylan content in AWAM interesting. This problem of not liking a major story charcater is something you have, but for many here applies only to minor side charters, if at all. I think that most of the people who chose Dylan on there Vote also have Ellie and even Sam on their list.

For example, Even though I find the content around Sophia/Dylan, Sophia/Ellie and Dylan/Ellie in AWAM the best, I will certainly watch the other paths as well.
 
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XaGnard said:
When it comes to preferences, I fully agree with you. Only Dylan/Ellie I would mention here additionally. :D

As for Sophia being a more active character, however, I'm a little skeptical. Not because I don't think that a more active Sophia would have been fun, but more because in AWAM Sophia is almost the only character that really needs to be corrupted. If she then virtually switches roles, there would be almost no need for any corruption any more, with the exception of the only alternative is Dylan/Ellie.



I think your assessment here is fundamentally wrong. I suspect that there are not much (if at all) people here who find only Dylan content in AWAM interesting. This problem of not liking a major story charcater is something you have, but for many here applies only to minor side charters, if at all. I think that most of the people who chose Dylan on there Vote also have Ellie and even Sam on their list.

For example, Even though I find the content around Sophia/Dylan, Sophia/Ellie and Dylan/Ellie in AWAM the best, I will certainly watch the other paths as well.
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So you're not going to complain bitterly that there's no good content? Awesome. Good for you.
 
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