VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205] [Lust & Passion]

[RUSSIAN MAFIA]

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Are you ready, Kids! Her wet dreams!

 

[palmtrees89]

Warning: Wall of text incoming. Not for the faint of heart. You've been warned.

As someone who is trying to develop a game of his own but encounters different problems along the way I can relate to Real life stuff happening or different technical challenges.

Sure, we all have our problems. Not saying L&P is excluded from that, but most people couldn't just stay home and tell their boss that real life problems are unfortunately making it impossible for them to work a couple weeks. People work their usual 8-9 hours a day and then take care of personal shit. That's life. But no, not for L&P obviously. He acts like RL issues take up 24 hours of his day, and he's pulling that off quite often. It's bullshit, and everyone knows it.

When back in 2021 new devcycles wouldn't see any progress for like 2 weeks after a release, nobody said a thing as updates still consisted of 1/3rd of a PD. But now the guy releases 10% of a PD and still there's 0 progress for roughly 2 weeks after each release. That alone amounts to 20 weeks (5 months!), give or take, of ZERO progress for this current PD, which at this point is gonna take more than 2 years. Previously that would have been ~6 weeks. The guy is just getting lazier by the year.

As for the technical stuff, there shouldn't be anything too crazy in this update as the issues he mentioned are related to the hottub part. We've had pretty much the exact same thing at the end of PD12, where it apparently wasn't an issue. There's no animations either, so animating liquids can't be the problem here. Dylan part01 already took place in a bathtub, so what else is different? The lighting? Again, same thing as the last event of PD12.

So now I'm wondering why L&P said that RENDERING of all things is gonna cause a delay when he's barely able to create a handful of scenes a day. The guy has two computers with a total of 4x 3090Ti's and he can't render his shit over night? There's several days, sometimes a week between progress on CS and RS on the bars. That should never be a thing. They should always progress together. Infact, he should delete the second progress bar alltogether it's so dumb. And if you work on your own game, you KNOW that. But as mentioned many times before, his progress bars are meaningless. They do not represent the actual progress made. It's just so his supporters have something to look at while waiting for their fix.

However since he is getting so much money from his patrons he should do one of two things:
1. Hire people to help him if he doesn't have the time to properly invest in the game
2. If he is so anal about noone else touching the game that he can't seem to be able to hire people, he should just disable his patron for the periods he is not working on the game. I've seen plenty of developers do that and it seems like the right move to make if you can't work on the game.

1. L&P's been saying that for the past 6 years almost. He even has it as a Patreon goal, which was reached several years ago. Never did anything to fulfill it, yet comes out every single year again telling his supporters that "this year I'm gonna hire help", then a couple months later says the exact same crap every single time. "Can't find anyone", "not affordable", "nobody is good enough". Dude makes easily $20k a month from Patreon, Subscribestar and other donations combined and then has the audacity to tell his supporters that he can't afford help? Not even a writer? Editor? But he can afford his non-existent animator to slow development down further...what a coincidence. Almost like he's doing the animations himself...oopsie.

2. You are right. That said, I'm laughing my ass of. It is L&P we are talking about. The guy would NEVER consider stopping payments. Not even during periods where he had technical issues or was unable to work for several months. Never. Because he doesn't give no fucks about any of his supporters. All he cares about is their money.

Sorry, wall of text achieved. Rant over. Have a nice day.

 

[Captain Bipto]

let's break the scene down...
1. she's pushing him, not pulling
2. the hot tub light's are on and at his angle, he can clearly see the kid in the hot tub. maybe he has night blindness
3. this position only works if Sofia has a penis
4. what the hell is up with that kid's left arm

Anyone else find a scene we can make fun of or pick apart... maybe we should start a thread for it, to pass the time

 

[Gukl]

if this is a short update how long would a bigger update with animations and minigame take?

 

[Deleted member 4420830]

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let's break the scene down...
1. she's pushing him, not pulling
2. the hot tub light's are on and at his angle, he can clearly see the kid in the hot tub. maybe he has night blindness
3. this position only works if Sofia has a penis
4. what the hell is up with that kid's left arm

Anyone else find a scene we can make fun of or pick apart... maybe we should start a thread for it, to pass the time

How can he not see him?

 

[armion82]

A bag that will contain condoms. And mom will show you how to use them. Poor Dylan, he can't and doesn't know anything. And then he will ask his mother to show where to put it, and then he will ask you to put it inside to try. And stop, stop! It's not about this game . . . :РОФЛМАО::РОФЛМАО::РОФЛМАО:

Yeah and she will put the condom using her mouth.
At least we can dream.

 

[sphynks80]

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How can he not see him?

it's called suspension of disbelief. It is the principle on which theater has been based for 2500 years.

 

[rAmSiMaL]

No, I was talking about Patreon. Billing on the 1st is obviously wrong but in any cases, for example, when you upgrade your account, you're double charged for the current month.

Say you decide to upgrade your subscription on the 15th of the month from 18 to 36 euros. For L&P’s channel you will be charged the difference for the rest of the month (i.e. 18 euros till 31st) and full charge for the coming month (i.e. 36 euros from the 1st of the month). If you upgrade your subscription on 31st August and forget to stop the automatic recharge then you will pay:
- on 31st the difference for the upgrade
- on 1st full charge for the next month

That’s why I’m afraid he will push it till the 1st so that he can get September’s charge from those who will upgrade on 31st and won’t cancel the automatic renewal…

 

[XaGnard]

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How can he not see him?

The whole thing becomes even a bit worse when you consider the refraction of light from air to water. BUT, what's the point of taking every bit apart like that, when the whole story is just fiction anyway?

AWAM is a porn game. At the current point in the story, Liam just didn't see it. That is the story. Maybe, later, it turns out to be a little different as kind of a twist in the story, but now, it's not the real world physics that's decisive, it's the story. Again, AWAM is a porn game.

 

[Anna2021]

just for fun! Someone is ready to jump over the wall...

 

[tofhdns]

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How can he not see him?

This is the limit and level of LP's imagination.

This developer would have believed that it would be invisible, or that people would believe it.

 

[Paco Loco]

This is the limit and level of LP's imagination.

This developer would have believed that it would be invisible, or that people would believe it.

Remember the mantra:

- "It's all about realism"...



- O yea, that looks so fuckin' real as fuck

 

[tofhdns]

The whole thing becomes even a bit worse when you consider the refraction of light from air to water. BUT, what's the point of taking every bit apart like that, when the whole story is just fiction anyway?

AWAM is a porn game. At the current point in the story, Liam just didn't see it. That is the story. Maybe, later, it turns out to be a little different as kind of a twist in the story, but now, it's not the real world physics that's decisive, it's the story. Again, AWAM is a porn game.

A game doesn't have to be trash just because it's a porn game.

I sometimes see someone saying "this game is the best in every way" and at the same time saying "this game is porn, don't ask for quality or detail".

I sometimes get confused whether they are referring to this game as 'low porn' or 'a top quality game that no one should criticize'.

 

[armion82]

The funny thing is, apart from the events with Dylan, in all the other storylines of the game, sophia has wet her pussy multiple times with all the other characters and therefore,( Sam,aiden,ellie,Natalie, adien"s ugly gangs, 3 shota kids, tyler, zack, larry, julia and patricia...ext). sophia is very excited. And she thinks all this is exciting for me. but Sophia never once wet her pussy to Dylan's worst and inexperience touches.

I think Sophia must takes sex-ed classes to frodo Dylan from top to bottom. And Sophia wants to teach him every little thing from the beginning without getting any excited with him..

Are you sure you don't need glasses?
Just from last update.

 

[Rajesh Ram]

L&P is just milking people,
More Waiting = More Money from Patrons.

Even if he finished development he will make people wait with all the development status % which will either be stuck or will increase extremely slowly,

And he is one of the biggest liar , he will spend more time writing excuses than writing script.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

L&P is just milking people,
More Waiting = More Money from Patrons.

Even if he finished development he will make people wait with all the development status % which will either be stuck or will increase extremely slowly,

And he is one of the biggest liar , he will spend more time writing excuses than writing script.

 

[XaGnard]

A game doesn't have to be trash just because it's a porn game.

I sometimes see someone saying "this game is the best in every way" and at the same time saying "this game is porn, don't ask for quality or detail".

I sometimes get confused whether they are referring to this game as 'low porn' or 'a top quality game that no one should criticize'.

I don't know what some people here may have said, but I think we should all be aware that L&P is also just a human being. There is simply no way that he will not make mistakes. Nevertheless, AWAM is much better in quality compared to what a large part of other developers deliver here. At the end of the day, a rating needs to be based on this comparison, and of course a porn game is in a different position than a AAA game with high budget and a lot of people working on it. Of course, L&P could have found a better angle for this scene where Liam really wouldn't have been able to see Sam, but is that really crucial? I think, no. It's more important that this game is finished at some point than to delay the development even further just to find that correct angle.

Furthermore, I think there is a lot to criticize about L&P or AWAM, but especially the comparisons with the real world are just ridiculous, especially in a porn game. This game is based on a fictional story and has its appeal exactly in deviating from the normal. It's the mix of the unrealistic (like fun incest, etc.) in a realistic setting that makes it so appealing. I think, the point is that this event is well written (for a porn game) and it was fun to play. If someone here expects more realism, then the problem lies with him and not with AWAM. It is an exaggerated expectation that is in complete contradiction to what the goal is and should be for a porn game.

 

[wzelisen]

I don't know what some people here may have said, but I think we should all be aware that L&P is also just a human being. There is simply no way that he will not make mistakes. Nevertheless, AWAM is much better in quality compared to what a large part of other developers deliver here. At the end of the day, a rating needs to be based on this comparison, and of course a porn game is in a different position than a AAA game with high budget and a lot of people working on it. Of course, L&P could have found a better angle for this scene where Liam really wouldn't have been able to see Sam, but is that really crucial? I think, no. It's more important that this game is finished at some point than to delay the development even further just to find that correct angle.

Furthermore, I think there is a lot to criticize about L&P or AWAM, but especially the comparisons with the real world are just ridiculous, especially in a porn game. This game is based on a fictional story and has its appeal exactly in deviating from the normal. It's the mix of the unrealistic (like fun incest, etc.) in a realistic setting that makes it so appealing. I think, the point is that this event is well written (for a porn game) and it was fun to play. If someone here expects more realism, then the problem lies with him and not with AWAM. It is an exaggerated expectation that is in complete contradiction to what the goal is and should be for a porn game.

Disguised replacement of concept
I recommend that sponsors buy memberships on the day of release. Don't renew automatically. 1. Make sure your wallet is respected. 2. You can continue to support L&P's game development. This long development process needs to be looked at scientifically and rationally , I believe this is the best thing for both partie

 

[XaGnard]

Disguised replacement of concept
I recommend that sponsors buy memberships on the day of release. Don't renew automatically. 1. Make sure your wallet is respected. 2. You can continue to support L&P's game development. This long development process needs to be looked at scientifically and rationally , I believe this is the best thing for both partie

I would go even further, and not give L&P any more money until he has a clear plan (with clearly defined milestones) of how he wants to finish the game in a realistic time frame.

 

[Woodalicca]

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let's break the scene down...
1. she's pushing him, not pulling
2. the hot tub light's are on and at his angle, he can clearly see the kid in the hot tub. maybe he has night blindness
3. this position only works if Sofia has a penis
4. what the hell is up with that kid's left arm

Anyone else find a scene we can make fun of or pick apart... maybe we should start a thread for it, to pass the time

Don't be so harsh on him. L&P got an unbeatable reason to explain this after all.

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