VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205] [Lust & Passion]

3.20 star(s) 478 Votes
Discussion Reviews (478)
Bibifoc

Bibifoc

Engaged Member
Apr 7, 2018
2,266
4,848
rAmSiMaL said:
Say you decide to upgrade your subscription on the 15th of the month from 18 to 36 euros. For L&P’s channel you will be charged the difference for the rest of the month (i.e. 18 euros till 31st) and full charge for the coming month (i.e. 36 euros from the 1st of the month). If you upgrade your subscription on 31st August and forget to stop the automatic recharge then you will pay:
- on 31st the difference for the upgrade
- on 1st full charge for the next month

That’s why I’m afraid he will push it till the 1st so that he can get September’s charge from those who will upgrade on 31st and won’t cancel the automatic renewal… :cool:
Click to expand...
Except if something changed very recently, Patreon doesn't work like this. You always pay full charge. There is no difference or proportion thing.

Edit: In fact, I'm wrong on the upgrade membership part. After checking my email, it seems I paid the difference last time I did it. So you were totally right in your post :censored:
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Matt1 and Bane71
PietruccioTheHilander

PietruccioTheHilander

Forum Fanatic
Jul 17, 2019
5,490
13,249
XaGnard said:
I don't know what some people here may have said, but I think we should all be aware that L&P is also just a human being. There is simply no way that he will not make mistakes. Nevertheless, AWAM is much better in quality compared to what a large part of other developers deliver here. At the end of the day, a rating needs to be based on this comparison, and of course a porn game is in a different position than a AAA game with high budget and a lot of people working on it. Of course, L&P could have found a better angle for this scene where Liam really wouldn't have been able to see Sam, but is that really crucial? I think, no. It's more important that this game is finished at some point than to delay the development even further just to find that correct angle.

Furthermore, I think there is a lot to criticize about L&P or AWAM, but especially the comparisons with the real world are just ridiculous, especially in a porn game. This game is based on a fictional story and has its appeal exactly in deviating from the normal. It's the mix of the unrealistic (like fun incest, etc.) in a realistic setting that makes it so appealing. I think, the point is that this event is well written (for a porn game) and it was fun to play. If someone here expects more realism, then the problem lies with him and not with AWAM. It is an exaggerated expectation that is in complete contradiction to what the goal is and should be for a porn game.
Click to expand...
meanwhile it is the same L&P who first defined the realistic game; then nobody questions that he makes mistakes, the problem is that: if you point it out to him, he insults you
 
  • Like
Reactions: LSC82, AlfredBundy4, wzelisen and 2 others
tofhdns

tofhdns

Well-Known Member
Jan 25, 2021
1,424
3,344
XaGnard said:
I don't know what some people here may have said, but I think we should all be aware that L&P is also just a human being. There is simply no way that he will not make mistakes. Nevertheless, AWAM is much better in quality compared to what a large part of other developers deliver here. At the end of the day, a rating needs to be based on this comparison, and of course a porn game is in a different position than a AAA game with high budget and a lot of people working on it. Of course, L&P could have found a better angle for this scene where Liam really wouldn't have been able to see Sam, but is that really crucial? I think, no. It's more important that this game is finished at some point than to delay the development even further just to find that correct angle.

Furthermore, I think there is a lot to criticize about L&P or AWAM, but especially the comparisons with the real world are just ridiculous, especially in a porn game. This game is based on a fictional story and has its appeal exactly in deviating from the normal. It's the mix of the unrealistic (like fun incest, etc.) in a realistic setting that makes it so appealing. I think, the point is that this event is well written (for a porn game) and it was fun to play. If someone here expects more realism, then the problem lies with him and not with AWAM. It is an exaggerated expectation that is in complete contradiction to what the goal is and should be for a porn game.
Click to expand...
Developers don't have to worry about angles.
It doesn't make sense that Liam doesn't spot Sam in either angle.

Of course, any football player makes mistakes.
But I'm saying that this is not the developer's mistake, it's the developer's level.

Also, I'm talking about the double standards of some fanboys.

Don't you criticize while watching football?
Don't you criticize while watching porn?

Whether it was a mistake or skill (a lack of imagination), you will criticize and compare.
various people and situations, food, employees, friends, professional athletes, and doctors etc.

I'm talking about that.



Let's add.

It wouldn't have been a problem if the developer hadn't created such a stupid situation.
Rather than putting Sam and Dylan next to Liam and asking people to accept that "Liam didn't see", it was better not to have Liam in the first place.

is it difficult?
 
  • Hey there
  • Like
Reactions: Kouroshmore and hu lover
hu lover

hu lover

Forum Fanatic
Jul 27, 2022
4,134
5,779
tofhdns said:
Developers don't have to worry about angles.
It doesn't make sense that Liam doesn't spot Sam in either angle.

Of course, any football player makes mistakes.
But I'm saying that this is not the developer's mistake, it's the developer's level.

Also, I'm talking about the double standards of some fanboys.

Don't you criticize while watching football?
Don't you criticize while watching porn?

Whether it was a mistake or skill (a lack of imagination), you will criticize, compare.
various people and situations, food, employees, friends, professional athletes, and doctors etc.

I'm talking about that.



Let's add...

It wouldn't have been a problem if the developer hadn't created such a stupid situation.
Rather than putting Sam and Dylan next to Liam and asking people to accept that "Liam didn't see", it was better not to have Liam in the first place.

is it difficult?
Click to expand...
Very descriptive. (y)
 
  • Like
Reactions: tofhdns
X

XaGnard

Active Member
Aug 11, 2018
528
1,688
PietruccioTheHilander said:
meanwhile it is the same L&P who first defined the realistic game; then nobody questions that he makes mistakes, the problem is that: if you point it out to him, he insults you
Click to expand...
I think, it's silly to believe in the possibility of a realistic porn game. This simply cannot exist, since the goal of a porn game is precisely the partial deviation from reality. It therefore makes zero sense to accuse L&P of alleged non-compliance with a statement. Particularly since I think that his statement referred to realistic graphics and the daily schedule.

I've said here many times that I don't think much of L&P, and one reason for that is his mainly poor project management and unfair treatment of fans of his game. I think that he, and some other developers here, exploited the pateron system. But that doesn't mean that I'm badmouthing the game itself just to spite him.

AWAM, although certainly not perfect, stands out positively from the mass of porn games here, and the qualities it has should be fairly emphasized. The exaggerated focus on realism, which would also not make sense for any other game here, I simply can not understand. It's just not a smart criticism considering that if this game is ever going to finish telling its stories, it needs to go much further.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Bane71 and hzjujk
tofhdns

tofhdns

Well-Known Member
Jan 25, 2021
1,424
3,344
bike-fall-meme-bike-fall.gif
I think this image can easily explain it.

This developer is in pain, adding something that shouldn't have been added.
 
  • Like
Reactions: INOM_18
I

ihl86

Member
Dec 8, 2019
375
1,300
DIRTY Filthy RAT said:
I just want someone to name one game that’s been out for atleast 6 years where the main character has not had a sex scene except with husband (flashback from when she’s 17 yr old teen don’t count in my book) I’ll wait
View attachment 2858595
Click to expand...
If there is one, it's probably one with very few updates and very few patrons, definitely nothing at AWAM's scale.

What I do want to mention though is that for me and me preferences, I find for example Sofia's last two Aiden tasks much hotter than I would have found a sex scene with her and Dylan or Sam. I guess it's how kinks work. Seeing a milf with a teenager (Sam) is something you can see in porn any day of the week and doesn't really do anything for me. Seeing her with Dylan is just a little better, but not far off (incest is so prevalent in porn nowadays it's almost become the norm).

I'm sure I'm in the minority here, especially with how many fans Dylan has (Sam is quite close I think). However I just wanted to say there are different viewpoints to what scenes are hot or not.
What kills me is the fact that the development speed is so slow, any one of us has to wait a long time to see his preferred scene/scenes. I imagine sometimes more than a year (I'm thinking of Ellie fans here).
 
  • Like
Reactions: DIRTY FILTHY Animal and mindexcursion
tofhdns

tofhdns

Well-Known Member
Jan 25, 2021
1,424
3,344
As I remember, 'JHON' is a developer's side job, and 'AWAM' is a developer's full-time job.

So I remember that the players of 'JHON' understood a lot and waited a lot.
 
tofhdns

tofhdns

Well-Known Member
Jan 25, 2021
1,424
3,344
This year should pass quickly and next year should come, but time doesn't go by too fast.
My mood is now October, but the reality is still August. :sick:
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom
3.20 star(s) 478 Votes