if what your saying is true then he wants it to be DLC like he was suppose to do with coach or whatever back in part 1 of the VN and probably charge those that want to see it extra or maybe he will include it free for his subs who knows but still it seems kinda shady and sketchy to do that though he would only be wanting to do that to get more money off people and at same time get back on patreon although that is a pipe dream right now he might as well face it and continue to move the fuck on
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Only answering to your graph. Some days ago, while my account was suspended I did some research. Take into account that this is only with public numbers and monthly income:
- Patreon totals: $24 Million in non-hidden earnings (the top creators of Adult games hide their earnings) / 270K creators
- Adult Games: $2.116 Million in non-hidden earnings/7,100 creators (I won't repeat the non-hidden earnings in the following lines)
- Adult animation: $646K/3,431 creators
- Adult photography: $94K/4,097 creators
- Adult video: $700K/10,397 creators
- Adult 3D printing: $11K/120 creators
- Adult Comics: $900K/6,897 creators
- Adult Cosplay: $32K/1,270 creators
- Adult dance & Theater: $14K/319 creators
- Adult Drawing: $942K/14,307 creators
- Adult Magazines: $4K/99 creators
- Adult Music: $31K/891 creators
- Adult Podcasts: $113K/1,511 creators
- Adult writing: $354K/4,371 creators
- Adult Other: $953K/18,345 creators
So the Adult market gives Patreon $6.910 Million in non-hidden pledges. I think it's a safe bet to double that number, knowing that the devs of adult games with more patrons hide their earnings, we can extrapolate it to other adult memberships.
But without extrapolating, the Adult content gives Patreon ~28.8% of their (public) earnings (with 27% of the creators).
The Adult game market alone gives them 8,8% (and remember ~70% of top Adult Games creators hide their earnings, it's a bit less in other "niches") with 2.7% of the creators. The best earning/creator ratio.
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I understand your intention.
And I agree to some extent.
However, there is one point that needs to be addressed.
They are not the only ones who want to hide their income details.
Their money is not tagged as adult content creators.
They get paid from Patreon just like any other creator.
There is no reason for them to be special.
Conversely, there is no reason to hide the size of their income any longer than necessary because it helps attract additional subscribers.
Even here, although no one has given authority to L&P, there are people who follow him and pretend that he is a great person, citing his high income and number of subscribers.
I believe you have had the same experience.
And the commission that Patreon takes is 5%.
The rest is taken by the payment system company.
- Apr 11, 2022
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Yes, I know adult creators aren't the only ones that hide their earnings (or even their subscribers). That's why I wrote "(and remember ~70% of top Adult Games creators hide their earnings, it's a bit less in other "niches")".
No, Adult creators aren't special per se. Patreon is making us special. According to the Cambridge dictionary:
So their witch hunt against Adult creators makes us special to a certain degree, since it's not usual for they to witch hunt other creators.
Hiding earnings (I don't do it, but I am not living out of Patreon) has its reason. I'm earning low quantities compared with L&P (I read in this thread that s/he was making $17K, so I'm making less than 1/5th) and some players told me that they can't support me because I'm making more money with My Dorm than they are earning with their job and they'd rather support creators who earn less. Totally respectable. If they told me that, imagine what they would think about a guy/girl/team earning $17K. That's why a lot of the top creators (in any niche) hide their earnings. Almost no one hides their subscribers, because having 1,857 subscribers (the latest L&P count) attracts more subscribers than having 606 (mine today). 1,857 people shouldn't be wrong, right? I always have been a transparent guy and I am not hiding my earnings. I doubt I will ever do.
It's weird to say that a creator is a great person because of how much they earn or how many people support them. George RR Martin should be a saint then, right? I'm afraid I have to disagree. Creators could be great people because of what they provide to their subscribers, and how they treat them, not because of how many they have. That only shows their product is good (or had a bit of luck).
Patreon gets 5%-8%-12% depending on the Creator's plan. IIRC the 5% plan doesn't have tiers. I'm in the 8% plan.
As you can see, it's 8% for Patreon plus payment processing, currency conversion, payout fees, and applicable taxes. In total, I'm getting 81.77% (before paying my taxes) of what the subscribers pay on Patreon. On Subscribestar I get 86.89%
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she looks very weird in Subscribestar banner
I hope the LP will strive in order to accelerate the plot development. The aim to get his patrons in subscribesta is a nice stimul.
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I can't believe people are so naive and I'm tired of hearing how unrealistic this is. It happens all the time even in the US. There are many cases of female teachers being arrested and who knows how many cases we will never know happened.
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This is one of those pictures Dylan found from Sophia’s photo shooting when she was a student. The picture here is stretched to fit the banner.
I was hoping to hook Sophia up with Sam and then have Dylan hook up with Amber. The moms can have each other's sons, and the sons can have each other's moms. 
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Sam should get all the women in the gameI was hoping to hook Sophia up with Sam and then have Dylan hook up with Amber. The moms can have each other's sons, and the sons can have each other's moms.
Few questions L&P answered (credit-
Q1.Why was the Patreon page deleted?
Q2.Will Sofia's old model return?
Q3.Sofia is a swimming teacher, physical education lesson, when can we expect this?
Q4.When can we expect an update?
Q5.Will there be a drug story in the future?
Q6.Who works on your team?
Q7.Will there be a lot of sex in the future?
Q8.Will there be a storyline with a glory hole? (sucks a dick through a hole)
Q9.Is it possible that we will see Sofia having sex while stuck somewhere (in the washing machine, in a hole)?
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) :Q1.Why was the Patreon page deleted?
Q2.Will Sofia's old model return?
Q3.Sofia is a swimming teacher, physical education lesson, when can we expect this?
Q4.When can we expect an update?
Q5.Will there be a drug story in the future?
Q6.Who works on your team?
Q7.Will there be a lot of sex in the future?
Q8.Will there be a storyline with a glory hole? (sucks a dick through a hole)
Q9.Is it possible that we will see Sofia having sex while stuck somewhere (in the washing machine, in a hole)?
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Didn't he confirm that he'll exclude 1st side job and remove it?
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No. He was going to remove it but decided against it cuz they're very popular
L&Ps Subscribestar page seems to be down...
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I personally wouldn't want to see Sophia engaging in any of these