xxxorro

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There is no need to count Filthy points; if both variables are set to False, it's evident that the player has chosen neither "Show breasts" (day20_Sophia_showed_her_breasts_to_Aidens_gang) nor "Let yourself getting groped" (day20_Sophia_let_herself_getting_groped_by_Aidens_gang), so Sophia has returned home.
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Otherwise, based on their different values (and evidently only one of them can be True) we will probably have different dialogues.
Yes but I'm referring to the very beginning when Sophia has to decide whether to meet Aiden or not because she spotted the gang:
1653571173241.png

In the code
Python:
    menu day20_Sophia_decides_meeting_Aiden_or_not:
        "Turn around and drive home":
            st "Damn it, what the fuck am I doing here?!"
            st "This looks suspicious AF! Screw this!"
            scene black with fade
            stop music fadeout 1.4
            "Sophia listened to her feminine intuition, turned around, and drove back home."
            scene day20_Sophia_meets_Aiden_at_hangout_place 203 with fade
            "She watched some TV and enjoyed a moment of rest."
            $ renpy.pause(0.4, hard=True)
            $ renpy.pause()
            jump day20_Sophia_after_relaxing_in_living_room
        "Stay and risk it":
            pass
If she turns around and goes back there is no trace to capture this choice.
As you said, if both those variables are False it means that:
  • Sophia took the Flee option in the menu you showed

    OR

  • the Flee option in this other (previous) menu (show panties)
    1653571413269.png

    OR

  • she was never at the meeting in the first place because she drove back immediately.
But there is no way to express a condition to know *exactly* that she refuse to enter the hideout because she spotted the gang members.

That's what I found odd. it's like being there or not being there was not relevant.

And, similarly, you cannot tell whether she showed the panties and then flee or she refused to show the panties, because you can only check that the 2 variables are false, which happens in the 3 different cases above (drive back, try to flee (panties) and try to flee (breast/grope).
While showing panties might not be so relevant or important, driving home it's a completely different event that need to/should be addressed in future dialogues.
 
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Sabertooth__

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Most of the community seems to hate aiden. Besides, we wait months and get very little content anyway. so Why does the developer spends his time and money on aiden's (disturbing and not sexy at all) blackmail bullshit ?
Maybe he should open a pool and ask what the people who support him wants.
Aiden is the 4th or 5th most popular character of his novel on patreon as per character poll
 

Dan5k74

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Yes but I'm referring to the very beginning when Sophia has to decide whether to meet Aiden or not because she spotted the gang:
View attachment 1831789

In the code
Python:
    menu day20_Sophia_decides_meeting_Aiden_or_not:
        "Turn around and drive home":
            st "Damn it, what the fuck am I doing here?!"
            st "This looks suspicious AF! Screw this!"
            scene black with fade
            stop music fadeout 1.4
            "Sophia listened to her feminine intuition, turned around, and drove back home."
            scene day20_Sophia_meets_Aiden_at_hangout_place 203 with fade
            "She watched some TV and enjoyed a moment of rest."
            $ renpy.pause(0.4, hard=True)
            $ renpy.pause()
            jump day20_Sophia_after_relaxing_in_living_room
        "Stay and risk it":
            pass
If she turns around and goes back there is no trace to capture this choice.
As you said, if both those variables are False it means that Sophia took the Flee option in the menu you showed OR the Flee option in this other (previous) menu (show panties)
View attachment 1831790
OR she was never at the meeting in the first place. But there is no way to express a condition to know *exactly* that she refuse to enter the hideout because she spotted the gang members.

That's what I found odd. it's like being there or not being there was not relevant.
I don't know, maybe what matters to L&P about this event (according to the story that only he knows and wants to tell us), is not when Sophia returned home, what matters is whether she came home or showed her breasts or let someone grope her.
 
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Bibifoc

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Yes someone already reported that and I think Bibifoc already fixed for the next release.
It is part of the problem I was mentioning at the very beginning of my post, in the previous version Sophia was supposed to visit Aiden no matter the choice about Morello, which led us to come up with the "chivalry" theory and so on. And since this branching was repeated many times through the code it's only natural that one of them might have slipped through during the fixing. Here is the example for those interested
(v0.160 on the left and v0.161 on the right)
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this branching was repeated in many places in the code. I don't know if it could be easily refactor in a function that does the job so that it can be easily maintained since it is repeated so many times. I never saw that in other games but also I'm not an expert in renpy, what do you think Bibifoc ?
First of all, L&P writes all the "story" code (currently day20.rpy). I review, sometimes fix things or propose solutions (for example menu choices have changed in the last update. It saves some duplicate code when players chose a filthy option without having enough filthy points).

I think I'm not breaking any big secret by saying that all the coding stuff is just pain in the ass for L&P. He's absolutely not interested in that. So code improvement not have to be the best possible but the best acceptable possible. And it doesn't only concern L&P. The more technical the devs are, the more you can propose. In the other case, you need to adapt and propose more user-friendly solutions.

In any case, all your analysis are interesting and I think I didn't pay enough attention to that. It's just the beginning of Part 2 but I feel the branching is already a little out of control :rolleyes:
 

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Most of the community seems to hate aiden. Besides, we wait months and get very little content anyway. so Why does the developer spends his time and money on aiden's (disturbing and not sexy at all) blackmail bullshit ?
Maybe he should open a pool and ask what the people who support him wants.
he did. Aiden comes 3rd
 

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Yes but I'm referring to the very beginning when Sophia has to decide whether to meet Aiden or not because she spotted the gang:
View attachment 1831789

In the code
Python:
    menu day20_Sophia_decides_meeting_Aiden_or_not:
        "Turn around and drive home":
            st "Damn it, what the fuck am I doing here?!"
            st "This looks suspicious AF! Screw this!"
            scene black with fade
            stop music fadeout 1.4
            "Sophia listened to her feminine intuition, turned around, and drove back home."
            scene day20_Sophia_meets_Aiden_at_hangout_place 203 with fade
            "She watched some TV and enjoyed a moment of rest."
            $ renpy.pause(0.4, hard=True)
            $ renpy.pause()
            jump day20_Sophia_after_relaxing_in_living_room
        "Stay and risk it":
            pass
If she turns around and goes back there is no trace to capture this choice.
As you said, if both those variables are False it means that:
  • Sophia took the Flee option in the menu you showed

    OR

  • the Flee option in this other (previous) menu (show panties)
    View attachment 1831790

    OR

  • she was never at the meeting in the first place because she drove back immediately.
But there is no way to express a condition to know *exactly* that she refuse to enter the hideout because she spotted the gang members.

That's what I found odd. it's like being there or not being there was not relevant.

And, similarly, you cannot tell whether she showed the panties and then flee or she refused to show the panties, because you can only check that the 2 variables are false, which happens in the 3 different cases above (drive back, try to flee (panties) and try to flee (breast/grope).
While showing panties might not be so relevant or important, driving home it's a completely different event that need to/should be addressed in future dialogues.
When she arrives at the meeting, she's not peeking discreetly but going in and only think about leaving after a few steps in (like in the first screenshot of your post).

Then it's not shown but if she sees Aiden and his gang, they also see her. But they don't go after her and just let her go from afar. So in any case she was at the meeting, even when she didn't talk at all with Aiden.
 
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I have downloaded the latest part 2 ,but Can anyone help, at the main menu were it says update, I click on it, it shows my name but wants a password, tried everything, is there a special password I should be using ? or is there a way to reset it? any help would be greatly appreciated..thanks
 
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