VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[wh8780799]

The development speed of this game is very slow now, but there is a lot of game content

At present, I think it is difficult for him alone to complete the development of the game, and even at a certain stage, he will get bored and give up the game

Can you provide some helpful suggestions that can promote development progress.

Firstly, what we need to determine is his core interests. As far as I know, he is unwilling to find a partner because his income will decrease, and

He is concerned about the issue of leaks. I think income is his core goal, and we should suggest how to maintain his income without declining

Improved his development speed.

My suggestion is to rent a cloud computer, which is only responsible for creating scenes and handing over the rendering work to the cloud computer. This, I believe, will double the development speed and keep the game confidential.

The cost of renting cloud computers is actually not expensive.

Secondly, it is crucial to establish a team, as AWAM will eventually come to an end. Creating another high-quality game to generate new revenue and fans is crucial, and the game can be launched on STEAM to increase revenue.

I think there are two key factors to a good narrative game, one is the plot, and the other is the visuals. However, AWAM can also give people a sense of realism, which comes from gradually adapting to reality and making Sophia change,

Instead of certain games that suddenly lose humanity, morality, and brains.

 

[tofhdns]

I think the setting was wrong at the beginning, his goal is to turn Sophia into a slut in a month, which will limit the game to this summer, and it is not realistic enough, how long has Dylan been learning self-defense martial arts, and if the plot requires Dylan to fight, then can you beat many people in a few days? My suggestion is to directly delete the number of days in the game, let the game develop naturally, or even skip a month, two months, now Sam touched Sophia in the morning, went to practice in the afternoon and the student was touched again, and his son touched again in the evening, I think Sophia's mood and thoughts will adjust so quickly? It makes more sense to skip a few days

It's the part I was most concerned about, and for this reason, I was pessimistic about the end of the game.

If LP keeps hesitating to produce sex scenes like he does now, when the final day of this game comes, Sophia will not have enough time even if she dances with all the men from morning to noon, from evening to night.

Alternatively, Sofia can only have sex with Dylan once and Sam once, and the story ends like that, and LP can make gang DLC and student DLC to make extra money on Steam.

And the second is now very likely.

 

[MyFirstPornAcc]

Finally he stuck

Was there no progress for the whole week?

 

[Woodalicca]

Progress always slow down when he's working on the main course or having issues with the complexity of some scenes/background he wants to set up. It has always been like this since the begining.

 

[HulaMaster]

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[Dr.SigmundFap]

There are no realistic porn games. However, the story clearly also has gaps that could have been avoided. One possibility would certainly have been to extend the story to a year.

On the other hand, we should not take all this too seriously. It is and remains a porn game and will never be awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature. It's much more important that the story moves forward.

The point is that it is not about whether you or I think the game is realistic. It's about how the author describes his AV, which is "realistic," which points from everything from the Art details down to the writing. I have had numerous conversations with him about how he describes certain scenes and how they play out to be considered "realistic," In which he believes that the details in his story are based on reality. In other words, he believes his writing is real and not fiction, so he doesn't consider it a "Porn Game," he is creating something more than that based on my conversations with him. This is why many people question the story. If you read it, his About page on Patreon sets the foundation for the story and what the reader should expect.

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Now you can spin it and think that this is only a porn game, but it still doesn't change the fact of how the author describes his novel.

The story should progress, as you said in your comment. But whether the tale is "realistic" or fiction, it does need to follow a sequence for the reader to understand how the MC or characters arrived at a certain point in the scene. Some arcs follow this process, and others do not. This is why I have a problem with Sophia/Dylan's arc. It's not that I don't want Dylan to achieve the goal of being with Sophia; it's the writing on how he is getting to that point, which is making no sense right now.

 

[Morgan12]

The point is that it is not about whether you or I think the game is realistic. It's about how the author describes his AV, which is "realistic," which points from everything from the Art details down to the writing. I have had numerous conversations with him about how he describes certain scenes and how they play out to be considered "realistic," In which he believes that the details in his story are based on reality. In other words, he believes his writing is real and not fiction, so he doesn't consider it a "Porn Game," he is creating something more than that based on my conversations with him. This is why many people question the story. If you read it, his About page on Patreon sets the foundation for the story and what the reader should expect.

You must be registered to see the links

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Now you can spin it and think that this is only a porn game, but it still doesn't change the fact of how the author describes his novel.

The story should progress, as you said in your comment. But whether the tale is "realistic" or fiction, it does need to follow a sequence for the reader to understand how the MC or characters arrived at a certain point in the scene. Some arcs follow this process, and others do not. This is why I have a problem with Sophia/Dylan's arc. It's not that I don't want Dylan to achieve the goal of being with Sophia; it's the writing on how he is getting to that point, which is making no sense right now.

It can only end with Sophia knocked up, by whom depends on the route played. I'd like to see Zac knock her up and she leaves Liam for Alyssa and Zac....just my opinion

 

[kewlbigdan]

Every decision in the game results in a split thread. The exponential result complicates the dialog, results in events having to mesh with multiple merging threads and increases the number of renders to portray each thread setting. This is why we had 4 version of the classroom with different people present and wearing different jackets.
I dont think LP thought through the expanding workload to keep each thread going over the long term.
I have read just part of the code. If A happened and B happened and C happened but E, F and G didnt happen then H happens, else if A, B, L and Q happened then etc etc.
It becomes unmanageable so LP just ignores past event and resets emotions and thoughts to accommodate multiple threads.

 

[XaGnard]

The point is that it is not about whether you or I think the game is realistic. It's about how the author describes his AV, which is "realistic," which points from everything from the Art details down to the writing. I have had numerous conversations with him about how he describes certain scenes and how they play out to be considered "realistic," In which he believes that the details in his story are based on reality. In other words, he believes his writing is real and not fiction, so he doesn't consider it a "Porn Game," he is creating something more than that based on my conversations with him. This is why many people question the story. If you read it, his About page on Patreon sets the foundation for the story and what the reader should expect.

You must be registered to see the links

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Now you can spin it and think that this is only a porn game, but it still doesn't change the fact of how the author describes his novel.

The story should progress, as you said in your comment. But whether the tale is "realistic" or fiction, it does need to follow a sequence for the reader to understand how the MC or characters arrived at a certain point in the scene. Some arcs follow this process, and others do not. This is why I have a problem with Sophia/Dylan's arc. It's not that I don't want Dylan to achieve the goal of being with Sophia; it's the writing on how he is getting to that point, which is making no sense right now.

I don't think you can achieve real world realism in a porn game. It is simply not possible because realism goes against the very idea of a porn game. It's a little like hot ice cream. You can claim it, but that doesn't make it true. I at least have never seen a real world realistic porn game and regardless of what L&P says, I see no reason to deviate from this view until someone proves me wrong.

Anyway, I think we can all agree that AWAM is not real world realistic. Even if Dylan were to be completely removed from the story, this would not change because also the other stories have many unrealistic elements. Or do you really think that in the real world women suddenly try out a recent acquaintance Sybian, Have so much fear of a janitor that they serve as jerk-off material, being forced by a student to perform half nude tasks in front of the class, Sophia gives kids a downright handjob, etc., etc.? This game is full of elements that make no sense in the real world. That you are now singling out Dylan, I think is pointless and more related to you not liking the incest kink with him.

Furthermore, it makes no sense to strive for a realistic porn game, because that would be a game in which practically nothing would happen except for sex with Liam. Sophia was simply portrayed as too much of a prude at the beginning of the game for her to suddenly change her entire worldview within a few weeks.

Ultimately, we can only hope that Sophia's progress, especially with Dylan and Ellie, continues. At least those are the stories I'm most interested in by far. Also, I find it positive that slowly events can be seen, in which the possibility exists that something more happens. Another dialogue in which I confirm to Sophia that it is completely ok for her to show her breasts, I can no longer handle. I have confirmed this so many times now, not only to Dylan and Ellie, that Sophia would have to think it's normal to run around topless all day long.

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

Every decision in the game results in a split thread. The exponential result complicates the dialog, results in events having to mesh with multiple merging threads and increases the number of renders to portray each thread setting. This is why we had 4 version of the classroom with different people present and wearing different jackets.
I dont think LP thought through the expanding workload to keep each thread going over the long term.
I have read just part of the code. If A happened and B happened and C happened but E, F and G didnt happen then H happens, else if A, B, L and Q happened then etc etc.
It becomes unmanageable so LP just ignores past event and resets emotions and thoughts to accommodate multiple threads.

I think he’s more concerned with getting this game on Steam and finding out what he has to remove from his game for that to happen and it’s alot

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

I think he’s more concerned with getting this game on Steam and finding out what he has to remove from his game for that to happen and it’s alot

In anticitation of the inevitable wrath and exodus of the patrons at some point?

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

I don't think you can achieve real world realism in a porn game. It is simply not possible because realism goes against the very idea of a porn game. It's a little like hot ice cream. You can claim it, but that doesn't make it true. I at least have never seen a real world realistic porn game and regardless of what L&P says, I see no reason to deviate from this view until someone proves me wrong.

Ok, you're injecting your opinion here, which is irrelevant based on how the author describes his nove/game and writes in that format. Again, It doesn't matter if you think it's fiction or realistic. He's basing the writing of this story on how he perceives world events take place. That is the foundation of his writing, why he is under the mindset that his story is "realistic," and why he describes it that way.

There have been members here that challenge his writing style, only to have him explain what he is writing is "realistic." Have you ever spoken or written to him and challenged his writing or asked him questions about why certain things happen that don't have any logic to them?

Anyway, I think we can all agree that AWAM is not real world realistic. Even if Dylan were to be completely removed from the story, this would not change because also the other stories have many unrealistic elements. Or do you really think that in the real world women suddenly try out a recent acquaintance Sybian, Have so much fear of a janitor that they serve as jerk-off material, being forced by a student to perform half nude tasks in front of the class, Sophia gives kids a downright handjob, etc., etc.? This game is full of elements that make no sense in the real world. That you are now singling out Dylan, I think is pointless and more related to you not liking the incest kink with him.

Why do you think I don't like the incest kink with Sophia/Dylan??? You need to go back and read some of my past comments from 2018 before you make that comment.

To give you a short version of Sophia/Dylan's story arc. Sophia never displays any physical attraction towards Dylan until this evening part one event. Everything else was designed for one thing, "SEX-ED," which she even displayed in the bathroom with Dylan. He jammed a build-up event in part 1 when he should have played the build-up out over multiple PDs instead of just one event. Whereas you can see and read a chronological build-up of Ellie and Sam's arc with Sophia.

Furthermore, it makes no sense to strive for a realistic porn game, because that would be a game in which practically nothing would happen except for sex with Liam. Sophia was simply portrayed as too much of a prude at the beginning of the game for her to suddenly change her entire worldview within a few weeks.

Again, regardless of whether it makes no sense or does make sense, it's irrelevant based on my first comment above.

Ultimately, we can only hope that Sophia's progress, especially with Dylan and Ellie, continues. At least those are the stories I'm most interested in by far. Also, I find it positive that slowly events can be seen, in which the possibility exists that something more happens. Another dialogue in which I confirm to Sophia that it is completely ok for her to show her breasts, I can no longer handle. I have confirmed this so many times now, not only to Dylan and Ellie, that Sophia would have to think it's normal to run around topless all day long.

There are a couple of arcs I'm interested in, which are Dylan, Ellie, and Patricia, but I do play the story unchained to help me understand how the author writes his story. And right now, Sophia/Dylan's story has issues that should have been addressed when he removed "The Twist" a couple of years ago but chose to keep most of it intact.

Currently, I see Dylan/Ellie's arc has a better build-up than Dylan/Sophia's.

 

[XaGnard]

Ok, you're injecting your opinion here, which is irrelevant based on how the author describes his nove/game and writes in that format. Again, It doesn't matter if you think it's fiction or realistic. He's basing the writing of this story on how he perceives world events take place. That is the foundation of his writing, why he is under the mindset that his story is "realistic," and why he describes it that way.

That is twisted logic. If someone says something obviously wrong, it does not become more correct if his statement is made about something he himself has made or created. L&P may have tried to create something real world realistic, but he did not achieved it. This is the crucial point and something that L&P cannot evaluate better than, for example, a player.

Whoever comes along and pretends that it makes sense to measure a porn game against the real world, will only make the same mistake as L&P and will achieve nothing. The only important thing is if a porn game follows the rules established in the game itself. This is what makes a coherent story and I think this is the highest level of realism a porn game can strive for.

There have been members here that challenge his writing style, only to have him explain what he is writing is "realistic." Have you ever spoken or written to him and challenged his writing or asked him questions about why certain things happen that don't have any logic to them?

No, and I don't intend to. I see in L&P someone who has an eye for good renderings and can write a story that is a good deal above the garbage that is normaly seen here. At the same time, I think he overestimates himself. Other than that, I don't care about what L&P thinks. I think the game is good, I don't care about the rest.

Why do you think I don't like the incest kink with Sophia/Dylan??? You need to go back and read some of my past comments from 2018 before you make that comment.

To give you a short version of Sophia/Dylan's story arc. Sophia never displays any physical attraction towards Dylan until this evening part one event. Everything else was designed for one thing, "SEX-ED," which she even displayed in the bathroom with Dylan. He jammed a build-up event in part 1 when he should have played the build-up out over multiple PDs instead of just one event. Whereas you can see and read a chronological build-up of Ellie and Sam's arc with Sophia.

Well, then I may have made a mistake. But I'm not completely convinced, because I notice how much you highlight Dylan, even though his story is just as real world unrealistic as Ellie's, for example.

Also, Don't forget the event in the park, when Dylan stands protectively in front of Sophia and fight one of the guys. In the porn game world, this is more than equivalent to a Sam who can just play good music.

Again, regardless of whether it makes no sense or does make sense, it's irrelevant based on my first comment above.

No, In relation to a discussion that we both have, only what we both think is relevant. Especially since I don't have a high opinion of L&P. L&P can decide how he creates his game, but not what others think about his game. As I said, I think you are making a logical mistake in this point.

There are a couple of arcs I'm interested in, which are Dylan, Ellie, and Patricia, but I do play the story unchained to help me understand how the author writes his story. And right now, Sophia/Dylan's story has issues that should have been addressed when he removed "The Twist" a couple of years ago but chose to keep most of it intact.

Currently, I see Dylan/Ellie's arc has a better build-up than Dylan/Sophia's.

I look forward to more events between Dylan and Ellie. Ultimately, I like stories with lots of entanglements, and I see even greater potential here as in the story between Dylan/Sophia or Ellie/Sophia. However, i also think the Dylan story has a lot of potential in the voyeur path. I don't see a particular issue in Dylan's story. What do you mean exactly?

 

[Deleted member 5533454]

Hope one day dream came true
Dylan and sam
Mission Impossible
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Safe to say, this ain't happening ever. LP adores Sophia so much that he will die a thousand deaths before including something like this in the game. This dream will remain a dream. If this ever happens I will consider it the greatest miracle in human history

 

[chris18911]

Great game

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

That is twisted logic. If someone says something obviously wrong, it does not become more correct if his statement is made about something he himself has made or created. L&P may have tried to create something real world realistic, but he did not achieved it. This is the crucial point and something that L&P cannot evaluate better than, for example, a player.

Whoever comes along and pretends that it makes sense to measure a porn game against the real world, will only make the same mistake as L&P and will achieve nothing. The only important thing is if a porn game follows the rules established in the game itself. This is what makes a coherent story and I think this is the highest level of realism a porn game can strive for.

That is not twisted logic because your opinion will not change how he thinks about how he is writing his story or describing it. You can disagree with it, but again it doesn't change the fact that he believes he is writing something in terms of "realistic" and is sharing as a "realistic" AV.

Your opinion is altering the foundation of how he describes his AV so you can enjoy it as a Porn Game.

This is why I send him questions about certain things in the game that I question are realistic because although my opinion is the "realistic" train left the station long ago, I would like to know how he came to believe that what he wrote is realistic.

No, and I don't intend to. I see in L&P someone who has an eye for good renderings and can write a story that is a good deal above the garbage that is normaly seen here. At the same time, I think he overestimates himself. Other than that, I don't care about what L&P thinks. I think the game is good, I don't care about the rest.

Again an opinion; you won't understand the mindset he used to write his story and why he uses the choice of words like "realistic" to describe his story. As I said in another post, readers who read his about page will use that as a foundation of what to expect in the story.

However, if you don't ask or question him about it, that is your choice.

Well, then I may have made a mistake. But I'm not completely convinced, because I notice how much you highlight Dylan, even though his story is just as real world unrealistic as Ellie's, for example.

Also, Don't forget the event in the park, when Dylan stands protectively in front of Sophia and fight one of the guys. In the porn game world, this is more than equivalent to a Sam who can just play good music.

Did you read my comment about Dylan and Ellie? It wasn't about realism. It was about a chronological sequence of events to allow the reader to understand how the character went from point A to point B. Sophia/Ellie's and Sophia/Sam's arcs clearly show a path of attraction with them and why it leads to where it is now in their arc. However, with Dylan, this is no sequence. I used this pattern in past postings to explain how their story is being told.

Sophia/Ellie - 1.2.3.4.5.6.7.6
Sophia/Sam - 1.2.3.4.5.6.7.6

Sophia/Dylan - 1.2.1.2.1.2.1.2.5.1..... 5 = PD 13 Event 1

No, In relation to a discussion that we both have, only what we both think is relevant. Especially since I don't have a high opinion of L&P. L&P can decide how he creates his game, but not what others think about his game. As I said, I think you are making a logical mistake in this point.

I have to disagree with your assessment here. My logic is on point; I'm just not allowing my opinion to alter it. This is why I question his writing and have him explain to me why he wrote it in the manner he did, so it comes from him directly, which helps me understand how he writes.

I look forward to more events between Dylan and Ellie. Ultimately, I like stories with lots of entanglements, and I see even greater potential here as in the story between Dylan/Sophia or Ellie/Sophia. However, i also think the Dylan story has a lot of potential in the voyeur path. I don't see a particular issue in Dylan's story. What do you mean exactly?

The story will grow, but how much sense will it make when it grows with Sophia/Dylan? I only see major plot holes forming or getting larger. I believe this is the remnants of "The Twist" that he removed, and now he's trying to write a story that fits the new narrative. He changed the dynamics of Dylan's character, as it was believed at the time of The Twist, from an antagonist to something else not to upset the Sophia/Dylan fans.

 

[XaGnard]

That is not twisted logic because your opinion will not change how he thinks about how he is writing his story or describing it. You can disagree with it, but again it doesn't change the fact that he believes he is writing something in terms of "realistic" and is sharing as a "realistic" AV.

Your opinion is altering the foundation of how he describes his AV so you can enjoy it as a Porn Game.

This is why I send him questions about certain things in the game that I question are realistic because although my opinion is the "realistic" train left the station long ago, I would like to know how he came to believe that what he wrote is realistic.



Again an opinion; you won't understand the mindset he used to write his story and why he uses the choice of words like "realistic" to describe his story. As I said in another post, readers who read his about page will use that as a foundation of what to expect in the story.

However, if you don't ask or question him about it, that is your choice.



Did you read my comment about Dylan and Ellie? It wasn't about realism. It was about a chronological sequence of events to allow the reader to understand how the character went from point A to point B. Sophia/Ellie's and Sophia/Sam's arcs clearly show a path of attraction with them and why it leads to where it is now in their arc. However, with Dylan, this is no sequence. I used this pattern in past postings to explain how their story is being told.

Sophia/Ellie - 1.2.3.4.5.6.7.6
Sophia/Sam - 1.2.3.4.5.6.7.6

Sophia/Dylan - 1.2.1.2.1.2.1.2.5.1..... 5 = PD 13 Event 1



I have to disagree with your assessment here. My logic is on point; I'm just not allowing my opinion to alter it. This is why I question his writing and have him explain to me why he wrote it in the manner he did, so it comes from him directly, which helps me understand how he writes.



The story will grow, but how much sense will it make when it grows with Sophia/Dylan? I only see major plot holes forming or getting larger. I believe this is the remnants of "The Twist" that he removed, and now he's trying to write a story that fits the new narrative. He changed the dynamics of Dylan's character, as it was believed at the time of The Twist, from an antagonist to something else not to upset the Sophia/Dylan fans.

I think I understand now what you mean by the twist. Is it that Dylan was once supposed to have worked together with Aiden? If so, then I must say that I also found this idea better. This is mainly because I like interwoven stories and Aiden comes across too unbelievable in the current version. If he had worked with Dylan, then it would have been possible to make the story more plausible, I think. Just Aiden alone, is a too weak character and Sophia drawn to smart by L&P to fall for his game. Without Dylan, if Aiden wanted to succeed with his approach, he'd need a way more serious aura. But there is nothing of that to be seen. Here I somehow miss the explanation for why Sophia just gives in.

In the current version of the Dylan story, however, I see no problem with this adjustment. Dylan's idea to ask Sophia for some exercises fits perfectly. Sophia is a teacher and he obviously needs tutoring. Perfect fit. If this means some fun for her too, even better. This results in a coherent storyline from the beginning, even if it is of course completely bogus from a real-world perspective. Furthermore, one has to consider that Dylan protected her in the park. As I said, normaly, in a porn game, that carries a lot of weight. As I said, I don't expect AWAM's story to work in the real world. Exaggerated realism is something that, in my view, has no place in a porn game. The important thing is that the story is interesting and that something happens at some point.

 

[Coachsophia45H]

Sophia look like Bollywood actress

 

[Coachsophia45H]

 

[Milflover1010]

When again we gets to see sophia in gym or beach as it's is a reality based games were the protagonist do all the daily chores and so on like an holiday trip or Weeknd fun or the park event?