VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

Before moving on to other issues, I need to remind of verified facts so far. I know this is stupid but feel necessary because there will be surely other idiotic claims on this matter.

Troll's claims:

• A novice with 50 hours on DAZ would achieve L&P's rendering quality.
• L&P's scene creating and rendering would not take more than 30-120 minutes.
• L&P must have been lying about his work and milking his patreons.

Verified facts:

• L&P's rendering quality is a lot better than the other top dev's (verified by nexer) and is achieved with repeated revision process (by dev) and various maps of each asset (by nexer).
• L&P's rendering quality takes a lot more time than the other dev's (by nexer).
• L&P has been truthful about his work process and time.

No one believes that shit buttlicker.

Regarding the so called troll claim, no one said those first two points. And if that's what you interpreted even after screenshots of posts of that very same novice saying it wasn't at the same level, then go get your head checked or maybe try to be a better person, someone with a hint of honesty is enough.



Regarding the third point, L&P was caught lying here in the very same day. He confuses himself with all the lies he tells, poor guy.



Now go back to your main account L&P.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

NO, it's not that it consumes more time, that's the effect, the cause is the higher quality of the product.



Now, are we talking game mechanics? OK.
In terms of quality, L&P wins.
Admit that for some renders you do better than DPC



My opinion.
DPC or a member of his team makes the assets, according to taste and need. Not interested in details or quality.
Hence bad topology, mediocre UVs, lack of detail, same textures used repeatedly and overuse of solid colors.

L&P "buys" professionally made assets, with varied textures, with mappings.

I'd call DPC a cheapskate

DPC almost spends as much in music as L&P makes from his VN, let that sink in that brain of yours.
We're comparing both devs products. DPC has a way better product, that's why he has his games on steam and 10x the patrons L&P has.

Also try to get a spine. All shit talk behind closed doors and when L&P shows up you bend over.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

It is ultimately the question why does he engage the trolls and ignore the interested?

Because any valid question from a patron about the absolute 100% certainty this vn won't ever be finished would require L&P to either lie or admit this won't ever be finished.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

I've stayed out of the arguments about render quality because I wouldn't really know what I was talking about after the first couple of sentences. Also, I can't compare games when I don't play them. I CAN see everyone's POV from a neutral stance. So, here's a thought & it's strictly a personal opinion but I couldn't care less about animations, or put more positively, I can take them, or leave them.

How much do they add to the story? Most animations seem to be BJ's, or straightforward shagging. If you've seen one or two, you've seen them all. They are anything but essential. AWAM's lack of moving pictures doesn't lessen my enjoyment of the game at all. Those elements that do are well documented....by me.

IMO AWAM doesn't need ANIMS.

You guys better hope L&P won't ever do animations else you're going to be loking at 15 months for 1 third of the day update.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

Sometimes you spend more time but the final product is worse. It happens.
What I want to hear from you is that the quality of the product delivered by L&P is superior to DPC. Renders quality.
That's all

The product of DPC is his games. The product of L&P is his VN.
Based on how many people support one and the other, their rating, their publishing.. It's not hard to figure out who has the better product.
L&P isn't the only one with better renders than DPC. Stopper also has better renders. There's actually at least 5 games/VNS with better renders. Does it make them a better game? No.
That's why one has enough support to spend L&Ps networth in music for his products that go on the most popular game distributors platform in the world.

At this point not sure if you're trolling or if you're straight up not all there.

 

[AchedCroissant]

A well made door gives realism to the scene, and what I don't understand is: why with so much money earned he doesn't buy assets made by professionals?

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[L&P's Father-in-Law]

A well made door gives realism to the scene, and what I don't understand is: why with so much money earned he doesn't buy assets made by professionals?

Lmao. Makes as much realism as a leg stuck on a table. In the end what does it matter on both occasions? Absolutely 0.
Only autistic people will look at that door and think "WHAT IS THAT? THAT ISN'T A DOOR.. THAT IS A WALL. AHHH THIS GAME WITH TONS OF SEX BETWEEN 3D RENDERED PEOPLE IS NOT REAL AFTER ALL"

You know what might break realism? The MC changing faces, boob size etc throughout the whole fucking game.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

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And the good thing about those is that they don't change their face in each chapter.

 

[palmtrees89]

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My thoughts exactly, but I feel like he's somewhere else with his head. No clue why someone would be so obsessed with doors, but I hear there's people out there being sexually attracted to buildings, so who knows.

 

[AchedCroissant]

And the good thing about those is that they don't change their face in each chapter.

I remember a scene unfortunately I do not have the game on the PC since I deleted it but it was when Sophia was walking in the hall where the rooms are and I did not understand why it was so big... I mean easily several cars can park there

My thoughts exactly, but I feel like he's somewhere else with his head. No clue why someone would be so obsessed with doors, but I hear there's people out there being sexually attracted to buildings, so who knows.

If you think about how long I've been waiting for Sophia to fuck Ellie, one reaches a point where the door looks hot

 

[Deleted member 3966947]

Sometimes you spend more time but the final product is worse. It happens.
What I want to hear from you is that the quality of the product delivered by L&P is superior to DPC. Renders quality.
That's all

Face it, nexer. Nobody in BD thread likes you saying that AWAM render quality is better than BD's, just like people in AWAM thread.

 

[momojean]

Before moving on to other issues, I need to remind of verified facts so far. I know this is stupid but feel necessary because there will be surely other idiotic claims on this matter.

Troll's claims:

• A novice with 50 hours on DAZ would achieve L&P's rendering quality.
• L&P's scene creating and rendering would not take more than 30-120 minutes.
• L&P must have been lying about his work and milking his patreons.

Verified facts:

• L&P's rendering quality is a lot better than the other top dev's (verified by nexer) and is achieved with repeated revision process (by dev) and various maps of each asset (by nexer).
• L&P's rendering quality takes a lot more time than the other dev's (by nexer).
• L&P has been truthful about his work process and time.

Personally, I learned one thing during the last intervention of L&P the guy who seems to be aging without becoming an adult. It is that there are people here who suffer from masochism and slavery. This kid (apparently 33 years old) only replied to Viper's posts and also to mine. We "detractors" and "haters"!

You and the other defendants have addressed him personally and everyone here now knows that he reads every post on this thread. You looked so shabby and miserable praying to him and worshiping him while praising his great work. But he did not deign to speak to you worshipers. What humiliation !!!

The only time he answered was to tell you that if you want answers write him an e-mail. And be sure that if you are not a supporter he will never answer you. Which implies that if you want Big Baby to talk to you you will have to pay because there is no time to waste with pirates (that's what he thinks of you).

But the amazing thing about all of this is that even though he treated you like rotten fish, you keep licking his boots indefinitely and unconditionally regardless of the affronts you suffer from him. And what makes you endure all of this? Some high quality renders!!!

Don't you think it's time to show a minimum of dignity and self-esteem in front of someone who's been laughing at you for four years and who shows you no respect?

 

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[TheFapperBoy]

L&P's renders are truly beautiful, and have really gotten better over time. It's not a surprise that updates take as long as they do given that fact. My issue has always been that if render times are that high; you'd think L&P would try to condense the story, and it's events to a more reasonable amount. I wouldn't mind the slow burn in Ellies, or Dylans stories if there weren't 20 other routes to worry about. I would love to see Sophia in all these different situations, but what I would love even more would be to see these stories reach their climax.

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

L&P's rant is another matter. I am not defending him for that.

You seem to know a lot of things from your experience and your area of expertises. Like that, this is another area I know and these verification are not really necessary for me from my experience. But you don't know and may not trust me, so I hope these verification from nexer's posts would be enough for you. If not, follow nexer's posts today. If still not, I think you may have made your mind already. In that case, no verification would be enough for you.

https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-130-lust-passion.5944/post-6734003
https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-130-lust-passion.5944/post-6734067
https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-130-lust-passion.5944/post-6735299
https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-130-lust-passion.5944/post-6735368

Sorry,Nexer is invisible to me. DOH!

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

Personally, I learned one thing during the last intervention of L&P the guy who seems to be aging without becoming an adult. It is that there are people here who suffer from masochism and slavery. This kid (apparently 33 years old) only replied to Viper's posts and also to mine. We "detractors" and "haters"!

You and the other defendants have addressed him personally and everyone here now knows that he reads every post on this thread. You looked so shabby and miserable praying to him and worshiping him while praising his great work. But he did not deign to speak to you worshipers. What humiliation !!!

The only time he answered was to tell you that if you want answers write him an e-mail. And be sure that if you are not a supporter he will never answer you. Which implies that if you want Big Baby to talk to you you will have to pay because there is no time to waste with pirates (that's what he thinks of you).

But the amazing thing about all of this is that even though he treated you like rotten fish, you keep licking his boots indefinitely and unconditionally regardless of the affronts you suffer from him. And what makes you endure all of this? Some high quality renders!!!

Don't you think it's time to show a minimum of dignity and self-esteem in front of someone who's been laughing at you for four years and who shows you no respect?

I disagree with your assertion that only you and Viper are free in mind and soul. Your very hatred of this dev indicates you suffer a different form of compulsion or devotion. If you hate it so much why waste the time. I know you have better things to do. You sure are not changing any minds here through derision.

As far as 'licking his boots' it has been my observation that most here are very disappointed in the devs communications and in the production rate. Some are satisfied it meets their needs for the time being. That ain't licking. It is a judgement they make for themselves for their situation. Something each of us, (you, me, everyone) is completely insular in determining.

For myself, I have challenged him several times recently for his communications and total failure to seize an opportunity. I doubt his honesty completely and have said as much. I like his artwork and parts of his story, not all. I have been consistent in this challenge.

There are many who, in one way or another, bring these questions as we wait to see if he improves his work results (rate). If all you can do is deride others you waste your time.

 

[Bishop Robert]

There’s a number of characters that could be “fused” in my opinion:
Oldmen/mail man

Wtf is the matter with you trying to fuse our Mighty Courier with the old men?

Shame on you!

 

[palmtrees89]

Face it, nexer. Nobody in BD thread likes you saying that AWAM render quality is better than BD's, just like people in AWAM thread.

I'm totally okay with AWAM's render quality being better in some areas, especially in recent updates. But you seem completely oblivious to the points people are making here, including mine. You either ignore everything that's been said, or you're too busy kneeling infront of L&P. A game does not only consist of renders. You don't play renders, you play a game. And no, that does not mean AWAM is a bad game.

 

[Bishop Robert]

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Alyssa Really want to suck it .

Best. Scene.

 

[Bishop Robert]

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What game are they from?