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VN Ren'Py Abandoned Acquainted [Ch. 1 v0.1.0] [Yuno Gasai]

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humanstickobserver

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I wanted to add two things I forgot:

First, I love the ex's design. Games with characters with an injury like hers are rare, and I like seeing a character who, based on appearances, doesn't let such an issue take away from her self image. Especially when such a physical flaw is used well, such that it, if anything, seems to highlight how beautiful she otherwise is. Think Ciri from witcher 3, or the one girl from Summer's Gone (damn, I really am terrible with names of characters once I stop playing, it seems...)
So, it's a shame I'm really not into her, as presented as a character. But I've seen some people seem really put off by her eye, and... well, I'm not. I think it was a strong, artistic decision.

Second, some people take issue with the unavoidable scene at the open. I get why people don't like unavoidable scenes, and why they don't like dream scenes. Dreams are used too much to put lewd content into a game when a dev is doing a slower burn, in order to have tits in the early released. It's an overused trope, and not actually germane to the plot. And players like having the ability to choose whether or not they want to see certain scenes.
But in this case, I think both criticisms are dead wrong. A large part of the plot we are given so far revolves around the dream, both the girl, and the content of it. MC doesn't know who she is. He doesn't know why he dreams of her every night. He doesn't know why the dreams are sexual. And the dream stands out among all the rest he's had for years, with her giving her name in it.
With the Kiiara, the sexual nature of the dreams, and the persistence of the dreams themselves all being very important to the game's story, by all appearances, I don't think criticism laid at their feet, whether being unavoidable, or a dream sequence, really holds all that much water, when compared to the vast majority of the times such a complaint is made in other games.
 
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Initial thoughts:
-Beautiful renders, incredibly smooth animation
-Girl with a mask! COVID reaches the gaming world.
-There's a girl with a blind eye from a scar and another with a freakin' GLASGOW SMILE. I should be repulsed a bit and maybe rolling my eyes at an artist trying too hard to make interesting characters, but am instead INTRIGUED. It's not overdoing it if it's done WELL.
--AND the girl with the scar is the MC's ex. I'VE NEVER FELT SO COOL IN MY LIFE.
---...Which is kind of sad.
-Why are the MCs in these games always friends with an annoying douche?
 
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gene/eous/lyneous

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humanstickobserver said:
I wanted to add two things I forgot:

First, I love the ex's design. Games with characters with an injury like hers are rare, and I like seeing a character who, based on appearances, doesn't let such an issue take away from her self image. Especially when such a physical flaw is used well, such that it, if anything, seems to highlight how beautiful she otherwise is. Think Ciri from witcher 3, or the one girl from Summer's Gone (damn, I really am terrible with names of characters once I stop playing, it seems...)
So, it's a shame I'm really not into her, as presented as a character. But I've seen some people seem really put off by her eye, and... well, I'm not. I think it was a strong, artistic decision.

Second, some people take issue with the unavoidable scene at the open. I get why people don't like unavoidable scenes, and why they don't like dream scenes. Dreams are used too much to put lewd content into a game when a dev is doing a slower burn, in order to have tits in the early released. It's an overused trope, and not actually germane to the plot. And players like having the ability to choose whether or not they want to see certain scenes.
But in this case, I think both criticisms are dead wrong. A large part of the plot we are given so far revolves around the dream, both the girl, and the content of it. MC doesn't know who she is. He doesn't know why he dreams of her every night. He doesn't know why the dreams are sexual. And the dream stands out among all the rest he's had for years, with her giving her name in it.
With the Kiiara, the sexual nature of the dreams, and the persistence of the dreams themselves all being very important to the game's story, by all appearances, I don't think criticism laid at their feet, whether being unavoidable, or a dream sequence, really holds all that much water, when compared to the vast majority of the times such a complaint is made in other games.
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People (like myself) don't like unavoidable scences because they take away from the point of vns. My ability to change the storyline based on my preferences, and what I want my game experience to be, is crucial for vn success. CHOICE is imperative, If I wanted to experience a story that I have no control over, I would just go watch a movie. Vns aren't movies, they're video games. unavoidable scenes take indviduals out of the immersion, the exact opposite of what you want.
 
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gene/eous/lyneous said:
People (like myself) don't like unavoidable scences because they take away from the point of vns. My ability to change the storyline based on my preferences, and what I want my game experience to be, is crucial for vn success. CHOICE is imperative, If I wanted to experience a story that I have no control over, I would just go watch a movie. Vns aren't movies, they're video games. unavoidable scenes take indviduals out of the immersion, the exact opposite of what you want.
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How is "a scene where you have sex and "meet" a mysterious woman important for the story" different than "a scene where a college boy wakes up and goes to college the first time" when both have no choice?

If that scene were later in the game without the player having a say in it you might be correct.
But here the scene "simply" is a variation of an intro to the story like almost all other VN's have. It's "only" that this intro contains sex.

If you resent not skippable scenes so much you apparently have to hate 99.995% of the VN's on this forum alone.
 
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gene/eous/lyneous said:
People (like myself) don't like unavoidable scences because they take away from the point of vns. My ability to change the storyline based on my preferences, and what I want my game experience to be, is crucial for vn success. CHOICE is imperative, If I wanted to experience a story that I have no control over, I would just go watch a movie. Vns aren't movies, they're video games. unavoidable scenes take indviduals out of the immersion, the exact opposite of what you want.
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I get that. That's the problem. My point was that the unavoidable scene is a dream, and it's used tgo establish the plot.

As much as dream sequences are usually bad, they don't effect the plot... and unless the MC is a ludic dreamer, they wouldn't have much say in a dream anyhow.
And it is literally the first thing that happens in the game. What is the point to avoid it, when you don't know any characters, plot, or other information?

I DESPISE when a game forces you into unavoidable scenes, 99% of the time. But a dream (meaning the event didn't actually happen) that is the literal first thing you see in the game... and where the MC ponders over that dream in a way that suggests it is relevant to the plot that will be develop, seems a very weird thing to get bent out of shape over.

If it were the sister's camgirl friend, or the ex's friend, or peeking on mom, etc, that you were forced to do, I would 100% be on your side. But every encounter with girls that are in the real world, we are given control over our actions, not no choice or false choice. I mean, sure, we have to go to their houses... but we aren't forced to continue the scenes in any way.

Judging with how every prospective scene has been handled thus far, I expect it likely the dev will keep that up.... including with the girl from the dream, when we interact with her IRL.

I'm not trying to be a dick. I just genuinely do not understand why a dream sequence has people so bent out of shape for being an "unavoidable scene."
 
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humanstickobserver said:
I get that. That's the problem. My point was that the unavoidable scene is a dream, and it's used tgo establish the plot.

As much as dream sequences are usually bad, they don't effect the plot... and unless the MC is a ludic dreamer, they wouldn't have much say in a dream anyhow.
And it is literally the first thing that happens in the game. What is the point to avoid it, when you don't know any characters, plot, or other information?

I DESPISE when a game forces you into unavoidable scenes, 99% of the time. But a dream (meaning the event didn't actually happen) that is the literal first thing you see in the game... and where the MC ponders over that dream in a way that suggests it is relevant to the plot that will be develop, seems a very weird thing to get bent out of shape over.

If it were the sister's camgirl friend, or the ex's friend, or peeking on mom, etc, that you were forced to do, I would 100% be on your side. But every encounter with girls that are in the real world, we are given control over our actions, not no choice or false choice. I mean, sure, we have to go to their houses... but we aren't forced to continue the scenes in any way.

Judging with how every prospective scene has been handled thus far, I expect it likely the dev will keep that up.... including with the girl from the dream, when we interact with her IRL.

I'm not trying to be a dick. I just genuinely do not understand why a dream sequence has people so bent out of shape for being an "unavoidable scene."
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I suppose it's just the principal. The dream implies character attraction that the player themselves might not hold. But if that is just the plot, not much you can do. As long as the dev allows for ample space to break off from that path of course.
 
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Brannon said:
How is "a scene where you have sex and "meet" a mysterious woman important for the story" different than "a scene where a college boy wakes up and goes to college the first time" when both have no choice?

If that scene were later in the game without the player having a say in it you might be correct.
But here the scene "simply" is a variation of an intro to the story like almost all other VN's have. It's "only" that this intro contains sex.

If you resent not skippable scenes so much you apparently have to hate 99.995% of the VN's on this forum alone.
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Wtf are you talking about? Did you quote the wrong person? I don't play 99% of the vns on this forum since 99% of the vns on this forum are shit.
 
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The first scene turns out to be a dream, so if I'm not excited about having to give points to a girl I don't know who she is, even less so if it's during a dream. Which means that we either have the scene giving points to the "LI?" or we have the same without giving them. I'm annoyed enough to don't give them, to skip the scene (rather not watch it much, because skipping it isn't possible) and make sure that I never give her points.
 
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Ive just finish playing now. Such a good game. The Renders are really good and the end i wasnt expecting. This is going on a good path
 
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