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Brannon

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All we need is honesty and transparency. See now everyone is calmer with the dev having released some info.
A bit.

Not much, though.
I personally can't shake a dreadful feeling in the back of my head.



BD released some info on WVM a couple of times as well and it still took him multiple public outcries and patron vanishings on top of three years to get to the actual selling point of his AVN. And his story is not even a third done ...

Not saying Yuno will be a second (or at this point ~ twelfth) BD. Just saying that I'm not as calm as I'd like thinking about this game.
 

hydrang3a

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Not much, though.
BD released some info on WVM a couple of times as well and it still took him multiple public outcries and patron vanishings on top of three years to get to the actual selling point of his AVN. And his story is not even a third done ...
I mean yeah. If we get updates every week but the progress is unberably slow, then its the same problem but the other way around. I would much prefer that to nothing though, at least you know its being worked on rather than dreading for three months to pass for the abandoned tag.

It's a balance to mantain, but others have done it, it's not rocket science.
 

XV71

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Can't shake the feeling in the back of my mind this will be another victim to the abandoned list after 2 or 3 updates, I've become a bit of a pessimist on this site with the good games that have been abandoned, if a game looks too good to be true, it usually is.
 

vaxo

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Dec 3, 2017
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Well, i hate playing unfinished projects. Especially if that's the first release and even more, if it's a good looking one. I'm not going to try it but already watching, it looks perfect. Hope it will get "Completed" tag in the end and not "Abandoned". Will play after 1-2- update when the story will have enough time to set up something meaningful. Gl to dev.
 
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whity112

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Can't shake the feeling in the back of my mind this will be another victim to the abandoned list after 2 or 3 updates, I've become a bit of a pessimist on this site with the good games that have been abandoned, if a game looks too good to be true, it usually is.
the crazy think is that this would of been a huge hit. still on the first release and hit 238 patrons what a wasted opportunity
 

vivaloveyou

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Few games have released the first version to get so many customers, indicating that the game is very attractive, however, the update time is a bit long
 

AngelsAfterDark

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Can't shake the feeling in the back of my mind this will be another victim to the abandoned list after 2 or 3 updates, I've become a bit of a pessimist on this site with the good games that have been abandoned, if a game looks too good to be true, it usually is.
More like if it's a story driven game then it gets abandoned. This is a porn game site after all so unfortunately fuckfests are more in demand than story focused games with realistic characters and such. It's the reason why I don't even play VNs that much these days. Like i keep a look out for updates of well supported games like Being a dik, Summer's Gone, where it all began, City of broken dreamers and games alike that are heavily story driven and not porn focused. But there are so few of em that are actually doing well support wise, and don't have the inevitable "abondoned" tag written all over them that it makes it hard to get invested cause they'll eventually be abandoned,so why even bother.
 

JB08

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Glad this isnt abandoned. Just removed a bunch of games I liked that ended up abandoned. Acquainted so far is my most looked forward to game.
 

Gwedelino

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You know, I started thinking about it and we actually have no idea how long it took him to create that initial release. Or at the very least, I don't fucking know lol.

What if this is his usual pace? Not saying that's a good thing but I'm just saying I personally jumped the gun because it's such a given these days for new devs to come out with a second release in 6 months or less unless something unforeseen happens. In reality, I didn't have a base rate for my expectations.

Long dev times don't necessarily cause a huge negative impact towards my opinion on the game itself but it definitely hampers my interest. It's the difference between one of my favorites that I'd follow fanatically (and sometimes even support) or just one I'll forget about it for a while and play if I happen to come across an update as a pleasant surprise.
Problem being that the very first updates are always crucial if one want to build momentum around their game. A lot of people on this thread mentionned that.

One trick that devs should follow is to always have 1 or 2 updates ready to go before they launch the very first build.
This allows devs to launch their first updates within a reasonable timing, while also avoiding any big delay if something bad happens. Then devs should always try to have at least one update in advance during the whole development of the game.

I know that it's easier said than done but that's what should be done.
 
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Joshy92

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Hey guys don't know if i should play this i like the blonde that's in the third picture on the front page but can't see her in the banner is she a side character?
 

SamualHand

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I know that it's easier said than done but that's what should be done.
Yes and game companies should have their game finished before they announce it, so they are ready in time!
The big question that you need to answer: "How are they earning money, while working on something they aren't paid for?" Because it's easy to do, if someone is giving the money.
Or imagine the feedback if they need / want to rework something and 2 other updates are already finished.... yes, great idea! "Nah we appreciate your feedback, but we can't tell you that updates 1 & 2 are already finished and we are working on update 3 which will be released in 16 month. We agree with your feedback, but there is no chance we can implement it in the next 16 month. Just be patient, it might seem we are ignorant, but in reality we listened to @Gwedelino."
 

Gwedelino

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Yes and game companies should have their game finished before they announce it, so they are ready in time!
The big question that you need to answer: "How are they earning money, while working on something they aren't paid for?" Because it's easy to do, if someone is giving the money.
Or imagine the feedback if they need / want to rework something and 2 other updates are already finished.... yes, great idea! "Nah we appreciate your feedback, but we can't tell you that updates 1 & 2 are already finished and we are working on update 3 which will be released in 16 month. We agree with your feedback, but there is no chance we can implement it in the next 16 month. Just be patient, it might seem we are ignorant, but in reality we listened to @Gwedelino."
Money is of course a problem since usually people don't support project that didn't get an initial release yet.
So yeah, a dev who is waiting to complete 1/2 updates before releasing the very first demo will have to wait longer before starting to get money. This also mean that the initial investment on this game project will be bigger.

However, this can sometimes draw a line between viable projects and those that won't last long.

Any developer that start a porngame project must keep in mind that :

- There is very little chance that their project will be profitable,
- one does not build a professional career around it.

Competition is so hard that devs must seek to maximize their chances if they hope to earn anything through their game.

And in the end, what's better ?

- Having tougher months at the beginning, but putting all its chances on its side in the long run.
- Going for the quicker release, but taking high risks if any big problem occurs.


Regarding feedback, the easier solution is to have playtesters. it's an extra charge, but it's really not the most time-consuming or expensive.

This doesn't work very well for developers that want to let their supporters "vote" about which kind of content will be in the next updates, but to be honest, devs who are in that kind of situation only show that their game has no planning and that the story of their game won't really be interesting.
 

Jordanskene01

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Ok i'm gonna be honest
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Don't worry you're not alone I think the majority of people even some of those who didn't necessarily like her are disappointed as well. I know I'm disappointed as she was my favourite so I hope it's not true. IDK if this is what @Yuno Gasai is doing with the character assuming the rumours are true but to me it seems like they might be tryna get back players who won't Romance Maeve for certain reasons since the Purple Haired Chick and Maeve give me similar vibes.

That's not necessarily a bad thing as having a character to get back those players can be a good idea but that 50 or so percent of players you lose because of Maeve's role and then gain back with that other character would obviously still be less then the ones you lose if you remove Katrine as you then lose the majority of people who like the Shy Girl Trope.

Unless of course Katrine is just some sort of shapeshifter who can change how she looks then that would explain the radical change in looks haha :ROFLMAO:
 
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4.30 star(s) 77 Votes