StingerWolf
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Since even Cloudlet could continue his VN, there might be hope for this one, albeit rather little.
- Thread starter Yuno Gasai
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I think i said it before as i read it somewhere, he took 2yrs for episode 1, most of the time he took for make it perfection
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Well, he has only 220 Patreons. That's not much money. He could get many more if he made updates. With every update a dev gets more Patreons.
Brannon
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There is a slight difference between having a good reputation amongst current/possible patrons for some time and having a bad reputation amongst current/possible patrons forever.
Developers who do that shit can try what they want, but they'll never be trusted again by most people.
Meaning the dev could do this once and never again. Plus all other projects s/he does in the future is treated the same.
The process you said works, but is hell of a lot inconvenient and destroys the developers future.
Even if s/he hides under a different name, that shit always comes back to bite him/her.
Since Yuno already is established as an artist and I'd guess he has an IQ above room temperature I don't see that in this case.
I agree. I know a dev who has an IQ below the temp of Antartica and still makes a killing at milking. Although, his Patreon has dwindled quite a bit over the years. So, now he releases psychedelic monstrosities and calls them updates that has nothing to do with the original game he released.
Brannon
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As said, it does work.
For some completely stupid reason or another the dev you are talking about still "clings on" with doing it.
Thing is he has destroyed his reputation while doing so.
For a successful milking endeavour Yuno has to few patrons since over the course of it the patrons are almost guaranteed to dwindle in numbers when an update is not in sight.
Meaning even if he would be milking, what he likely is not for reasons I described, it would be next to ineffective while at the same time effectively killing all his future projects.
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Aldnoah Zero
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There are indeed Devs who create games/vns above average and stop right from the beginning..
There are several reasons, but the most common ones:
If you get a lot of attention, you get a lot of sponsorship and for a long time people will continue to pay in hopes of an update... which may never come (intentional or not)
There are those who expect success like a certain ICS..
And that your first VN will pay off all the debts and make up for working only on that. (and the dreamer unfortunately recognizes in a few months that it wasn't quite like that) and quit.
Some exaggerated the quality in the first ep so much that it becomes impractical to assemble and render 4K an ep in a few months..
Not necessarily, some assets in many VNs are bought (from Daz Studio to Renderotica or even Renderhub) even characters with some cosmetic changes..are used..
It's rare for a VN with assets entirely made in Blender or Daz Studio by the same DEV.
That said, there's no way to say that something made by dev X can't be copied by Z (with rare cases)
If you look around here, some fan made ones look very similar to their originals.
Yes, your artistic name ends up burned, but nothing prevents you from starting with another name or outsourced worker on some other project.
You will hardly see a Dev openly attack another here... and wash dirty linen.(so how are you going to recognize that he changed his name, if even those who know him won't say anything?)
Ps. before anyone thinks it's a direct attack on this DEV, they're wrong, I speak in general.. (until I regret that the vn is stopped)
Brannon
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That a dev returns with a new name or is using outsourced work gets known 99 out of 100 times.
Sometimes it is discovered by the art style.
Sometimes it is discovered by the writing style.
Sometimes it is discovered by data found on twitter/discord/steam/gaylordsunite.
There are next to no instances where a dev in the long run would get away with shit like lying/milking.
He or she will always need to be weary of his or her new projects and is expecting for his or her path to catch up.
Karma is a bitch.
And she ALWAYS is coming for you.
tydog99
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Those games, like BAD or SG, have developers very active with the community providing updates weekly and never going radio silent. Those games also take that long because the updates are large. People are waiting for the follow up to a short first episode of this game, and the developer has been basically silent. It's not comparable to established games with frequent progress updates.
It's also been almost 9 months at this point so ...
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What is the actual progress on the next update?
StingerWolf
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If you have read previous posts you would get, that there is 0 communication regarding a release date...That is why people are bitching.
Seems like the only reason this thread managed to stay alive for this long without an update or news about an update was because of people complaining and the subsequent contrarians.
Although, it also seems like even that's starting to die down. It's kinda sad. I had high expectations for this game.
Oh well, if an update ever does come out then I'd be pleasantly surprised. If it doesn't, it is what it is since I didn't sink any money into this anyway.
Edit: But hey, you never know. I just saw an update for maybe the 5th game this year that just came back from the dead out of nowhere ("dead" meaning abandoned or just hasn't updated in over a year). It's been a crazy year so far.
Although, it also seems like even that's starting to die down. It's kinda sad. I had high expectations for this game.
Oh well, if an update ever does come out then I'd be pleasantly surprised. If it doesn't, it is what it is since I didn't sink any money into this anyway.
Edit: But hey, you never know. I just saw an update for maybe the 5th game this year that just came back from the dead out of nowhere ("dead" meaning abandoned or just hasn't updated in over a year). It's been a crazy year so far.
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can we slap an abandoned tag on this yet? No point dragging it out
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Why? It's only nine months since release. Some devs are slow for some reasons. That doesn't mean it's abandoned. There are many more games here with way more time between updates. Just don't pay on Patreon for it if it's not worth to you. If you don't pay the tags can't bother you.
hydrang3a
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Abandoned tags roll around when 3 months have passed with no communication from the creator. In like a week or so we'll make another 2 months of no communication (at least in Patron and F95, I don't know how much he communicates in the Discord), so maybe its what the other guy is talking about.