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"It may" be nice of him to pause patreon pledges while no update...
- Nov 2, 2017
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Nice?"It may" be nice of him to pause patreon pledges while no update...
Yes.
Required?
No.
To put it bluntly the Patreon is to support the artist, not to support the game directly.
It is for "Yuno Gasai", not for "Acquainted by Yuno Gasai".
And technically speaking the patrons #1 get wallpapers for their contribution and #2 it was no fixed schedule mentioned in the first place.
Whatever is going on behind the scenes (we only get third hand speculations) a game that had no update in some time is not dead.
But everyone and their pet hamster is proclaiming it dead or demanding an abandoned tag without having further information.
Writing it often and consistent enough turns this into a self fulfilling prophecy. Meaning the game has a higher chance of turning out badly BECAUSE of that.
- Jul 24, 2021
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God help us no wonder these devs are pissing allover their fans when they have ppl with your mentality to support them...
How do you figure they're pissing all over their fans? As a patron of a couple devs, I'm not buying a game. If I was, it would be one expensive game. Hell, if you want to buy a game, get it on Epic or Steam. Those are completed games. As a patron, we're supporting the developer so they can continue the development of the game or games. Sometimes that means we support them during non-development times. Sure, we can drop our patronage until they start up development again, but that's up to each patron.God help us no wonder these devs are pissing allover their fans when they have ppl with your mentality to support them...
People who aren't supporting a dev are always the ones bitching and whining about shit. They don't give a fuck about the dev. All they give a shit about is 'Update When' and if that update doesn't happen when they fuckin want it, they bitch about the dev. People need to grow tf up and realize that devs are just normal people with normal RL issues and sometimes that means the development of a game is halted, delayed and sometimes abandoned.
- Jul 25, 2021
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I will disagree just because you are OK supporting a Dev during inactivities you can not possibly expect everyone else to think and be like you. Most people support a DEV only if they are developing a game that they like (not because they call themself developer) and if a dev is not producing most will not support them.
When you said "People who aren't supporting a dev are always the ones bitching and whining about shit" that is a opinion on your part and you have no way to backup that opinion. This is a Forum site, and forums are for communicating likes, dislike, criticize, recommend, etc etc. Forums are not RAH RAH site for DEVS.
Actually, if you read what I wrote you would've seen this:
and this:
But you decided to skip past that just to disagree with me. As for proving my opinion, you're absolutely correct. I can't. Except from the words of most of the people who have bitched. Most of them usually say shit like: "That's why I don't support devs."
Anyway, lucky for me that the devs I support:
MoonBox: Grandma's House
Black Hand Games: Detective Necro
Are constantly producing quality content. I'm also not saying people should support a dev who isn't producing shit for 6+ months and always making excuses about why. I supported one dev way past the expiration date and will never do it again. That game going abandoned still hurts my soul. But anyway, just my 2cents on the matter.
- Nov 2, 2017
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Since you are so convinced that Yuno is pissing all over his fans ....God help us no wonder these devs are pissing allover their fans when they have ppl with your mentality to support them...
Is your back wet?
Does it turn you on?
There is neither evidence for Yuno having abandoned this game and is milking his fans for every penny they are worth nor for the update being released in the next 24 hours.
You simply are yelling and arguing for the sake of arguing.
I would ask who hurt you, but it is likely that you are "just upset for the principle of others".
The next step usually is resorting to mindless insults after "facts" don't stick.
Wonder when you take that.
"Fans" and "Critics" like you are the bane of developers.
I'd bet that if Yuno would be "fast enough" for you you would complain about the quality of the renders and/or the writing.
If you don't like waiting please feel free to leave this thread.
- Nov 11, 2021
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Of course you aren't supporting them for the game. You are supporting them for the development of the game. As you very well said, you like to support developers who provide:
Development of the game involves providing updates of said game in a resonable amount of time. Why resonable? Because if the dev stated that the second update to their new game would take 7+ months, then I don't think they would've gotten as much support monetarily. Don't get me wrong, if they do, all power to them.
That's true but you're also complaining about people criticising devs for not doing shit for 6+ months. For all a dev could care, fuck the people who aren't patreons complaining on porn forums. But its a forum for a reason. So people complain and say "they're being pissed on" when a game they're supporting hasn't received an update for 8 months and there were 2 months of silence.
I'm not saying the dev did it intentionally, nor that there was no good reason for it. There was a good reason as the dev posted. But that information wasn't communicated. So people start talking.
But if you come to a forum threat with this mindset:
Then why the heck are you even here ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- Jul 24, 2021
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Okay Yuno, chill... sheesh
- Nov 2, 2017
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Thanks for the praise, but I hardly can draw stick figures.
Meaning I am not Yuno but you are a troll.
- Jul 10, 2017
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Dance!
Swarm them beaches now that sun and water come togehter to quench your thirsts.
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- Nov 30, 2020
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People are so impatient nowadays. Its been what, 6 months? Like chill people, most of the good games with great renders and a actual decent story are all like on a 6-8 month schedule.
- Nov 30, 2020
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Shit they could take 13 months for all I care.
I'm just saying, Its a fucking porn game. Go click on the latest page and play another while you wait. This one has good renders and readable text. If they release future updates hurray! If not, Well I'm not someone who is dumb enough to sub to indie porn devs on patreon when its been proven plenty of times on this exact site not to trust new/1st time devs.
At this point, it's just a Beta. Most of the good games, like you mentioned, have released more than two episodes. Not to mention, devs usually provide weekly or monthly progress report. That's not the case here. That's why people are losing patience.
You're right, it would be foolish.
most of those devs arent radio silent on progress either
I don't really care either way about whether Yuno pauses Patreon.
I only donate to devs during the month when they release game updates ... and that's only for when they have proven track records. Otherwise, it just feels like I'm throwing money away. Also this way, I can treat it like a simple transaction while still supporting the creator in some way. It's not much but the dev's still getting like 15 to 25 dollars for every PART of a game that is released. "I give money, I get product in exchange". I'm no Mr.Money-Bags-Benefactor here. I can't wrap my head around just "donating" money like that, especially when the dude's richer than me because of it. (Not talking about the majority of devs, but the really successful ones on Patreon.)
I'm not incentivizing the dev to basically just pump out updates for revenue and creative expression/quality be damned but at the same time I'm not donating money to the dev for occasional renders, vague dev reports, or what feels like basically nothing. (When I could buy like 2 to 3 burritos or something good with that money instead. Damn, son. I haven't had a burrito in a long-ass time. Might get one.)
In fact, while Patreon gives creators more freedom to do things (which is great). I always thought just directly making a business model off of it was a little weird but the genie's out of the bottle and there's no room for an alternative at this point. I'd like to see the kind of dev who switches to something that doesn't provide a constant monthly revenue regardless of whether something was actually produced or whether any work was actually done towards the project.
I only donate to devs during the month when they release game updates ... and that's only for when they have proven track records. Otherwise, it just feels like I'm throwing money away. Also this way, I can treat it like a simple transaction while still supporting the creator in some way. It's not much but the dev's still getting like 15 to 25 dollars for every PART of a game that is released. "I give money, I get product in exchange". I'm no Mr.Money-Bags-Benefactor here. I can't wrap my head around just "donating" money like that, especially when the dude's richer than me because of it. (Not talking about the majority of devs, but the really successful ones on Patreon.)
I'm not incentivizing the dev to basically just pump out updates for revenue and creative expression/quality be damned but at the same time I'm not donating money to the dev for occasional renders, vague dev reports, or what feels like basically nothing. (When I could buy like 2 to 3 burritos or something good with that money instead. Damn, son. I haven't had a burrito in a long-ass time. Might get one.)
In fact, while Patreon gives creators more freedom to do things (which is great). I always thought just directly making a business model off of it was a little weird but the genie's out of the bottle and there's no room for an alternative at this point. I'd like to see the kind of dev who switches to something that doesn't provide a constant monthly revenue regardless of whether something was actually produced or whether any work was actually done towards the project.
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