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Ayame is an unreliable narrator. This is far too obvious throughout the whole game, in the end she always ends up admitting it so you shouldn't take what she says or the frustration excuse to heart, that's what it is, an excuse, it's a coping mechanism.

Just because you saw something in a game and you liked it better, doesn't make that game better or the correct way to do it, it just means you like it better. If the developers changed the game every time someone had an idea to implement a scene "better" they'd still be working on the first patch. You can enjoy it for what it is or you can move on and play a game that meets your fetishes instead of trying to impose your fetishes in another game.

I personally didn't like a few things as well but I understood why they decided to do it that way, what I can tell you for sure is that if they used the "mind control" or "hypnotism" crutch to write a storyline I'd just skip it because it's overused, generally poorly written (yes, including the game you're hinting at) and it's boring, it's literally on every game with a therapist so it's a good thing this one didn't follow suit.
I think my biggest complaint (qq moment) giving it enough thought. It would have to be the quirky corruption mechanic in the game. First of all for Ayame to reach the Fallen State it's a bit unique but at the same time pretty early on it tells you about how you should think of pretty much any/ all moments where Ayame is in an H-scene that isn't with Robert as Ayame from an "Alternate Reality" -- at first because of Ayame having a twin sister, Fuji, I almost mistook this to mean that most of those H-scenes would be Robert "accidentally" stumbling upon Ayame's twin being involved in those H-scenes and growing increasingly suspicious questioning whether or not it's Ayame or Fuji, hence this would make sense for the "Roberts Trust" mechanic 50/50 capped bar.

But as far as I've seen, that has never been the case so I have no idea what the Roberts Trust resource bar is meant to mean, the only time I've ever noticed that bar going from 50/50 to 0/50 is in the inevitable bad ends of some routes. There's never anything that Ayame can do that makes Robert somehow lose his trust in Ayame. So for that, it's weird since it plays no part in the corruption mechanic.

It would be nice if this means that eventually in the future, this sort of thing will make sense, but as far as I can tell it's just kinda unnecessary information. The game has apparently been in development for years with a few updates every now and then, so we'll see I guess.
 

The Anax

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I'll check them out sometime! While the Bad Ends are good,
Just because you saw something in a game and you liked it better, doesn't make that game better or the correct way to do it, it just means you like it better. If the developers changed the game every time someone had an idea to implement a scene "better" they'd still be working on the first patch. You can enjoy it for what it is or you can move on and play a game that meets your fetishes instead of trying to impose your fetishes in another game.
Yeah, as a dev I totally agree with this, which is why I did not ask them to change anything at all and said, as you do that I will "move on" lol
 

Satyrsfaction

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Where you see pedo shit other people see "great opportunities", these are young teen boys and not really kids.
- And a lot of people don't mind "young adult teen boys" with oversized dicks fucking mature woman, on F95 some of the most popular games here is with that precise topic. (Summertime saga, A wife and mother, Big brother/Glamour and so on and so on). There is also no really "small kiddy peepee's ish".
...

I had a hunch and couldn't imagine you doing things like this ...

Regarding the spoiler: It looks, like this will be rather boring for me ... :cautious:
cause ...​
Scenes with Ayame were/are more exciting and interesting for me -​
when she is somehow seduced or tricked into sex,​
NOT when SHE takes the leading role, the seducing part.​
> A pretty woman seducing a man... what's interesting about that? (edit: where is the difficulty, the challenge? )
BUT when someone (old/ugly/arrogant/poor/younger) gets a pretty woman​
(in whatever way) to have sex with him (or them), that's where it gets exciting for me.​
-> When she tries to resist, but she becomes more and more aroused.​


PS: I once told you on discord about an idea I had, but I realized it didn't fit your story, that's why I didn't comment further on it ...
 
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I think my biggest complaint (qq moment) giving it enough thought. It would have to be the quirky corruption mechanic in the game. First of all for Ayame to reach the Fallen State it's a bit unique but at the same time pretty early on it tells you about how you should think of pretty much any/ all moments where Ayame is in an H-scene that isn't with Robert as Ayame from an "Alternate Reality" -- at first because of Ayame having a twin sister, Fuji, I almost mistook this to mean that most of those H-scenes would be Robert "accidentally" stumbling upon Ayame's twin being involved in those H-scenes and growing increasingly suspicious questioning whether or not it's Ayame or Fuji, hence this would make sense for the "Roberts Trust" mechanic 50/50 capped bar.

But as far as I've seen, that has never been the case so I have no idea what the Roberts Trust resource bar is meant to mean, the only time I've ever noticed that bar going from 50/50 to 0/50 is in the inevitable bad ends of some routes. There's never anything that Ayame can do that makes Robert somehow lose his trust in Ayame. So for that, it's weird since it plays no part in the corruption mechanic.

It would be nice if this means that eventually in the future, this sort of thing will make sense, but as far as I can tell it's just kinda unnecessary information. The game has apparently been in development for years with a few updates every now and then, so we'll see I guess.
Robet's Trust was for a goal that wasn't met on Patreon.
 

Zellemate

Community Manager For HeavenStudios
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I had a hunch and couldn't imagine you doing things like this ...

Regarding the spoiler: It looks, like this will be rather boring for me ... :cautious:
cause ...​
Scenes with Ayame were/are more exciting and interesting for me -​
when she is somehow seduced or tricked into sex,​
NOT when SHE takes the leading role, the seducing part.​
> A pretty woman seducing a man... what's interesting about that? (edit: where is the difficulty, the challenge? )
BUT when someone (old/ugly/arrogant/poor/younger) gets a pretty woman​
(in whatever way) to have sex with him (or them), that's where it gets exciting for me.​
-> When she tries to resist, but she becomes more and more aroused.​


PS: I once told you on discord about an idea I had, but I realized it didn't fit your story, that's why I didn't comment further on it ...
Well you might be right!... but its a bit prematurely to judge the content and the story of the DLC since its not finished yet.
But I agree with you that I also like those premises more you mention... but I honestly don't know how the Shota DLC will play out.
- Judging from all the DLC spoilers it looks like the boys will force/persuade Ayame till they get their will.... but I might be wrong!
- It's a standalone story, so when it comes out it properly won't be that much time needed to finish/complete it so should be easy to check out if one likes it or not.
 
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chavoks

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Although a great game and truly massive, what i dont get is, every an alternative reality or something? Because several characters act differently depending on the route, not just ayame, like the sister in some routes just wants to hurt her sister and in others they are best friends due to some revelation, and robert in one of the family route knows all about what his father does and in the others he dont so whats up with that?
 

Zellemate

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Although a great game and truly massive, what i dont get is, every an alternative reality or something? Because several characters act differently depending on the route, not just ayame, like the sister in some routes just wants to hurt her sister and in others they are best friends due to some revelation, and robert in one of the family route knows all about what his father does and in the others he dont so whats up with that?
The multiverse is explained in the beginning of the game, so yes its different realities.
 

CuckoDreams

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Jun 13, 2019
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I somehow lost all of my saves, started playing through the game up till right before marvins route branches off and then the game bugged out again, does anyone have a save?
 

kentastic

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this game is just like all the others out there. everyone in town is taking advantage of your char, and of course like ALL of the others she wont even mention it to hubby. people will walk up and just grab her tits and she'll stand there doing nothing. why is "knee them in the balls" never an option? people will rape her and does she tell hubby? nope. shocker there. and why is call the cops never an option when someone rapes her? what rape legal in their world? this game is just another in a huge never ending line of women brutalizing bullshit. how about something original. say a women char that actually acts like a woman and not a walking sex doll.
 

kentastic

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Is it your first time you see a porn-game?
no,ive seen hundreds possibly 1000's and thats exactly my point. no originality. they are pretty much all the same. what i dont get is why thier so afraid of the concept of strong woman. every one of them brutalizes women hero's but rewards the male hero's. sexist much? im not the one with the fraked up view of women, im just shining a little light on it.
 

Bacara

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no,ive seen hundreds possibly 1000's and thats exactly my point. no originality. they are pretty much all the same. what i dont get is why thier so afraid of the concept of strong woman. every one of them brutalizes women hero's but rewards the male hero's. sexist much? im not the one with the fraked up view of women, im just shining a little light on it.
The tags at the top of the page are a big clue to what kind of game you're playing. If I were you, I'd avoid playing games like this in future.
 

str8up

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has this happened to anybody else take a shower at home and suddenly your invisible ?
 

Zellemate

Community Manager For HeavenStudios
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i can t start the game )))
You need to explain why then, people have already given full guide to installation.
- If you have installed RPGmaker vx ace it should work.
- If you can't install it RPGmaker, it won't work, and that's just how it is.
- It will ONLY work on PC, not macOS or android/iOS.

As alternative, you can buy it on steam + install the Kagura patch and play it there!
 
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no,ive seen hundreds possibly 1000's and thats exactly my point. no originality.
Did you enjoy your first 30 games? Ever considered that playing 1000s of them might be the issue, not the lack of originality?

this game is just like all the others out there. everyone in town is taking advantage of your char, and of course like ALL of the others she wont even mention it to hubby. people will walk up and just grab her tits and she'll stand there doing nothing. why is "knee them in the balls" never an option? people will rape her and does she tell hubby? nope. shocker there. and why is call the cops never an option when someone rapes her?
Alright.... so please tell me how the story would continue. The woman get's raped, tells husband, they go to the police... and then what? how would the story continue? And keep in mind it's still a porn game so your audience expects sex scenes and that it impacts the future story.
 
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