GamleErik89

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I waited a year for this, as I wanted to replay the entire thing in one sitting. I should've just kept up with the updates instead. I need time to properly assess and assemble a proper opinion, but I cant be arsed to do so, so I'll do it messy like, with all the inaccuracies that come with it, so it might just be a shit take on it all: SPOILERS AHEAD

I loved the game, but it got weak and leaky somwhere around mid to late-mid and took a nosedive towards the end with a(some) weak and very disappointing ending(s).

There's just too much stuff that needs explaining and answers that just get poofed out of existense, such as "Thing", what actually was "Thing", and why and how was it so easily rid of at the end for example. And way too much glossing over of otherwise good and interesting characters too.
I am actually disappointed with the way the ending(s) went.

Inb4 "You just wanted Harem"; No, I wanted proper closure with the side-"romances" instead of just a "lay off, you gettin' hitched! Buh-bye". And who is actually the father of Jasmins kid? I bet it's most likely the MC, if MC had sex with her and came insde. It lines up with the event and mention of bump later on.

Conclusion; Way too many plotholes, or abruptly ended plots that needed answers and never got them.
 

cxx

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So was Izzy and Alex sisters? Was MC their brother? Otherwise, why is there an incest tag?

So no harem? *smashes phone on the ground and jumps on skateboard*
alex and izzy are allegedly half-sisters (players are sure that they are but dev doesn't tell) so incest tag is right due they have sex with eachothers. mafia boss being married to ex-boss's daughter and still banging other girls? even if alex would approve that lower bosses wouldn't.
 

zaqrwe

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mechanic lady
oh, that one. Yeah, I got first scenes by offering her to drive with a car together or something like that, but really can't remember if she even have any content during ending.


mafia boss being married to ex-boss's daughter and still banging other girls? even if alex would approve that lower bosses wouldn't.
And you know, if that line went somewhere through MC's thoughts, it woul've been understandable how he didn't really want to conctinue romances. The problem is, there is just nothing like that there.
 

SomeFakeName

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very disappointed with the ending. the main 'mystery' about Izzy was completely glazed over, after being teased all along and even used as part of the reason Vanya tried to take over. So many unanswered questions and forgotten side lines in the story.

Story started good, maintained momentum through the middle, and then just wandered off aimlessly at the end.
 
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Motoko Kusanagi

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I'm so bummed that Nerysa didn't get more scenes and my waifu Alice was sent away.
Yeah quite annoyed about that. Great game but suffered from the same problem Ptolemy had with their last games' ending. They just cant make endings at all. Both ended in the same way, either quick flashes or quick mentions with things left without explanation. Looking forward to their next game but they seriously need to figure out how to end it properly.
 

randos belgados

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title says: completed v1.0 but changelogs says: v0.85. so we arent finished, yet?
if it isnt, even it was only for completion of side chars, ill wait.
 

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The game is ''completed'' and still no sex with ex escort?
Honestly, I will NEVER play your games again. You can't make a story well. *YIKES*
I told you, bro. This dev probably has ADD/ADHD and he loses interest half way through ALL of his games. Then add in mediocre shit endings and there you have it.

He always starts out strong, so I know he has it in him to write an amazing game. But, somewhere about half way, he always loses focus and this is what happens.
 

cxx

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And you know, if that line went somewhere through MC's thoughts, it woul've been understandable how he didn't really want to conctinue romances. The problem is, there is just nothing like that there.
true dat.
 

Spatenklopper

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He always starts out strong, so I know he has it in him to write an amazing game. But, somewhere about half way, he always loses focus and this is what happens.
The next time I wait until it's finished, read the end of the script and then decide whether I should start playing...
I liked both of his games but honestly the endings suck.
It would be even more satisfying to banish it halfway and leave the rest to the imagination.
 

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The next time I wait until it's finished, read the end of the script and then decide whether I should start playing...
I liked both of his games but honestly the endings suck.
It would be even more satisfying to banish it halfway and leave the rest to the imagination.
I'm not even going to bother with his releases anymore. Several devs are the same way. I truly hope this is just a trend that at some point will just stop.
 

Hedylogos

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I told you, bro. This dev probably has ADD/ADHD and he loses interest half way through ALL of his games. Then add in mediocre shit endings and there you have it.

He always starts out strong, so I know he has it in him to write an amazing game. But, somewhere about half way, he always loses focus and this is what happens.
It is unfortunate. I am a story writer myself, not AVNs, and always have the full framework of a story built before I ever start writing it. Sure, somethings do change along the way. However, I pretty much know the story arc(s) and ending before. It is certainly not the only way or even best way for every writer, it just works for me. The problem with some writers is they just either get bored, run out of ideas, or yes start thinking about a new idea (ADD/ADHD).

If I am trying to make money off of something, I sure as hell will make sure I find a way to properly end it. Even if that means getting someone involved to help flesh out the story. Personally I will not support anything by this author in the future. This wasn't the first AVN that he has done this way. If it was, I would give him a second chance.
 
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alex and izzy are allegedly half-sisters (players are sure that they are but dev doesn't tell) so incest tag is right due they have sex with eachothers. mafia boss being married to ex-boss's daughter and still banging other girls? even if alex would approve that lower bosses wouldn't.
Fuck is the point of being in power if you don't get to fuck more bitches?!?
 

UncleFredo

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General comment to the thread.
How many games are simply abandoned?
How many games NEVER end but just keep stumbling forward with ever smaller update?
I've really enjoyed playing this VN. REALLY ENJOYED IT!

No VN is perfect. No VN every has an ending that satisfies everyone, That never ever happens.

In this case Ptolemy took the time and made the effort to actually END THE GAME.

He didn't tie off all the threads. He didn't clean up all the possibilities.

But he did end the game and address the major plot points.

So quit complaining because your particular concern was left unaddressed in a VN YOU PLAY FOR FREE!
Quit complaining about how much better you think he might have done in a perfect world and acknowledge just how much he has done. This is a very high quality VN. Engaging and enjoyable to play. All of us are damn lucky to have the opportunity to play it.

So for Christ's sake just thank him and move on.
 

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General comment to the thread.
How many games are simply abandoned?
How many games NEVER end but just keep stumbling forward with ever smaller update?
I've really enjoyed playing this VN. REALLY ENJOYED IT!

No VN is perfect. No VN every has an ending that satisfies everyone, That never ever happens.

In this case Ptolemy took the time and made the effort to actually END THE GAME.

He didn't tie off all the threads. He didn't clean up all the possibilities.

But he did end the game and address the major plot points.

So quit complaining because your particular concern was left unaddressed in a VN YOU PLAY FOR FREE!
Quit complaining about how much better you think he might have done in a perfect world and acknowledge just how much he has done. This is a very high quality VN. Engaging and enjoyable to play. All of us are damn lucky to have the opportunity to play it.

So for Christ's sake just thank him and move on.
Nah. I'll save my thanks for you, Fredo. I needed a good laugh and you gave it to me. So, thank you. :ROFLMAO:
 

Fraxo

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It's almost as the writers for LOST has been involved. Lots of loose ends that's never explained. :unsure:
 
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