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tsunku

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That is the way it should be but the boss only take's 2000 or 10% which ever is greater.
I collected 29k and paid 2,900 to the boss.

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yea in the game haha try that in real life, they'll find you a hole real quick. that's what i was talking about real life vs the game, the game has it backwards the boss gets the majority, the enforcer gets the 10% tho reality it's more like 2% unless you're the top enforcer..
 

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You seem to have a rather intimate knowledge over the inner workings of illegal money collections... Should we be worried? Just kidding :p
why should you be worried? borrowed money from the wrong ppl? haha just remember, life is long and things happen...
 

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Well, technically we are doing 3 games was 4 but.......... We are only publishing 2 The 3rd one will you will have to guess :biggrin:
Although This game will be the new game taking the place of "Dreaming of Dana" on the monthly update.
 

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Its a Good Start, my suggestion would be switch the personal trainer with saloon lady, they don't really look the part currently. and the gun trainer, is that normal in USA/rus to have a high school girl be a personal gun trainer? she looks like she just had a huge fright with the hair blown up like that, JK.
probally need to adjust/increase the smoothing modifier on some of the clothes, like the top on the female alley character
Gotta keep with the times, have you seen how the NRA is trying to recruit more young women to take up gun sports and to use guns... It's a market the gun industry is hard pressed to push these days... So it's not really that unheard of...
 
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[QUOTE="abbott, post: 569727, member: 50526]- I want to talk about one of the biggest problems this genre of games seems to constantly be plagued with: ludonarrative dissonance.
Not a fan of the stat system. I get progression, but the condescension doesn't really tickle my pickle at all. You can have a dangerous, neurotic Bruce Banner jr. drifting around doing odd jobs, trying to control his dark side, or you can have an autistic blank slate who gets treated like a newborn baby. He's a rookie, and he's gotta level up (eye roll); sure, that's fine. But at least try and come up with, if not good, at least decent story-gameplay integration, that respects its players.
I think there's something unwholesome about that. I'm all for trying new things, but it just seems like, to me, that you want to be a criminal more than you want to do the time, both story and gameplay wise, Mr. Ptolemy.[/QUOTE]

As to the heavy use of a lot of adult/erotic visual novels and games use of a point based system, either for relationship building and/or for character stats, it's an easy tool to micro-manage from a story telling point of view... By using point systems, an author/developer/creator can create gates that lock story content behind a Numbers Wall... So when a certain stat, or more then one stat, has reached a critical stage, the gate is then opened for either a Choice to appear or for the story to just naturally go down the path that was originally locked behind that gate... This is one of the easier types of systems that can be used, regardless if it's a grindy based game like this one or Dana, or if it is a more traditional visual novel style where choices directly impact the stats/numbers...

Another method that can be used, but is a bit harder to manage, is just using choices only for gating content... In this scenario, where stats and/or numbered variables are not used, it becomes a bit harder for the creator to manage the web of story paths, sub paths, plot changes, and so forth because a number is no longer associated with those paths etc...

Typically when you play one of these types of VN/Games, you may have hidden stats/numbers... That is usually a tool used to help keep the immersion in place and/or to allow for a story to feel more like it's just naturally evolving depending on choices made by the player/reader... Plus it may add some replay value to the VN/Game... By revealing the stats/numbers, depending on the play style of the VN/Game, this may actually hinder the immersion because now the player/reader knows what they need to do to go down a particular path, rather then leaving it more as a surprise... But of course, every player/reader has their own needs, and every author/developer/creator has their own creative game making style/technique...
 

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You didn't get the joke... I wasn't being serious...
yes i did, i just kinda went over it heh, the internet is amazing cuz you can find ppl from all walks of life. even ones that play porn games that in real life, you'd never think they'd even touch a computer haha
 
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Gotta keep with the times, have you seen how the NRA is trying to recruit more young women to take up gun sports and to use guns... It's a market the gun industry is hard pressed to push these days... So it's not really that unheard of...
Should Note That this first update was to make sure and get the main gameplay mechanisms working and get feedback on the game mechanics. Also, this is the last release that will be made available the conventional way by direct download. Starting with all games upcoming releases you will need to log into your Patreon account
Gotta keep with the times, have you seen how the NRA is trying to recruit more young women to take up gun sports and to use guns... It's a market the gun industry is hard pressed to push these days... So it's not really that unheard of...

By no means is this game an endorsement for Gun's or the NRA. is merely used as a storytelling mechanism
 

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Gotta keep with the times, have you seen how the NRA is trying to recruit more young women to take up gun sports and to use guns... It's a market the gun industry is hard pressed to push these days... So it's not really that unheard of...
actually that's a market they've been in for many decades. just cuz the media says something is so doesn't make it so. hell my daughter not only has her own pistol but a CCW permit as well, she also could kill you with her bare hands if she chose to, cuz i'm not a stupid father, i trained her soon as she was old enough to walk. screw women being defenseless cuz some man is scared of women being able to defend themselves. btw you could replace gun with judo or pretty much anything and it would apply in the usa. so many here almost demand females be left defenseless unable to resist any rapist lest they injure some poor young boy... i say to hell with that, let the female injure or kill the bastard! btw also trained my gf too in both firearms and hand to hand haha i just can't stand it when ppl do not know how to defend themselves.. it is a rough world out there and anyone who doesn't think so has their head up their ass so they can't see it.
 
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Should Note That this first update was to make sure and get the main gameplay mechanisms working and get feedback on the game mechanics. Also, this is the last release that will be made available the conventional way by direct download. Starting with all games upcoming releases you will need to log into your Patreon account



By no means is this game an endorsement for Gun's or the NRA. is merely used as a storytelling mechanism
I was only pointing out to the members post on his question regarding an issue he/she had with a young woman being the gun skill trainer in this game... I was just pointing out how nowadays it's not uncommon to find young women toting guns or training others on their use... I was not referencing that your game was supporting the NRA at all...
 

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Should Note That this first update was to make sure and get the main gameplay mechanisms working and get feedback on the game mechanics.
is there any reason why practicing with the submachine gun increases the knowledge stat instead of gun skill?
also practicing with a tutor in any activity costs $100 but gives the same points of the long practice. it would make more sense to either increase the points or have a variable that keeps memory of the interactions with the tutor, just saving some time is not enough of a reason to pay $100..
 

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is there any reason why practicing with the submachine gun increases the knowledge stat instead of gun skill?
also practicing with a tutor in any activity costs $100 but gives the same points of the long practice. it would make more sense to either increase the points or have a variable that keeps memory of the interactions with the tutor, just saving some time is not enough of a reason to pay $100..
As @gamersglory said this is only in the very early stages of setting up the mechanisms for game play and not what will actually be what is what at this time.
 

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is there any reason why practicing with the submachine gun increases the knowledge stat instead of gun skill?
also practicing with a tutor in any activity costs $100 but gives the same points of the long practice. it would make more sense to either increase the points or have a variable that keeps memory of the interactions with the tutor, just saving some time is not enough of a reason to pay $100..
Spending the money makes the training take less time... And the gun skill issue has been mentioned a bunch of times already, it's a bug...
 
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