くもり空

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but in time she actually meets a few of their fans and sees that there are still good "pervert" people and that defend her from other bullies/prejudice/judgmental people.
There's a big difference between sympathy and simping. Simps will always say nice things to their queen because they're also lonely and deprived of affection. It's fake and parasocial, almost symbiotic. They don't know Emilie. They don't care about her. It's literally "nooo don't kill yourself ur so sexy aha." Only supporters can comment, so it's an echo chamber. It sells an illusion instead of helping Emilie deal with reality. If you want to make a game about OF, fine, but don't try to pass it as cute. Show it for what it is, not this romanticized fairy land.
 

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There's a big difference between sympathy and simping. Simps will always say nice things to their queen because they're also lonely and deprived of affection. It's fake and parasocial, almost symbiotic. They don't know Emilie. They don't care about her. It's literally "nooo don't kill yourself ur so sexy aha." Only supporters can comment, so it's an echo chamber. It sells an illusion instead of helping Emilie deal with reality. If you want to make a game about OF, fine, but don't try to pass it as cute. Show it for what it is, not this romanticized fairy land.
Well I'm done trying to give valid arguments on why I think you are wrong because you have a narrow mind from what I read in those sentences. We know its a fairy land, you come and want too close to reality and is fine, go search it, you won't find it here. This is fantasy, dang almost every kink/story in this games are completely fantasy fairyland and most are fine with it and search for it. We know it is fake so stop trying to make people who think different than you feel like what you want them to feel.

Have a good day, you can reply more if you want. For me I'm done because we will never agree except that we disagree :LOL:
 
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Well I'm done trying to give valid arguments on why I think you are wrong because you have a narrow mind from what I read in those sentences. We know its a fairy land, you come and want too close to reality and is fine, go search it, you won't find it here. This is fantasy, dang almost every kink/story in this games are completely fantasy fairyland and most are fine with it and search for it. We know it is fake so stop trying to make people who think different than you feel like what you want them to feel.

Have a good day, you can reply more if you want. For me I'm done because we will never agree except that we disagree :LOL:
Just read his review... that's all you need to know. Dude is just a hater and engagement farming....
 

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I mean what do you need a walkthrough for? Just pick the dom options, and decline the NTS/Prostitution options. It's pretty straight forward and you definitely don't need a walkthrough.
It's not that straightforward. I've been reading this thread trying to figure out how to get NTS (sharing) without rape, prostitution or making the MC a complete asshole. It seems like it's not possible? You get the love route, all NTR/S is closed to you. You get the dom route, the MC is an absolute monster. Seems like another purity vs corruption game. But hoping someone will correct me and point to what I was missing that lets the MC treat Emilie decently, even lovingly, and still consensually share her. Isn't that what NTS stands for? People here mention NTS but I couldn't get there, not without making the MC treat Emilie like a fucking jerk.
 

Mommysbuttslut

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I was missing that lets the MC treat Emilie decently, even lovingly, and still consensually share her. Isn't that what NTS stands for?
No, NTS just means you're sharing her. Treating her decently isn't a requirement for that kink.

Doing so would be contradictory to both their characters. Emily is 100% dedicated and deeply in love with the MC. She doesn't want any man other than him touching or having sex with her. Treating her well and sharing her aren't 2 compatible things. Sharing her is inherently harmful to her under any context and emotionally hurts her quite deeply which means simply sharing her at all is treating her wrongly.
MC's also a rather possessive and dominant character on any path. In order for him to consider sharing her he needs to not view her as a romantic interest and instead as just an exploitable possession. He can develop feelings for her down the road and Emily can learn to love being whored out, but you can't get that path while treating her well at the beginning.
I'll also silently judge you for going on that path, Emily deserves way better than to be whored out.
 

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No, NTS just means you're sharing her. Treating her decently isn't a requirement for that kink.

Doing so would be contradictory to both their characters. Emily is 100% dedicated and deeply in love with the MC. She doesn't want any man other than him touching or having sex with her. Treating her well and sharing her aren't 2 compatible things. Sharing her is inherently harmful to her under any context and emotionally hurts her quite deeply which means simply sharing her at all is treating her wrongly.
MC's also a rather possessive and dominant character on any path. In order for him to consider sharing her he needs to not view her as a romantic interest and instead as just an exploitable possession. He can develop feelings for her down the road and Emily can learn to love being whored out, but you can't get that path while treating her well at the beginning.
I'll also silently judge you for going on that path, Emily deserves way better than to be whored out.
We agree, I think I made it clear what I thought about the so-called dom path - simply can't play an MC that treats Emily like that, let alone whore her out, so that route is a no-no. Which means, the only game I can play here is 100% vanilla (harem is vanilla).

I accept your reading but to me that rates both characters as rather one-minded, simplistic. I wouldn't mind Emily had a bit more of a dynamic personality and relationship, at least from the moment the MC decides to kiss and accept blowjobs from other women. It's pretty realistic that Emily, as she gains self-confidence, could fantasize about the fans that send her lewd messages. Her absolute dedication (perhaps obsession) is more in line with a fantasy of many, I admit it, but it lacks complexity that would make her character come to life. People are complex, they can love and still feel attraction to others, succumb to impulse, and there can be an intelligent plot that allows for their relationship to process temptation and betrayal of trust. The idea that in order to share your LI you have to not care enough about them is simply too black-and-white. It does fit with your portrayal of both Emily and the MC - she doesn't want it, you'd have to force it on her. But that's simply because they're one-dimensional characters. It also feels one-sided throughout that Emilie is SO dedicated that she's ready to share the MC, even fantasizes about it, but the MC gets her exclusively, and potentially all other female characters in the game. Again, I know it's a fantasy of many... I've played harem games before, they're all the same. While I do feel empathy for Emily in the love path, it's just too predictable not to get bored along the way.
 
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There's a big difference between sympathy and simping. Simps will always say nice things to their queen because they're also lonely and deprived of affection. It's fake and parasocial, almost symbiotic. They don't know Emilie. They don't care about her. It's literally "nooo don't kill yourself ur so sexy aha." Only supporters can comment, so it's an echo chamber. It sells an illusion instead of helping Emilie deal with reality. If you want to make a game about OF, fine, but don't try to pass it as cute. Show it for what it is, not this romanticized fairy land.
I'd like to clarify something here, because you seem to be stereotyping both these models of the internet adult entertainment and their supporters. I can guarantee you based on my personal experience as a long-time moderator for a camgirl that not all supporters are plain "simps" as you call them. I have actually become friends with the camgirl, and so have a number of other supporters in our little community. The fact that we can now call this community "ours" (we even have a little group on Discord where we interact with each other talking about things completely unrelated to the model in question) and not just "hers" shows that it has become way more than a simple matter of "oh, she's sexy and I want to fap to her". I have observed that wholesome and genuine models are more likely to attract potential supporters who truly care about their well-being than those who put up a fake front and are superficial.

In AlwaysFan, the interaction between Emilie and her fans may start out as a simple relation between a model and her fans (at this point it's still at the "parasocial" stage, I'll give you that), but this grows into something more through her live Q & A sessions and the real-life interactions at the AlwaysFanCon. One may need to do a little bit of reading between the lines and using one's imagination, but I have personally interpreted the whole thing as Emilie providing her fans with the information needed for them to start seeing her more than just a piece of meat. Trust me, this happens in the adult entertainment world more than you assume ("come for porn, stay for wholesome interactions" as it were). We also see a number of her fans actively defending her when Elizabeth (was that her name?) verbally attacks our female lead at AlwaysFanCon, saying that they find her uniqueness more attractive than an "ordinary" Elizabeth. The bully's bitchy personality certainly doesn't help either, but the fact that these fans find Emilie's uniqueness endearing - especially if you're on her non-nude model path which, in my opinion, puts things into perspective a bit more obviously - means they recognize something special that she offers other than her physical beauty.

An example of this: there is a couple that shows up at the convention and we learn that they have previously attended Emilie's second Q & A live stream. If you pay attention to the actual chat that takes place during the stream, you see there is an interaction that happens between a female chatter who says she has no self confidence due to her having a burn scar on her face, and one of the male chatters who tells her something to the effect of "there's more to beauty than just the physical appearance" (I forget the exact wording used). I think Emilie also gives her advice, if I remember correctly. The chat then shows the two chatters moving their conversation to the PM so that they don't clutter up the public chat. At this point, for these two, it's no longer about Emilie. And at the AlwaysFanCon, these are the couple (you can see the mark on the girl's face) that come to talk to Emilie at her booth, and this pairing would not have happened if Emilie wasn't the kind of model and the person she is. Later on, watch the bully Elizabeth being totally devastated due to NO ONE visiting her own booth (which implies that she is also a model on AlwaysFan). The things I've seen in chatrooms of camgirls aren't that far off from this.

By the way, I won't even get into the use of the word "symbiotic" here, because this post will get even longer than it already has become, lol.
 
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MC's also a rather possessive and dominant character on any path.
I'm not so sure on the possessive part, I would say protective would be a better word. On the sharing path, after the initial fuckery it quickly becomes clear that the MC isn't really possessive at all. I do agree with you on other fronts though. Even though Emilie eventually does come to love it, and the MC starts treating her better, the way you get to the point in the first place is sickening to me. It's definitely my least favorite path (I played) even though I enjoyed the sex scenes.
 
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I do have to agree with those sayin the dom path early on was sketchy af, goin way too hard way too fast. I really wanted to play as a dom but immediately got scared into the love path by early scenes. Tone had me think there was nothing down that path but the most ruthless abusive pimping.

Luckily I ended up enjoying the love path but it would have been nice to have some middle ground options early where you dom but still show some basic decency and affection. As it was, it went from asking her to make dinner to telling her you'll never care about her right after raping her. Then the next day also forcing her into pornography under the threat of eviction.

That said, I read the synopsis for the next game and it seems like the creator learned a lot of the right lessons. So I have high hopes for it, especially since no more forced onlyfans.
 
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reidanota

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Luckily I ended up enjoying the love path but it would have been nice to have some middle ground options early where you dom but still show some basic decency and affection. As it was, it went from asking her to make dinner to telling her you'll never care about her right after raping her. Then the next day also forcing her into pornography under the threat of eviction.
This is exactly how I felt, and I apologise if I sounded like I was shitting on the game in my previous post. The fact is the story is how the author wanted it, and as a player I don't like to feel like I'm being critical without also noting that I'm thankful for all the pain and hard work put into it. You were better at putting it mildly and clearly that what would be nice would be a middle-ground where you and Emily can explore a bit of a kinky side of both their professions, within a wholesome relationship. But I've shared my thoughts about this in multiple threads already, and often get negative feedback from people who prefer clear-cut paths and who strongly feel that wholesomeness and sharing can't go together, infidelity deserves no forgiveness ever, etc... To each, their own.

I do enjoy the love path for what it is.
 

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:eek: wow its not top notch renders/game or whatever but wow completed!! these kind of devs deserves more i finished being nice to fmc i couldnt pick to be bad at her :KEK::KEK:
 
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Everyone has their own tastes, I really don't care if the game has NTR (and yes I know sharing lewd photos doesn't fit the definition of NTR, its not literal swinging or cucking by any means) but its still it does fall in the realm of "sharing", to sell lewd photos of your gf. It really kills the romance for me (tag I was interested in) and makes the backstory pointless to have the MC become some scumbag who sells the woman's lewd photos online instead of just getting a job. I'm not judging people for what they like, if people like that I understand, I just thought it might be avoidable so I was curious if it goes this way with all the girls or just the albino girl?
I think having a brief scene where MC and Emilie tried to look for jobs but found out that it was completely hopeless would've done wonders.

As it is, on day one of looking for work, MC jumps immediately to OF modeling without even trying anything, and yeah, it comes off a little pervy/pimpy.
 
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IMO What would have made this much better would have been to not even have a sharing route and have more time with all the girls. I mean some of the girls only had 4 sex scenes like Lea and Iris and i think Megan only had 3.
 

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IMO What would have made this much better would have been to not even have a sharing route and have more time with all the girls. I mean some of the girls only had 4 sex scenes like Lea and Iris and i think Megan only had 3.
This would defeat the whole vision the Dev had. If the Dev would have wanted to do a full Harem game, they would have done it.
 
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