VN Ren'Py Completed Amy Girl Next Door [v1.0] [Moogoo]

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Alex Lem

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ROFLOL!
So I am guessing that you don't like NTR huh?
Wow man, its okay to not like things, but this is next level stuff.
Harem is the only way to go because the entire world agrees with what you and only you like right??? LOL!
smdh
I'm not just dislike NTR, I despise it, and everyone who likes it. If you want to tell me that ntr sells better than HAREM, then there's something wrong with you dude, 99% peoples on this site love harem and hate NTR, it's just a fact. How long have you been on this site? Have you seen what kind of wars start when a game with NTR appears?
 

Demnor

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Hey Moogoo!
Really like this little teaser game of yours, very nice graphics - super cute female MC, I like all about her (even though I generally like larger tits and a non shaved crotch). You have some talents both when it comes to creating graphics, writing the story and dialogue as well as a general "je ne sais quoi" that I can't really put my finger on.

Can't wait to see what you will come up with next. Get a SubscribeStar page (for less interference in your artistic freedoms) when you do and I will try and support your next attempt.
 
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Lurker1001

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I'm not just dislike NTR, I despise it, and everyone who likes it. If you want to tell me that ntr sells better than HAREM, then there's something wrong with you dude, 99% peoples on this site love harem and hate NTR, it's just a fact. How long have you been on this site? Have you seen what kind of wars start when a game with NTR appears?
100% of all stats are made up.... and also... boo hoo wahh. Cry me a river little boy. Its not all about you there squirt. I dont give a rats ass if you despise ntr or not... that is YOUR problem and not anybody elses. lol. Grow the hell up.
 

HUNUTAN

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I'm not just dislike NTR, I despise it, and everyone who likes it. If you want to tell me that ntr sells better than HAREM, then there's something wrong with you dude, 99% peoples on this site love harem and hate NTR, it's just a fact. How long have you been on this site? Have you seen what kind of wars start when a game with NTR appears?
It's just that there are more unacceptable people like you who are no longer NTR fans. And those who like NTR are more intelligent people. And they do not shout in the chat something like "burn everyone who does not share their opinion." And your screams are nothing more than disrespect for people whose tastes differ from yours, and disrespect for yourself, showing itself in such a light.
 
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drenai1

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Well, Moogoo, it seems the flame wars have begun. While the arguments over what should and should not be in your story/game can certainly be entertaining, I believe you're looking for constructive criticism. With that in mind I'll give you my thoughts on the subject of NTR.

Depending on how it's handled, NTR can be a good thing or a bad thing in a game. At its best, NTR can be a dramatic and compelling story element, providing conflict and tension which can be used to advance the narrative. At it's worst, NTR will completely derail a game as the NTR becomes the central focus of the story, eliminating the conflict and tension; effectively bringing the narrative to a grinding halt. Conflict and tension are needed elements if you want to hold the attention of your audience.

NTR does not hold up well on it's own merits. There just isn't enough there to prop up a story. In order for NTR to work in a game, it needs to be built on a solid foundation. That foundation is a compelling and interesting story. This story can have anything from a linear plot that follows a specific path from beginning to end all the way up to a multi branched maze of a plot with dozens of end points. On the linear path, in order to work, the NTR must be an integral part of the story that drives the plot forward. If it doesn't push the plot forward, it will seem as out of place as a guy dressed in brightly colored Hawaiian shirt at somber funeral. NTR for its own sake can be somewhat less jarring in branching, multi-path story,, mainly because it can be avoided entirely, but even here, in order to work, the NTR must be a required element of that branch of the story. If you can take the NTR out and still have a story or branch of a story that holds up, it shouldn't be there at all. This general rule should actually be applied to any fetish in a porn game, not just NTR.

As the author, it is your responsibility plot out a story that not only has the elements that you want in there, but in fact needs those elements in order for the story to work. In a corruption themed game, NTR can be an excellent tool to advance the story. In the case of "Amy Girl Next Door", Amy is blackmailed into it. So the question you, as the author need to ponder is, what does this bring to the story that you can use to advance the plot. So far Amy has been forced to give a blow job to a thug and has had sex with her boyfriend's father. This is almost guaranteed to cause tension in her relationship with her boyfriend. Whether she tries desperately to cling to Tom as an element of normalcy in her life or she starts comparing him favorably or poorly to the other men she interacts with, it adds drama and conflict. Depending on how you handle it, the NTR can strengthen or weaken Amy's relationship with Tom. The one thing it cannot do is have no effect at all. If it has no effect, on her relationships, then it's NTR trying to stand on its own merits and will drive more people away from your story than it pulls in because it serves no purpose. In the story you've presented here, the NTR is a fundamental element of the corruption part of the story. It's up to you to capitalize on this. As I mentioned in my previous post, if the criminal organization that's blackmailing Amy is even remotely competent, they know everything there is to know about her. Her "trainers" for lack of a better term, are likely monitoring her interactions in her private life and should know about her encounter with Mr. Roberts, even if they don't know all the details. When she's brought in for "The Meeting", they should ask her questions on the lines of "What was it like having sex with a real man rather than a boy?". They should be constantly pushing Amy to question who she is and what she feels and believes.

Now if you decide to turn this into a multi branch story with several different paths, you can include the NTR on some paths, but not on others. You can have a path where Amy gives in completely and see's her relationship with Tom utterly destroyed as she becomes a willing whore who gives herself to whoever she's told to. You could have a path where she becomes a sex addicted slut who'll have sex with anyone who shows the slightest bit of interest. You can have a path where she holds on to Tom for all she's worth and with his help and support, she finds a way out of her situation as he encourages her to go to the police and they go into Witness Protection along with Amy's parents. Maybe Amy's parents are murdered by the criminal organization and Tom and Amy go on the run with the story now being about their misadventures on the road. You could have a path where Tom finds out about the blackmail, joins the criminal organization and becomes Amy's chief abuser. On another path, Amy keeps Tom from finding out about what's going on, but Mr. Roberts blackmails her on the side, pimping her out to his drinking buddies down at the local bar. On another path, Amy goes along with the blackmail, but never fully surrenders, despite being almost constantly raped and abused by the Criminal Organization along with any associates they recruit from other aspects of Amy's life. In a twist Tom finds out what's going on, calls her a slut and a whore, breaks off their relationship, then blackmails her himself making her life even more of a living nightmare. Hell, you could even set up an incest path where Amy and her father end up bonding over the blackmail and start a relationship with each other.

My overall point is that while I don't believe that NTR can work as the core of a story, it can certainly be used as an element of a larger story. The only real limits are your imagination and your ability to translate what's in your head into a workable story that will hold the attention of your audience.
 
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Lurker1001

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Another NTR fan oh my God you're so pathetic :KEK:
Lol... says the guy making up stats to validate that he doesn't like something SO VEWY VEWY MUCH that he claims to speak for everyone.
Look in a mirror before you call people out for being pathetic there junior.
Honestly, you are the one wailing from the rooftops that you don't like something and no one else should either... There is a term for that... pathetic mewling.
 
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Have you seen what kind of wars start when a game with NTR appears?
Sure, but that's because of sad weak dudes like you who feel personally threatened by a game.

I don't much like NTR either... so I don't play NTR games. But I'm not triggered by them either. Lots of people like them, so, good for them! Lots of kinks out there that are not mine.
 

BlasKyau

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It's just that there are more unacceptable people like you who are no longer NTR fans. And those who like NTR are more intelligent people. And they do not shout in the chat something like "burn everyone who does not share their opinion." And your screams are nothing more than disrespect for people whose tastes differ from yours, and disrespect for yourself, showing itself in such a light.
Well, I'm not going to discuss whether the NTR is good or bad. I don't like it and, I'm going to suppose, you do. Both are valid and I don't see anything wrong with them.

The only thing I enter is because, as I understand, those who like the NTR are smarter than those who don't like it. I don't believe that this is a correct or appropriate statement.

Depending on how it's handled, NTR can be a good thing or a bad thing in a game. At its best, NTR can be a dramatic and compelling story ellement, providing conflict and tension which can be used to advance the narrative. At it's worst, NTR will completely derail a game as the NTR becomes the central focus of the story, eliminating the conflict and tension; effectively bringing the narrative to a grinding halt. Conflict and tension are needed elements if you want to hold the attention of your audience.
The NTR will never seem like a good addition to me, at least according to my tastes. In any case, as long as it's (easily) avoidable I will have no problem that it exists. In fact, I prefer that to avoid it, one or two options are enough and then forget about it.

For the rest, I suppose that I will let you continue enjoying the game and I will go find another one of my liking. Thanks for your patience.
 
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drenai1

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The NTR will never seem like a good addition to me, at least according to my tastes. In any case, as long as it's (easily) avoidable I will have no problem that it exists. In fact, I prefer that to avoid it, one or two options are enough and then forget about it.
Totally understandable.

There are a few fetishes that are complete turn-offs for me as well. For most, an interesting story with good characters can make them at least tolerable, but there are a handful that are complete no-goes for me.

Perhaps the most common one that I find from the "I don't like it, but can find it at least tolerable under the right circumstances" category would be Mega-Boobs. This is a look that I find wholly unattractive on a woman, but if the game tells a good story with interesting characters, I can usually (though not always) look past the character design and use my imagination to visualize a woman that fits my desires a little better.

The character design for Amy is an excellent example of a woman that I would find physically attractive. To my eye, she's a little too thin, but otherwise is a fit, young adult woman with nicely small breasts. I find it very refreshing to see a small breasted character design that is not a Loli.

A complete no-go for me would be unavoidable gay content between two men. If there are gay characters in the game, that's fine, but I have no interest in seeing two men having sex. I simply cannot relate to one man wanting to have sex with another man. I have a hard enough time understanding why a woman would be attracted to a man. That having been said, I'm not overly fond of lesbian content either, but as I am attracted to women rather than men, I can at least understand why one woman might find another attractive. I can usually at least appreciate the view with lesbian content, though I would still prefer to avoid it altogether in most instances.

There is also an uncommon, but occasionally encountered fetish that is an absolute, under no circumstance at all do I want to ever see this (avoidable or not) in a game turn off for me. That would be Snuff. This pulls me right out of the fantasy, utterly destroying any sense of interest or arousal. Game over, done and never coming back to that story is my typical response when I see this one. I like to see characters adapt and overcome, or at the very least survive adversity, not be utterly destroyed by it.
 
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Hawkeye3d

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From just another player's view, the developer did good here. Went a route that may not be popular with all, but that's what is so great about the adult side of things, you can do that, lol. As a sample I think it shows the developer could make something worth playing out. Don't get bogged down with large updates and never-ending releases. Make a fun game and release it, people will follow and support. Good luck.
 

BlasKyau

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Totally understandable.

There are a few fetishes that are complete turn-offs for me as well. For most, an interesting story with good characters can make them at them at least tolerable, but there are a handful that are complete no-goes for me.

Perhaps the most common one that I find from the "I don't like it, but can find it at least tolerable under the right circumstances" category would be Mega-Boobs. This is a look that find wholly unattractive on a woman, but if the game tells a good story with interesting characters, I can usually (though not always) look past the character design and use my imagination to visualize a woman that fits my desires a little better.

The character design for Amy is an excellent example of a woman that I would find physically attractive. To my eye, she's a little too thin, but otherwise is a fit, young adult woman with nicely small breasts. I find it very refreshing to see a small breasted character design that is not a Loli.

A complete no-go for me would be unavoidable gay content between two men. If there are gay characters in the game, that's fine, but I have no interest in seeing two men having sex. I simply cannot relate to one man wanting to have sex with another man. I have a hard enough time understanding why a woman would be attracted to a man. That having been said, I'm not overly fond of lesbian content either, but as I am attracted to women rather than men, I can at least understand why one woman might find another attractive. I can usually at least appreciate the view with lesbian content, though I would still prefer to avoid it altogether in most instances.

There is also an uncommon, but occasionally encountered fetish that is an absolute, under no circumstance at all do I want to ever see this (avoidable or not) in a game turn off for me. That would be Snuff. This pulls me right out of the fantasy, utterly destroying any sense of interest or arousal. Game over, done and never coming back to that story is my typical response when I see this one. I like to see characters adapt and overcome, or at the very least survive adversity, not be utterly destroyed by it.
Several kinds of unavoidable content would take me out of a game: NTR, sharing, futa, trans, gay, rape, necrophilia...

Nor would there be much of a chance that I would play a game that has femdom, maledom or BDSM as its main and absolutely inevitable fetish (I have played one that had a lot of inevitable BDSM in its first part, but you could end up avoiding it as the game progressed and focus on more vanilla content)

I also don't like that LIs die during the game, or that it has a bad ending. This would also take me out of the game in most cases.

And I'm sure that I forget to include some fetishes to the two lists.
 

HUNUTAN

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Well, I'm not going to discuss whether the NTR is good or bad. I don't like it and, I'm going to suppose, you do. Both are valid and I don't see anything wrong with them.

The only thing I enter is because, as I understand, those who like the NTR are smarter than those who don't like it. I don't believe that this is a correct or appropriate statement.
Here the idea is not quite rightly conveyed. But alas, this is the maximum that I could squeeze out of Google translator.)
There was an input of those who, like him, screams in the chat from the fact that NTR is evil and other heresy. And not about all the people who do not like HTR. Still, what would I be better than him if I offend other people's tastes.
And frankly speaking, I don't only play games where NTR is. Without it, there are also quite a few good games and it would be foolish to ignore them.
 

Tony507

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Good game. I liked it a lot!
I'm looking forward to more of your work which I consider to be great art.
I'd just like to make sure Amy wasn't too skinny. You can see all the way to her bones!
I wish you luck with your projects to DEV.
 
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BlasKyau

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Here the idea is not quite rightly conveyed. But alas, this is the maximum that I could squeeze out of Google translator.)
There was an input of those who, like him, screams in the chat from the fact that NTR is evil and other heresy. And not about all the people who do not like HTR. Still, what would I be better than him if I offend other people's tastes.
And frankly speaking, I don't only play games where NTR is. Without it, there are also quite a few good games and it would be foolish to ignore them.
Thanks for the clarification. (y)
 
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moogoo

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HUNUTAN I was working on doing a different VN that I had in mind but have decided I want to carry this one on so I am currently remaking this story with better (hopefully) renders and definitely better writing it will be written from the start rather than the middle like this one lol. the premise will be the same but taking into account the suggestions people have made.
 
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