Recommending An annoyed fucking user's Tier List of Games with Actual Gameplay [150+ games rated]

[random Crow]

Hey AAFU, I wished someone else would suggest it, but I guess I will do a little self-advertisment then.
Have you tried the game that I currently work on Potion Shop Schwesterherz?

I follow this thread for a while now, cause I too wanna play lewd games with actualy gameplay, lol.

 

[Xhak]

I also don't like goblins.

 

[Smecar]

some "came for the porn, stayed for the gameplay" stuff:
Magical Girl Celesphonia (CN mod expansion if you like the core game)
Wings of Roldea
Resist the succubus
Last Evil
Princess Sacrifice
also Sexy Mystic Survivors has terrible porn to the point i skipped it, but the gameplay was fun

 

[Shiro1111]

Aurelia in C tier is Quite Insane its top 5 in all PGames ive played due to the animation and story

 

[***Hunter***]

AnAnnoyedFuckingUser
Thank's alot buddy, this thread is actually a treature, I have been looking for months, I got extremly sick with dialogue based games, thanks a bilion for your time spent writing this vaaluable thread

 

[Magister Masquerade]

some "came for the porn, stayed for the gameplay" stuff:
Magical Girl Celesphonia (CN mod expansion if you like the core game)
Wings of Roldea
Resist the succubus
Last Evil
Princess Sacrifice
also Sexy Mystic Survivors has terrible porn to the point i skipped it, but the gameplay was fun

Reading the games listed in this thread really just make me believe that either our standards are incredibly low or there just aren't any actually good porn games and instead we should write "good porn games hidden behind an entertaining gallery delay mechanic."

Having played a ton of erotic games myself, I guess I'd say the only 'good' ones are high quality visual novels with fantastic stories and/or gameplay mechanics that have sex scenes awkwardly jammed into them in a way that makes it easy to rip them out or skip them without losing context.

Of more typical porn games, most of them are actually pretty terrible games. Porn aside, some are carried by story and/or theme, setting, and characters, per personal taste. For instance, I'd never call Monster Girl Quest or Paradox good games, but they're good porn games because it has a better take on the before mentioned than most. Shrift too, with a bonus that the gameplay is quite decent if you enjoy challenge.

Looking at the S tier in the front page list kind of doubles down on my point... and also made me laugh. Without the porn, all of those games would forgettable nothings that never would have caught anyone's interest, all of them are really easy, none of them are meaningfully engaging. I mean, is sex healing you really the bar we're aiming to beat you for "great game mechanics?"

Frankly, I think the cold hard truth is that 99.9% of porn games would just simply be terrible games if not for the porn shielding them and giving them a reason to exist... and I frankly can't think of examples of what the 0.1% might be.

But you're never going to see an erotic version of Hollow Knight, Terraria, or Hades.

 

[ViviX12]

Reading the games listed in this thread really just make me believe that either our standards are incredibly low or there just aren't any actually good porn games and instead we should write "good porn games hidden behind an entertaining gallery delay mechanic."

Having played a ton of erotic games myself, I guess I'd say the only 'good' ones are high quality visual novels with fantastic stories and/or gameplay mechanics that have sex scenes awkwardly jammed into them in a way that makes it easy to rip them out or skip them without losing context.

Of more typical porn games, most of them are actually pretty terrible games. Porn aside, some are carried by story and/or theme, setting, and characters, per personal taste. For instance, I'd never call Monster Girl Quest or Paradox good games, but they're good porn games because it has a better take on the before mentioned than most. Shrift too, with a bonus that the gameplay is quite decent if you enjoy challenge.

Looking at the S tier in the front page list kind of doubles down on my point... and also made me laugh. Without the porn, all of those games would forgettable nothings that never would have caught anyone's interest, all of them are really easy, none of them are meaningfully engaging. I mean, is sex healing you really the bar we're aiming to beat you for "great game mechanics?"

Frankly, I think the cold hard truth is that 99.9% of porn games would just simply be terrible games if not for the porn shielding them and giving them a reason to exist... and I frankly can't think of examples of what the 0.1% might be.

But you're never going to see an erotic version of Hollow Knight, Terraria, or Hades.

Games good at or even properly merging both gameplay and porn are indeed really rare, more rare than they should be, but they do exist.
Factorial Omega is one game I know and follow that ties sex into both story and gameplay.
In terms of having good gameplay and porn but not necessarily directly tied, Seal of Lutellaria is pretty great I think, fun to play but maybe I haven't played enough of this genre of games outside of porn to judge well. And the porn is great as long as you like futanari, but it can be argued that the mechanics it comes with wouldn't have to necessarily be sex from a design perspective, but it is a part of the gameplay.

 

[XulOnTuesday]

Frankly, I think the cold hard truth is that 99.9% of porn games would just simply be terrible games if not for the porn shielding them and giving them a reason to exist... and I frankly can't think of examples of what the 0.1% might be.

That's a little tautological. Imagine saying "Mario would be a terrible game if not for the platforming."

However, you should check out Portals of Phereon (D-List for some reason. I would love it if AnAnnoyedFuckingUser would expand on the rating). It's a rare porn game in that the mechanics and strategies are compelling by themselves, but the porn is intractable from the gameplay. It has some very rough edges, but it could (eventually) be your 0.1% game.

 

[JustAl]

Sscdrake, I understand your complaint perfectly and I think I have your best solutions.

Your complaint in a nutshell: porn games don't typically measure up to the standards of great games. You're very correct on that aspect.

What you want: amazing games that both are great to play and have porn.

Problem: porn games are often built from the ground up on absolute zero -- pick your game engine, make your game. People who make porn games don't typically get a competent team if they even could find one other person to work with besides themselves. Most talented folks wouldn't dare touch the porn game genre, it's practically an industry blacklist.

Your solutions (there are 4, try them all):

1. Use the "Latest Updates" filtering tool on F95, and sort by 5 stars. Yes, that's not incredibly helpful because folks here throw out 5 star ratings like candy, but bare with me, some games are fantastic like Holy Knight Ricca. Great game for a single developer creation. Hunt good games yourself with careful filtering.
   
   
2. You're looking for Triple-A games with porn addon mods. That's more the specialty of the Lovers Lab forums (Google it). They make mods for games, most prominently Skyrim but Sims 4 is on the uptrend. Many popular games have a modder community focus that enables porn mods to proliferate. That said, try to stick with the 3D games please, you'll find it a headache to mod the 2D games to have porn because not only are they often fussier to mod than usual but 2D pixel porn suuuuuuuuucks and not in the pornographic way.
   
   
3. Adjust your expectations. Look, F95 has tons of free games, and free is awesome. Games aren't really important. Just use them as a therapeutic distraction as they're meant to be used. Grab a pile of them then experience them gradually. Recognize games are hard to make. Understand people who make hentai games are usually lone wolves. Understand it's a miracle for horny lone wolves to keep their hands on the keyboard instead of in their pants. Porn games are an anomaly for many factors. Being a snob is common. Go pick up a magazine once it a while and see book snobs criticize the most popular books for being overrated trash. Occasionally see a movie critic rate one of your favorite movies at 6.5 or lower. As your experiences grow your tastes often become more bitter.
   
   
4. Do something else. Really. Go take a nap. Make something cool. Exercise.

I'm pretty experienced in games because I love them, I grew up with a controller in my hand practically. I also recognize the fun's got to end, work's got to get done, and unfortunately fun gained from gaming wanes like morphine's ability to dull pain. You will eventually know a tremendous amount of gaming's mechanics and artfulness to be able to make a great game yourself, but to also never really enjoy over 99.999% of games ever again. We can't turn off our memories and experience gaming for the first time ever again. The fun's reached its final destination.

The most helpful verdict is lower expectations and maybe embark on a passion project. As you mature you'll be happy with these dull experiences and remember the good times as your back hurts. Even a dull day beats a busy one. Then when you become more tolerant you'll be the guy handing out 7/10 ratings on games that are mechanically okay but you swear they felt worse than a 4/10 to you. So long as you recognize how your tastes differ from the crowd you can live in peace with the world. That's important as an adult with friends.

 

[ViviX12]

That's a little tautological. Imagine saying "Mario would be a terrible game if not for the platforming."

However, you should check out Portals of Phereon (D-List for some reason. I would love it if AnAnnoyedFuckingUser would expand on the rating). It's a rare porn game in that the mechanics and strategies are compelling by themselves, but the porn is intractable from the gameplay. It has some very rough edges, but it could (eventually) be your 0.1% game.

Been meaning to get into PoP for a while, but everytime I tried it felt too convoluted. I follow the dev/artist on twitter though, very good and unique art.

 

[Magister Masquerade]

That's a little tautological. Imagine saying "Mario would be a terrible game if not for the platforming."

However, you should check out Portals of Phereon (D-List for some reason. I would love it if AnAnnoyedFuckingUser would expand on the rating). It's a rare porn game in that the mechanics and strategies are compelling by themselves, but the porn is intractable from the gameplay. It has some very rough edges, but it could (eventually) be your 0.1% game.

A platformer that is bad at doing what its genre is based on is indeed a terrible example of that genre. So tautological? No. Erotic games are still games. Sometimes they do a great job at the erotic part, but almost all of them fail at the game part, which is weird, since it should typically be the opposite considering how great standard gaming has become.

Let's not forget Hollow Knight had a tiny team with a pathetic amount of funding originally. Meanwhile, there are still-in-development patreon games with known (slightly) larger teams, currently several times the funding, and in a few cases many times the development time, and yet the demo is maybe 1/100th of the game Hollow Knight is.

I just don't understand why?

To be bluntly fair, I'm not including unfinished games. There are a few with a scattering of currently existing potential and a whole lot of dreams on the shelf, but, once again, someone of them are patreon cashcows that have showed very little progress for years. In some cases, half a decade or more... the development time of AAA games, lmao...

But yes, if games like Wildlife (which isn't even a game yet...), Breeders of the Nephelym, Carnal Instinct, along with many other 2d projects ever actually get fleshed out, completed, and polished, they might be a good mix of erotic and game. Maaaaybe.

Problem is, there are a lot of games like those. Most of the best rated games on here, even if I'd only call them 'good' because of the pron rather than the gameplay, are incomplete.

Portals of Phereon has to problem... decent game, lackluster pron.

I don't know. I think the problem is that I'm barking up the wrong tree. A lot of erotic game artists seemingly just wing the game development part or use 'lazy' engines like RPGM and Renpy exactly because they don't know how to make games, which is imo what results in something barely beyond a fancy galley viewer.

So, probably, the only way we're going to get a good game that happens to also be sexy is if actual game developers dip down into raunchy. Carnal Instinct's devs are supposedly all former mainstream devs, and games like Baldur's Gate 3 have been increasingly less afraid to get raunchy, and as we all know with Skyrim, modders do the dark god's work.

Buy yeah, I guess I'm just kind of mildly surprised that the quality of erotic games remains so poor when indies are basically carrying gaming right now. I know it's not fair to compare but I mean... how are you going to have 10x the funding, twice the development team, and the development time of an AAA game and still throw out some jank, generic RPG maker where the only unique thing in it are the CGs slapped in and possibly the (lackluster) story itself...

Only for folk here to then call it a masterpiece, lol.

Look, I get porn is porn, but it still baffles me that porn games seem to be getting worse over time while indie games overall are surpassing what AAA games did only a few years ago. Just doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Magister Masquerade]

Sscdrake, I understand your complaint perfectly and I think I have your best solutions.

Your complaint in a nutshell: porn games don't typically measure up to the standards of great games. You're very correct on that aspect.

What you want: amazing games that both are great to play and have porn.

Problem: porn games are often built from the ground up on absolute zero -- pick your game engine, make your game. People who make porn games don't typically get a competent team if they even could find one other person to work with besides themselves. Most talented folks wouldn't dare touch the porn game genre, it's practically an industry blacklist.

Your solutions (there are 4, try them all):

1. Use the "Latest Updates" filtering tool on F95, and sort by 5 stars. Yes, that's not incredibly helpful because folks here throw out 5 star ratings like candy, but bare with me, some games are fantastic like Holy Knight Ricca. Great game for a single developer creation. Hunt good games yourself with careful filtering.
   
   
2. You're looking for Triple-A games with porn addon mods. That's more the specialty of the Lovers Lab forums (Google it). They make mods for games, most prominently Skyrim but Sims 4 is on the uptrend. Many popular games have a modder community focus that enables porn mods to proliferate. That said, try to stick with the 3D games please, you'll find it a headache to mod the 2D games to have porn because not only are they often fussier to mod than usual but 2D pixel porn suuuuuuuuucks and not in the pornographic way.
   
   
3. Adjust your expectations. Look, F95 has tons of free games, and free is awesome. Games aren't really important. Just use them as a therapeutic distraction as they're meant to be used. Grab a pile of them then experience them gradually. Recognize games are hard to make. Understand people who make hentai games are usually lone wolves. Understand it's a miracle for horny lone wolves to keep their hands on the keyboard instead of in their pants. Porn games are an anomaly for many factors. Being a snob is common. Go pick up a magazine once it a while and see book snobs criticize the most popular books for being overrated trash. Occasionally see a movie critic rate one of your favorite movies at 6.5 or lower. As your experiences grow your tastes often become more bitter.
   
   
4. Do something else. Really. Go take a nap. Make something cool. Exercise.

I'm pretty experienced in games because I love them, I grew up with a controller in my hand practically. I also recognize the fun's got to end, work's got to get done, and unfortunately fun gained from gaming wanes like morphine's ability to dull pain. You will eventually know a tremendous amount of gaming's mechanics and artfulness to be able to make a great game yourself, but to also never really enjoy over 99.999% of games ever again. We can't turn off our memories and experience gaming for the first time ever again. The fun's reached its final destination.

The most helpful verdict is lower expectations and maybe embark on a passion project. As you mature you'll be happy with these dull experiences and remember the good times as your back hurts. Even a dull day beats a busy one. Then when you become more tolerant you'll be the guy handing out 7/10 ratings on games that are mechanically okay but you swear they felt worse than a 4/10 to you. So long as you recognize how your tastes differ from the crowd you can live in peace with the world. That's important as an adult with friends.

Reread my post. I already talked about some of your points and refuse the excuse of "game dev hard, poor devs, just call whatever they happen to make masterpieces" to the point where I will spray you with a water bottle and stop reading if you use it again.

Most of the 5 star games are decent, unfinished (99% of them), or really not all that great. Or they're great porn, but not great porn games.

You're looking for Triple-A games with porn addon mods.

No, I'm not. If you take part of the normal game space, you'd know indies are the kings even if AAA games steal the spotlight for casuals from time to time.

As I've again already said, I don't know why a smaller team with less funding and using less development time can make a fantastic game, but an indie porn game developer can't do the same with more of everything. In my previous post, I took a guess why though (most of them aren't game devs, they're just porn makes shoehorning their porn into a game format, which is why so many use easy engines like renpy and RPGM and keep those engines in their most basic templates most of the time).

Adjust your expectations.

If I'm playing erotic games at all, I'm already lowering my expectations to rock bottom. There is no way I could play some jank, basic-template RPG maker game and even enjoy it a little otherwise.

Exception being some of the higher production stuff, but for better or worse 99% of that is limited to visual novels which is its own host of various issues and as a genre has its own numerous problems, like how most erotic VNs have zero context for erotic content--usually so they can rip it out for the All Ages Version without messing with the story.

Do something else.

Really. Go take a nap. Make something cool. Exercise.

Brotha, what the hell is this? I'm not lamenting my existence over fucking porn. I'm just wondering why it's so god damn hard for even one porn developer (that actually finishes their games) to be decent while we're constantly getting incredible, expansive indie bangers from single, or dual, or small team developers with less funding and time on the traditional gaming side.

It literally feels that indie game is exploding and becoming increasingly ambitious while porn gamed developers be like, "Yeah, I can just copy and paste my old basic RPGM game and slap in new CGs, that will work."

I will admit some developers DO try, but I'd count them as the 1%. Black Souls is actually pretty great all around and the dev added a ton of content for free... Tsukinomizu Project reuses character styles and use RPGM, but they do attempt to add new mechanics to their games and have decent writing, same as Sequel (not really unique mechanics, but some pretty great writing). Shrift 1 gets a pass, 2 less so, etc.

I know I'm being ornery but there are some decent finished games out there, many of which also have passable or even great stories. It's just such a rarity that it's baffling.

 

[Nevalopo]

Am i blind? Or why is Monster Girl Island not there in S-Tier 3D game?

 

[RisenKill]

Am i blind? Or why is Monster Girl Island not there in S-Tier 3D game?

There is no S-Tier for 3D-Games.
It also got abandoned over 2 years ago and is mostly a VN (something the List creator is sick of).

 

[JustAl]

Sscdrake, you're over-asking and under-appreciating. Yes what you said is true, but get this: indie devs want to make money, and the standard Triple-A devs just coast on guaranteed income. There's a reason Baldur's Gate 3 is doing well--its franchise died when Bioware stopped after the 2nd game for over 2 decades, an upcoming dev bought the rights to the IP, and they hijacked the IP to do what they were already doing with their previous game Divinity: Original Sin (and sequel), but more. Bioware is still floundering, etc. Old Baldur's Gate fans who hate the different way Larian approaches design are seeking Pillars of Eternity and such, etc. Point being, indie and big-name are 2 sides of the same coin. Remember when Valve was indie? Now they have a marketplace and sell consoles.

So what of porn game devs? They either want to make money, or they coast on the expectation that they won't make much, if any money. If they want to make money, the porn is primary focus because it's more revenue for less effort. If they're making it with the expectation they won't make money, don't expect quality.

So what porn game dev will actually try hard? I've actually seen at least one game dev consider porn then rescind it from their game for its release. It seemed sensible--adding porn attracts a certain crowd but repels the larger audience, and removing porn repels that small crowd but makes the game more accessible to the larger audience. If a game wasn't utilizing its porn effectively it's a gain to sales to have a crappy game with no porn than a crappy game with weak porn. Which is why as you said, some porn games are really just rated E with porn poorly slipped into it feeling disconnected. It's the difference between a sandwich with and without mayo. Then ever since YandereDev made any game with intentional kink elements look bad, devs want to distance themselves from anything that looks even slightly like Alex's game design and his issues. This includes horny stuff in games, horny conduct from devs, and horny fans. So avoiding horny fans is doubly a bonus to avoid bad PR.

The criticism you speak falls on a scant few ears, and so few of those would heed any constructive element of it that you may as well be speaking pure silence. When considering the world at large, it's hard to believe we said anything. Seriously, who cares about what either of us are saying right now? The large but barely noticeable wave of critics across all media has never really affected its natural path across how many people are involved in making content.

The only way you can make a trend is to turn heads with envy--make a great game that makes so many sales you inspire imitators. Souls-like is a sickeningly common genre after the success of that game. Most folks fail at being original. Some gave up after they got burned. Some don't even know where to start. So if you're not gonna get into a team and make something to inspire then you may as well not be talking. If you don't want to work for free then you likely ain't working on a good porn game. If you're hoping for money fast, you're likely churning out crap porn games with no good mechanics. If you are determined to work for free you're likely not smart enough to make a good porn game anyway. See the problem? The cycle can't be broken unless game-dev Ghandi steps in and takes a beating for everyone to beat their meat. Which typically results in those great porn games that are abandoned in development or an ambitious but ultimately rushed and shabby game.

There's no point in talking. Join a dev team, take a nap, or have sad faps. Whatever. You're typing a lot for eternally zero effect except for eyes that roll away before they register your username to memory.

 

[匿名者]

Wow, that's a lot of words to say that writing a lot of words is pointless.

 

[JustAl]

Wow, that's a lot of words to say that writing a lot of words is pointless.

It was the only way they'd understand.

 

[Tempering]

Sscdrake, I understand your complaint perfectly and I think I have your best solutions.

Your complaint in a nutshell: porn games don't typically measure up to the standards of great games. You're very correct on that aspect.

What you want: amazing games that both are great to play and have porn.

Problem: porn games are often built from the ground up on absolute zero -- pick your game engine, make your game. People who make porn games don't typically get a competent team if they even could find one other person to work with besides themselves. Most talented folks wouldn't dare touch the porn game genre, it's practically an industry blacklist.

Your solutions (there are 4, try them all):

1. Use the "Latest Updates" filtering tool on F95, and sort by 5 stars. Yes, that's not incredibly helpful because folks here throw out 5 star ratings like candy, but bare with me, some games are fantastic like Holy Knight Ricca. Great game for a single developer creation. Hunt good games yourself with careful filtering.
   
   
2. You're looking for Triple-A games with porn addon mods. That's more the specialty of the Lovers Lab forums (Google it). They make mods for games, most prominently Skyrim but Sims 4 is on the uptrend. Many popular games have a modder community focus that enables porn mods to proliferate. That said, try to stick with the 3D games please, you'll find it a headache to mod the 2D games to have porn because not only are they often fussier to mod than usual but 2D pixel porn suuuuuuuuucks and not in the pornographic way.
   
   
3. Adjust your expectations. Look, F95 has tons of free games, and free is awesome. Games aren't really important. Just use them as a therapeutic distraction as they're meant to be used. Grab a pile of them then experience them gradually. Recognize games are hard to make. Understand people who make hentai games are usually lone wolves. Understand it's a miracle for horny lone wolves to keep their hands on the keyboard instead of in their pants. Porn games are an anomaly for many factors. Being a snob is common. Go pick up a magazine once it a while and see book snobs criticize the most popular books for being overrated trash. Occasionally see a movie critic rate one of your favorite movies at 6.5 or lower. As your experiences grow your tastes often become more bitter.
   
   
4. Do something else. Really. Go take a nap. Make something cool. Exercise.

I'm pretty experienced in games because I love them, I grew up with a controller in my hand practically. I also recognize the fun's got to end, work's got to get done, and unfortunately fun gained from gaming wanes like morphine's ability to dull pain. You will eventually know a tremendous amount of gaming's mechanics and artfulness to be able to make a great game yourself, but to also never really enjoy over 99.999% of games ever again. We can't turn off our memories and experience gaming for the first time ever again. The fun's reached its final destination.

The most helpful verdict is lower expectations and maybe embark on a passion project. As you mature you'll be happy with these dull experiences and remember the good times as your back hurts. Even a dull day beats a busy one. Then when you become more tolerant you'll be the guy handing out 7/10 ratings on games that are mechanically okay but you swear they felt worse than a 4/10 to you. So long as you recognize how your tastes differ from the crowd you can live in peace with the world. That's important as an adult with friends.

All this is really funny coming from you!

 

[JustAl]

All this is really funny coming from you!

Oh, it sure is. I never vaguely criticize the entirety of NSFW games for not being good enough, I understand the challenge of making games from experience coding with aspiring devs and modding games. I would only criticize absolute garbage games that are overrated, the kind with nearly 5 stars ratings yet only 1 enemy per level, every room looks almost the same, no jumping, no good puzzles or platforming, bad art that looks like it came from 2006 Oblivion with no mods, story written by someone with the mind of an autistic pre-teen, no music, etc. A game has to be bad in all those ways for me to want to complain, and I'd really just let it all slide without word unless the dev / their fans were unnecessarily childish and rude. I prefer to give advice on how to make their game better with examples cited instead of nebulously complaining that hentai games should be as good as games from companies with more talent and money.

 

[Tempering]

Oh, it sure is. I never vaguely criticize the entirety of NSFW games for not being good enough, I understand the challenge of making games from experience coding with aspiring devs and modding games. I would only criticize absolute garbage games that are overrated, the kind with nearly 5 stars ratings yet only 1 enemy per level, every room looks almost the same, no jumping, no good puzzles or platforming, bad art that looks like it came from 2006 Oblivion with no mods, story written by someone with the mind of an autistic pre-teen, no music, etc. A game has to be bad in all those ways for me to want to complain, and I'd really just let it all slide without word unless the dev / their fans were unnecessarily childish and rude. I prefer to give advice on how to make their game better with examples cited instead of nebulously complaining that hentai games should be as good as games from companies with more talent and money.

It's funny, cuz you are repeating my words, yet I've seen you shit on much better games then what you say, and praise much worse games... If your aim is to give advices, you should learn to put it less violently, and also a smart idea is to give advice to projects that you like from the start. This way you will not look like a pretentious buffoon. And Oblivion doesn't have good graphic, but what matters most is artstyle...If you prefer realistic graphics, I hope your RTX 4090 burns.