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doidera

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Now I am curious, what exactly would be the difference between a lesbian and a "pure" lesbian?!
Because from my experiences I can testify that there are no men involved, no matter what. lol
When I refer to "pure lesbian" I mean a game where it is possible to avoid with 100% certainty any scene involving penis or sex with men that has been tested and validated by someone who has played the game.

When I think in "Lesbian", here in this forum, is the tag "Lesbian" (real lesbian is other thing). Like in game with male protag and lesbian tag in the same post. Simply be two girls in a room until the male MC comes in and has sex with them, as is often the case with many games with the lesbian tag here on the forum as it is used incorrectly in the games and the adms don't bother to correct.
 
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Bobber Tail

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but you seem to think that just Main Character by itself means its a male despite being gender neutral, FMC is redundant if people dont start using MMC for males and something like TMC for trans etc..
It is standard in America to assume the majority need not require sub-identity. White and Male tend to go without being stated. Yes, women are the majority of population and White is only the largest group through vague inference, but still. Even other races use this phrasing. So, MC is in the vast majority of games here, Male.
 

DrakoGhoul

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but you seem to think that just Main Character by itself means its a male despite being gender neutral, FMC is redundant if people dont start using MMC for males and something like TMC for trans etc..
That's just your assumption. It's really not that deep :cautious:. I don't really get why you feel this, apparantly, irresistible urge to argue semantics with me on this in a thread on a porn site. So once again thank you for your concern.
 

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It is standard in America to assume the majority need not require sub-identity. White and Male tend to go without being stated. Yes, women are the majority of population and White is only the largest group through vague inference, but still. Even other races use this phrasing. So, MC is in the vast majority of games here, Male.
i dont know what the majority gender census and race has to do with "main character" being assumed as a masculine form but since you brought it up lets say for the fun of it.. if its the logical conclusion to assume main character as the masculine and make up FMC for the feminine for the few who are confused about it, wouldnt that also call for the need for acronyms for trans mc, tmc? and a futa mc.. fumc!?! and racial specific like white wmc and black bmc, asain amc, etc. a different mc name for every fantasy themed protagonist of the various different demi human or otherwise mcs? elven mc, emc... goblin mc, gmc. etc. etc... eventually we are gonna end up with a 20 letter acronym to cover every specific detail about a character

im not trying to sound like im "Captain I'm-Super-Not-Sexist" here but i just cant see the logic behind this, it just sound unnecessarily complicated, i dont see anything wrong with calling a female main character for female main character if there are doubts about the gender of it, but to me it doesent compute why you on the other side wouldnt call a male main character for male main character if its also questionable, and we do have tags that while they dont cover every base against all the possible issues people may take with this supposed main character, they do cover male, female and futa/trans protagonists atleast, so in the scenario right here we got the MC named Anna(hint right there dont you think) and the tag "female protagonist". base covered wouldnt you agree?
 

Bobber Tail

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i dont know what the majority gender census and race has to do with "main character" being assumed as a masculine form but since you brought it up lets say for the fun of it.. if its the logical conclusion to assume main character as the masculine and make up FMC for the feminine for the few who are confused about it, wouldnt that also call for the need for acronyms for trans mc, tmc? and a futa mc.. fumc!?! and racial specific like white wmc and black bmc, asain amc, etc. a different mc name for every fantasy themed protagonist of the various different demi human or otherwise mcs? elven mc, emc... goblin mc, gmc. etc. etc... eventually we are gonna end up with a 20 letter acronym to cover every specific detail about a character

im not trying to sound like im "Captain I'm-Super-Not-Sexist" here but i just cant see the logic behind this, it just sound unnecessarily complicated, i dont see anything wrong with calling a female main character for female main character if there are doubts about the gender of it, but to me it doesent compute why you on the other side wouldnt call a male main character for male main character if its also questionable, and we do have tags that while they dont cover every base against all the possible issues people may take with this supposed main character, they do cover male, female and futa/trans protagonists atleast, so in the scenario right here we got the MC named Anna(hint right there dont you think) and the tag "female protagonist". base covered wouldnt you agree?
Please excuse yourself from reality. 5.6% is US LGBTQ factor. move on from arguing.
 
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Cornfield

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I normally avoid games with a female MC .
Its a change to play the game as an "observer" and not a "participant", but its interesting.
One observation is that the clicking around locations gets boring very quickly, there are so many combinations, all the clicking spoils the flow of the story.
You can actually go through the whole sequence and not find anybody.
Seamless scene changing is my preference.
 

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I normally avoid games with a female MC .
Its a change to play the game as an "observer" and not a "participant", but its interesting.
One observation is that the clicking around locations gets boring very quickly, there are so many combinations, all the clicking spoils the flow of the story.
You can actually go through the whole sequence and not find anybody.
Seamless scene changing is my preference.
I'm working on that for the next update. I also get on my nerves with the menus.

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I was thinking of that.
 

Lolph Dundlen

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I think this has potential, though I'm hopeful it won't be just another game where the female MC just gets corrupted by those around her, with no real agency of her own. Hopefully we, as the player can direct her to make an active choice to seduce/dominate/corrupt her children, to form her own little harem. That could be fun.
 
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Benn Swagger

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Hm ... I'm okay with Female Protag if there's lot's of penises for her. But since there's 2 female NPC, which mean more Lesbian scenes than hetero sex scene ... big no for me. Lesbian scene just feel flat for me. Good luck dev, I'm out.
 

Bossk

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Yes, the english translation is unfortunately not very special. My buddy who wanted to do it jumped off at the last moment. Therefore I have to make do with google for the time being. Unfortunately, at the moment I can't afford anyone to do that.

I'm still working on the start time. I'm not sure if it's the video or the code. Should start normally in the first update.

Thank you for the compliment. I'm extremely nervous because it's the first time I do something like this. :giggle:
Nice to see an incest game with a female protag for a change, will be watching how this unfolds.

Also dont let the trolls discourage you, every game has some armchair storyteller who claims they can do it better but few ever do.
 

Kass/\ndra

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When I refer to "pure lesbian" I mean a game where it is possible to avoid with 100% certainty any scene involving penis or sex with men that has been tested and validated by someone who has played the game.

When I think in "Lesbian", here in this forum, is the tag "Lesbian" (real lesbian is other thing). Like in game with male protag and lesbian tag in the same post. Simply be two girls in a room until the male MC comes in and has sex with them, as is often the case with many games with the lesbian tag here on the forum as it is used incorrectly in the games and the adms don't bother to correct.

Oh, sorry, didn't see your reply earlier.
I hear you, had to find out about this tomfoolery the hard way and of course the usage of the tag is utter BS around here.

And now, why am I stuck with this image in my head of handing out awards, like the Distinguished Medal of pure Lesbianism (Criteria: Female individual has not partaken in sexual acts involving any men and has successfully avoided male reproductive organs hundred percent at all times. God bless our vaginas!)...


Lesbian scene just feel flat for me.

Well, they don't just feel flat, they are flat, because so many developers simply add them to make their games more appealing to a broader audience (or some of their patreons bugged them long enough to do so), while putting zero effort into those scenes compared to the main games.
 

doidera

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And now, why am I stuck with this image in my head of handing out awards, like the Distinguished Medal of pure Lesbianism (Criteria: Female individual has not partaken in sexual acts involving any men and has successfully avoided male reproductive organs hundred percent at all times. God bless our vaginas!)...
I prefer tags to be used correctly than a medal. But, I think it was clear what I meant by cm pure lesbian. It is the need to be very specific because something is badly done and, in order not to make mistakes, you need to be very accurate.
But, it's a whim of mine because I don't like dicks. Who likes, has no problem with that

If the protagonist is female and gets involved with men and women, a bisexual tag would do the trick;
If she only gets involved with women, then she uses the lesbian tag. Problem solved.
I think we should distribute medals to those who use the right tag, not the case you mentioned
 

Kass/\ndra

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I prefer tags to be used correctly than a medal. But, I think it was clear what I meant by cm pure lesbian. It is the need to be very specific because something is badly done and, in order not to make mistakes, you need to be very accurate.
But, it's a whim of mine because I don't like dicks. Who likes, has no problem with that

If the protagonist is female and gets involved with men and women, a bisexual tag would do the trick;
If she only gets involved with women, then she uses the lesbian tag. Problem solved.
I think we should distribute medals to those who use the right tag, not the case you mentioned

Hey, no arguments here from my side about how messed up the tags are.
The whole medal thing was just my way of expressing (in a sarcastic way, just to be clear) of how annoying this all is.

So, I'm a lesbian and you can't imagine how surprised I was when I first saw all those games with the lesbian tag on it. (I was almost giggling with glee.)
Well, after trying some of those games, I was slightly irritated; that was surly not what I was looking for, like hell no.
After a few more I was just pissed off, because, yeah, I sure as fuck don't want dicks in my games either, but silly old me thought that this was a given that there were no such scenes with the character I was playing as.

And to everyone who was trying to tell me, that in some games it would just be a few scenes with dicks and that you simply could ignore or skip through it, I'd like to say this:
Why don't put in some random gay sex scenes for the male MC in your favorite games?
I mean, who cares, just a few scenes, skip or ignore, right?
Everyone would be screaming bloody murder, but I should just go along with it? Hell no, again.
And I'm pretty sure that this is a well known problem, one that could be solved by adding a few more tags.
You gave a good example with the bisexual tag, good thinking.
Well I could go on and on about this, but I don't think this is the right place to do so.

Anyway, sorry for bugging you and have a nice day.
 
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