VN Ren'Py Abandoned Another Man's Wife [v1.092] [Too Perilous]

[Nafig]

Just because someone has a fantasy of multiple partners doesn't mean they want to make it a reality.

Maybe so, but there is a nuance. Steph knows that MC is home, but makes loud noises that MC hears on the first floor. Dialogue between MC and Steph during the “confession”: e “But this was a big one that had to do with our sex life.” s "So do masterbation and porn." s "Do you want to have a conversation with me about the types of porn you enjoy, when you watch it and all of your masterbation habbits?" s "I can go get my dildo if you want, and we can both lay all our cards on the table right now." s "Better yet, why don't I bring my feminine hygiene products . . ." In this dialogue, Steph makes it clear that this “process” is a very personal matter, which she will not share. And suddenly, she begins the “process” where the MC is actually standing outside the door and can come in at any moment. She makes sounds that ATTRACT the MC’s attention, and when the MC enters the bedroom, she also comments on all the actions out loud. Steph talks about multiple partners. It looks a lot like a thick HINT.
Steph knew about Jason's proposal and decided to push MC towards the “right” decision.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

I have a question.
Making a “confession” Steph repeats that she did not want/plan/dream about an open marriage. On Friday at home, before MC told her about Jason's proposal, she actively fantasized about group sex. In marriage, group sex is possible only in two options - infidelity or open marriage. You can't dream of one without the other, like Chuck without a gangbang. What was she dreaming about in the bedroom? This episode refutes all of Steph’s claims that before talking to MC she “didn’t want to” and only MC convinced her.
Does this episode come up during Steph's "confession"? I did not see.

I differentiate an "open marriage" or an "open relationship" from a couple occassionally swinging, maybe I'm the only one. Open relationship has a connotation of neither partner having a responsibility to the other to neccesarily inform them of what they're doing on the side.

But either way, she's still a piece of shit because she kept all this from him when it was extremely important to her. And no - it wouldnt require her making it a reality, but if it's simply a common fantasy, I'd expect it to be shared at some point.

I would feel guilty if I were married to someone for a few years, and I harbored some singular fantasy which I spent all my "Sexual fantasy" time and energy on and I never shared it with them. No, a person's not "OBLIGATED" to, but that doesnt seem like an emotionally communicative relationship.

 

[NewTricks]

I have a question.
Making a “confession” Steph repeats that she did not want/plan/dream about an open marriage. On Friday at home, before MC told her about Jason's proposal, she actively fantasized about group sex. In marriage, group sex is possible only in two options - infidelity or open marriage. You can't dream of one without the other, like Chuck without a gangbang. What was she dreaming about in the bedroom? This episode refutes all of Steph’s claims that before talking to MC she “didn’t want to” and only MC convinced her.
Does this episode come up during Steph's "confession"? I did not see.

Eh. Neither partner ought to read too much into what the other partner thinks about when they masturbate. What about all the folks out there to get their rocks off thinking about Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd? Too much like the thought police for comfort. There be dragons. It is even more slippery to consider that they are only masturbating to it as part of an effort to manifest it into reality. If you could do that, you better tell Elmer to watch his ass.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

Not a fact... not a fact...
Steph could take money when she fucked Donny, without MC, after the bar. She put so much effort into this.

I disagree. The exchange of money was the thing that traumatised her in the first place. She wants to relive sex with multiple people that she enjoyed not the exchange of money that traumatised her.

I differentiate an "open marriage" or an "open relationship" from a couple occassionally swinging, maybe I'm the only one. Open relationship has a connotation of neither partner having a responsibility to the other to neccesarily inform them of what they're doing on the side.

But either way, she's still a piece of shit because she kept all this from him when it was extremely important to her. And no - it wouldnt require her making it a reality, but if it's simply a common fantasy, I'd expect it to be shared at some point.

I would feel guilty if I were married to someone for a few years, and I harbored some singular fantasy which I spent all my "Sexual fantasy" time and energy on and I never shared it with them. No, a person's not "OBLIGATED" to, but that doesnt seem like an emotionally communicative relationship.

Spot on mate.
Steph should have shut it down and not engaged in anything like a threesome until she was able to come clean with her husband. She was not in a place to be opening her marriage considering the secrets she was harbouring. Honest communication is essential for open relationships, something Steph struggles with. The MC could use some lessons in honest communication as well.

 

[Nafig]

I disagree. The exchange of money was the thing that traumatised her in the first place.

It was a joke.
The story of Chuc is sewn with white thread. Let's compare Steph and Chuc.
Chuc.
Chuck fucked Steph. Chuck didn't love Steph. Quote from Steph: "Chuck just laughed at me. He never loved me!" Quote from Steph for MC: "At that point, I was guilty of keeping you in the dark about a couple of things, but you were hardly the poor fool." For Chuck, Steph is, in fact, a stranger. Chuck didn't talk about the money.
Steph.
A small note. Steph loves group sex (impossible in a monogamous marriage) and loves this lifestyle. Quotes from Steph "I basically said that I liked that too." "I loved it." "And I loved that too." This love cannot be turned off by turning the switch in the brain. This love will definitely come out. Quote from Steph "I missed... I missed the group sex."
MC – fiance/husband of Steph. Steph loves and respects her husband (no evidence). Steph withheld information about her love for a non-monogamous lifestyle until marriage. I believe that knowing that your girlfriend and possibly future bride loves group sex and a non-monogamous marriage is of great importance in deciding the format of a future relationship. Steph manipulates MC, her ego demands marriage. Does Steph love and respect MC?
On Friday, Steph again withheld information from MC. Knowing the whole story will have a strong influence on the choices the MC makes. She manipulates the MC - her ego demands it. Does Steph love and respect MC?
Quote from Steph: s "Chuck wanted to mislead me. He enjoyed it. I never wanted to mislead you, and I sure as hell didn't enjoy it." To not tell before marriage is to mislead. Not to tell on Friday is to mislead. She didn't like it, but she continued to do it. The hedgehogs cried, but continued to fuck the cactus. For Steph, only her ego matters. Does Steph love and respect MC?
Quote from Steph: s "I never tried to take anything from you, and I never wanted to hurt you." Steph took away MC's right to make an informed and correct decision about marriage. Steph took away MC's right to make an informed and correct decision about a non-monogamous marriage. Does Steph love and respect MC?
Double standards from the author. Chuck withheld information - an asshole, a bastard, etc. Steph, who withheld information twice, is a loving wife. Steph can leave Chuck, MC is doomed to lifelong penal servitude Steph.

 

[gedads]

"Double standards from the author. Chuck withheld information - an asshole, a bastard, etc. Steph, who withheld information twice, is a loving wife. Steph can leave Chuck, MC is doomed to lifelong penal servitude Steph. "

you're totally right, but don't worry all those authors resolve that with... remaster! let's change/remove MC choices, more VN style , let him enjoy, initiate the whole thing, maybe even forced cheating men are so mean you know and you're good to go...
dont worry
In real life, someone wishing for a monogamous relation, in my country (while most laws or sentence tends to defavor men), MC could use something called "erreur sur la personne" meaning you're being mistaken about the person qualities and what he/she is in reality which can be used to void a mariage. This ridiculous mariage could totally fit in that category. But i'm wondering why in 2024 people writing those games are still using married people since it has lost all meaning except for taxes.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

It was a joke.
The story of Chuc is sewn with white thread. Let's compare Steph and Chuc.
Chuc.
Chuck fucked Steph. Chuck didn't love Steph. Quote from Steph: "Chuck just laughed at me. He never loved me!" Quote from Steph for MC: "At that point, I was guilty of keeping you in the dark about a couple of things, but you were hardly the poor fool." For Chuck, Steph is, in fact, a stranger. Chuck didn't talk about the money.
Steph.
A small note. Steph loves group sex (impossible in a monogamous marriage) and loves this lifestyle. Quotes from Steph "I basically said that I liked that too." "I loved it." "And I loved that too." This love cannot be turned off by turning the switch in the brain. This love will definitely come out. Quote from Steph "I missed... I missed the group sex."
MC – fiance/husband of Steph. Steph loves and respects her husband (no evidence). Steph withheld information about her love for a non-monogamous lifestyle until marriage. I believe that knowing that your girlfriend and possibly future bride loves group sex and a non-monogamous marriage is of great importance in deciding the format of a future relationship. Steph manipulates MC, her ego demands marriage. Does Steph love and respect MC?
On Friday, Steph again withheld information from MC. Knowing the whole story will have a strong influence on the choices the MC makes. She manipulates the MC - her ego demands it. Does Steph love and respect MC?
Quote from Steph: s "Chuck wanted to mislead me. He enjoyed it. I never wanted to mislead you, and I sure as hell didn't enjoy it." To not tell before marriage is to mislead. Not to tell on Friday is to mislead. She didn't like it, but she continued to do it. The hedgehogs cried, but continued to fuck the cactus. For Steph, only her ego matters. Does Steph love and respect MC?
Quote from Steph: s "I never tried to take anything from you, and I never wanted to hurt you." Steph took away MC's right to make an informed and correct decision about marriage. Steph took away MC's right to make an informed and correct decision about a non-monogamous marriage. Does Steph love and respect MC?
Double standards from the author. Chuck withheld information - an asshole, a bastard, etc. Steph, who withheld information twice, is a loving wife. Steph can leave Chuck, MC is doomed to lifelong penal servitude Steph.

Sorry missed that one, straight over my head. Its what I get for getting on F95 instead of going to bed and getting some sleep

 

[Nafig]

"Double standards from the author. Chuck withheld information - an asshole, a bastard, etc. Steph, who withheld information twice, is a loving wife. Steph can leave Chuck, MC is doomed to lifelong penal servitude Steph. "

you're totally right, but don't worry all those authors resolve that with... remaster! let's change/remove MC choices, more VN style , let him enjoy, initiate the whole thing, maybe even forced cheating men are so mean you know and you're good to go...
dont worry
In real life, someone wishing for a monogamous relation, in my country (while most laws or sentence tends to defavor men), MC could use something called "erreur sur la personne" meaning you're being mistaken about the person qualities and what he/she is in reality which can be used to void a mariage. This ridiculous mariage could totally fit in that category. But i'm wondering why in 2024 people writing those games are still using married people since it has lost all meaning except for taxes.

As Steph talks to the MC's ears about how they will explore "the boundaries" together, I see Steph's boundaries stretched beyond the horizon by previous experience, and the little MC in the center.
Edit.
This is not an exploration, this is a tour of Steph's memorable sites.

 

[Skep-tiker]

As Steph talks to the MC's ears about how they will explore "the boundaries" together, I see Steph's boundaries stretched beyond the horizon by previous experience, and the little MC in the center.

Boundaries is a strange word for vagina...

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

I disagree. The exchange of money was the thing that traumatised her in the first place. She wants to relive sex with multiple people that she enjoyed not the exchange of money that traumatised her.


Spot on mate.
Steph should have shut it down and not engaged in anything like a threesome until she was able to come clean with her husband. She was not in a place to be opening her marriage considering the secrets she was harbouring. Honest communication is essential for open relationships, something Steph struggles with. The MC could use some lessons in honest communication as well.

Well if it was just the exchange of money that traumatized Stef, then that means she’s offended by being a prostitute and having sex for money. (Yeah that’s offensive to her) but she has no problem giving that pussy and ass away for free
Especially free gangbangs is her fetish, probly bbc gangbangs too

 

[Joshy92]

I'm a simple man.
I just want to watch Steph with many men.
And see her get creampied dozens of times.

And of course, I want to cuddle in bed with her after she is pounded for hours.

 

[Skep-tiker]

I'm a simple man.
I just want to watch Steph with many men.
And see her get creampied dozens of times.

And of course, I want to cuddle in bed with her after she is pounded for hours.

I guess you can have her cause no one else want to keep her

 

[sagerock820]

I'll keep her. You guys have been too harsh to her.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

Well if it was just the exchange of money that traumatized Stef, then that means she’s offended by being a prostitute and having sex for money. (Yeah that’s offensive to her) but she has no problem giving that pussy and ass away for free
Especially free gangbangs is her fetish, probly bbc gangbangs too

She was happy banging away for free until she found out Chuck was making money off it.

I'm a simple man.
I just want to watch Steph with many men.
And see her get creampied dozens of times.

And of course, I want to cuddle in bed with her after she is pounded for hours.

You are a true humanitarian Joshy. What would these women do without you

I'll keep her. You guys have been too harsh to her.

Yeah we probably have been a bit harsh on her. With the monogamy path coming, that may change a few minds or at least have people see her in a better light.

 

[Joshy92]

I know some people don't like the conversation about Stephs big reveal.
But I really liked it.

I can tell the devs are really passionate about the game.
Which I respect greatly.

The next update is going to be awesome I just know it.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

I know some people don't like the conversation about Stephs big reveal.
But I really liked it.

I can tell the devs are really passionate about the game.
Which I respect greatly.

The next update is going to be awesome I just know it.

I agree Joshy, the reveal was much better than I thought it would be. There are still problems with Steph's behaviour that doesn't add up, but it was better than I thought it would be.

The devs are passionate about the game otherwise they wouldn't put so much work in to engaging with people. I have been particularly fortunate in that regard.

I think the next update will be very interesting and I look forward to playing the various new options we get.

 

[Joshy92]

I agree Joshy, the reveal was much better than I thought it would be. There are still problems with Steph's behaviour that doesn't add up, but it was better than I thought it would be.

The devs are passionate about the game otherwise they wouldn't put so much work in to engaging with people. I have been particularly fortunate in that regard.

I think the next update will be very interesting and I look forward to playing the various new options we get.

I agree mate.
I'm probably going to start the game again just to see how things have changed.

Of course, I still want Steph to go wild.
That's what I want to see the most.

 

[Nafig]

(Yeah that’s offensive to her)

The extent of Steph's REAL insult is highly questionable. Dialogue MS/Steph:
e "But this was a big one that had to do with our sex life."
s "So do masterbation and porn."
s "Do you want to have a conversation with me about the types of porn you enjoy, when you watch it and all of your masterbation habbits?"
s "I can go get my dildo if you want, and we can both lay all our cards on the table right now."
s "Better yet, why don't I bring my feminine hygiene products . . ."
The dialogue confirms the REAL meaning of the story with Chuck, for Steph it is no more important than the dildo in the nightstand or watching porn. This is a cover for the main goal - an open marriage. Steph's The Great Confession is very similar to Friday night's performance of Wounded Innocence. Tons of lies and pathos and the absence of truth.
The author downplayed the importance of Steph's love for group sex and non-monogamous marriage, limiting it only to sexual life - this is a lie. This “love” has the greatest significance for the decision about marriage.
Edit.
Steph’s story about her difficult experiences looks very absurd – whether Chuck shot or didn’t shoot a group sex video. To fuck for free, Steph doesn’t care about filming, to fuck for money is incredible suffering. Any absurdity to justify Steph.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

The extent of Steph's REAL insult is highly questionable. Dialogue MS/Steph:
e "But this was a big one that had to do with our sex life."
s "So do masterbation and porn."
s "Do you want to have a conversation with me about the types of porn you enjoy, when you watch it and all of your masterbation habbits?"
s "I can go get my dildo if you want, and we can both lay all our cards on the table right now."
s "Better yet, why don't I bring my feminine hygiene products . . ."
The dialogue confirms the REAL meaning of the story with Chuck, for Steph it is no more important than the dildo in the nightstand or watching porn. This is a cover for the main goal - an open marriage. Steph's The Great Confession is very similar to Friday night's performance of Wounded Innocence. Tons of lies and pathos and the absence of truth.
The author downplayed the importance of Steph's love for group sex and non-monogamous marriage, limiting it only to sexual life - this is a lie. This “love” has the greatest significance for the decision about marriage.

I didn't like this part either. My wife and I do discuss our masturbation and porn habits. We don't do secrets and we are very open about matters of sex. We both understand our sex life will not continue to improve if we start holding back and keeping secrets from each other. I do draw the line at feminine hygiene. That is all hers, and is a health issue not a sex issue. My wife would tell me if I wanted to know, but with 5 daughters I've hear enough about it. So for me this argument was a poor bit of reasoning. In saying that, most couples don't talk much about anything when it comes to sex. So I let that one go.

 

[Nafig]

I didn't like this part either. My wife and I do discuss our masturbation and porn habits. We don't do secrets and we are very open about matters of sex. We both understand our sex life will not continue to improve if we start holding back and keeping secrets from each other. I do draw the line at feminine hygiene. That is all hers, and is a health issue not a sex issue. My wife would tell me if I wanted to know, but with 5 daughters I've hear enough about it. So for me this argument was a poor bit of reasoning. In saying that, most couples don't talk much about anything when it comes to sex. So I let that one go.

Right. The author's desperate attempts to justify Steph in any way give rise to absurdity. At the beginning, Steph says how much the Chuck story had an impact on her, she can’t sleep, she can’t shit and Donny’s dick won’t go down her throat, but as soon as MC forgave everything and was happy about everything, the problem sharply decreased to the size of a dildo. Steph manipulates MC.