Hauk

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all the whiners crying about milking patreons are fucking hilarious. they pretend as if this game has been the entire focus and people have been paying them for 5 years even though nothing has been made. ignore the smaller completed game that started it off, ignore that this game has not been the top priority for a while, and ignore that its because the top priority has been roundscape, a massive rpg that had many many fans and the developers shifted their focus to it once the popularity of that project skyrocketed, ignore that people are supporting their patreon for reasons other than this game, all so we can justify our whining and proclaim that the developer is milking the patreons WAH WAH WAH! the developer has been working for the last 5 years. not necessarily on this game, but on games in general, and people pledge money because of that. there is absolutely no milking here.

anyone new here, developers are good, dont listen to the crying, this game got delayed not to screw people over, but because their other project became very popular and expanded greatly in scope.

i agree with the guy who said the coping and seething will be hilarious. heres hoping for another delay so the rest of you nerds can wet your panties again.
the unbelievers may now repent! long have the faithful waited, and our faith has been rewarded! the cope and seethe of this thread is thus rendered retroactively hilarious!
 

Hauk

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broo i thought it has abandoned im very happy now
i think the abandoned tag on this site is inherently flawed, the way it works is any game that doesnt get an update after i think 18 months gets the tag by default, but this game has pretty clearly shown how that approach is flawed, while most h-games may give regular public updates, some-such as this one- opt to go with the more mainstream triple a approach of releasing it all at once, and games can take years to develop, meaning any game that doesnt use the standard indie porn method of regular updates is doomed to be tagged as abandoned even if its still clearly being worked on, as this one was.
 
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i think the abandoned tag on this site is inherently flawed, the way it works is any game that doesnt get an update after i think 18 months gets the tag by default, but this game has pretty clearly shown how that approach is flawed, while most h-games may give regular public updates, some-such as this one- opt to go with the more mainstream triple a approach of releasing it all at once, and games can take years to develop, meaning any game that doesnt use the standard indie porn method of regular updates is doomed to be tagged as abandoned even if its still clearly being worked on, as this one was.
Its not flawed. Its necessary. This is just ONE example of someone doing the right thing. However for every good apple there are tons of bad apples. And that is why its there. More often than not when a dev goes 18 months without updates, its a shit scenario and the dev is being prick. Especially when we have an On Hold tag for when a dev does need to pause their work.

Perhaps other tags are needed, like Demo like this one was. But the abandon tag does more good than harm many times over to communicate to people when a game is truly not worth the investment.
 

Hauk

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Its not flawed. Its necessary. This is just ONE example of someone doing the right thing. However for every good apple there are tons of bad apples. And that is why its there. More often than not when a dev goes 18 months without updates, its a shit scenario and the dev is being prick. Especially when we have an On Hold tag for when a dev does need to pause their work.

Perhaps other tags are needed, like Demo like this one was. But the abandon tag does more good than harm many times over to communicate to people when a game is truly not worth the investment.
at the least i think the rule needs to be conditional, like "if the dev is still regularly posting patreon updates to the game's status then it doesnt get tagged" or something.

also a policy being flawed AND necessary aren't mutually exclusive. i agree the need for an abandoned tag exists, i am simply saying the execution leaves something to be desired
 
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at the least i think the rule needs to be conditional, like "if the dev is still regularly posting patreon updates to the game's status then it doesnt get tagged" or something.
That's what it used to be but some devs were posting and still clearly not working on an update so it was changed to 18 months no update, insta abandon.

Devs for games like Offcuts have been posting that an update is being sent to testers for coming up to 3 years so some devs take the piss a bit.
 

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I think the Steam release will come after they work out some kinks of the full version. I mean, this was supposed to be a Patreon only release. I am not currently their patron so I cannot say for sure as I could not read the article Kal posted but I think that's the reason why it's not on Steam yet.
 

Itsyaboi1212

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honestly im looking forward to playing ill definitly get it on steam once its on there. im glad kaliyo proved the disbelivers wrong, hats off to you :D
 

smoked86

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So I'm soft locked on the first infiltration mission. my guy is silenced and doesn't have a wait/pass the turn option and can't do anything. so game over till this get fixed. Cool.
also let us save at anytime pls.
 
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I saw someone post. How they couldn't find Wellz in the new update. The post seems to have been removed. Wellz tells you that he uploads his coordinates to you... but where and what menu do I check? I've looked everywhere and he is as was stated in the other post not where he was in the demo.
 

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I saw someone post. How they couldn't find Wellz in the new update. The post seems to have been removed. Wellz tells you that he uploads his coordinates to you... but where and what menu do I check? I've looked everywhere and he is as was stated in the other post not where he was in the demo.
He is located inside indoor parking which is accesable from the neighboring location where he was in the demo.
 
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Hajtand

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He is located inside indoor parking which is accesable from the neighboring location where he was in the demo.
Thank you very much.

They really should add a quest menu with location markers on a map system... or something. Unlike all other doors in the game, this one is in the background and you don't press confirm to enter. I'm probably just blind and stupid.
 
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