Yeah okay, you have convinced me, i would like quite a few of these points, fuck you
I was so content with her being gone
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xapican
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The fundation is already laid, with June and Kindra wanting to investigate further and trying to bring MC to see his father who potentially can shed light into the story.
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I've always felt there was a possibility she could be back. The secrecy behind her death, reinforced in the latest update that no body was recovered. Not that hard to bridge that gap with a cliché "Prisoner of War" story.
Or we could go way left field and say TWR have her body and she is effectively Robocop (but named HUNTER for copyright reasons).
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I don't know. That's where I started, actually. I'm afraid it will ruin the story if Digi doesn't have an extremely good idea to develop.
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Yeah okay, you have convinced me, i would like quite a few of these points, fuck you
I was so content with her being gone
someone is easy swayed .....I'd like to see what happens in this thread if Digi brings her in a wholesome role back
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I really don't think Kindra and June questioning shit will lead anywhere, not every sentence in a VN has to bear fruition, and even if it did, I think there's an even smaller chance of her being somehow alive rather than them accidentally stumbling upon some evidence of foul play or some shit like that.
As noted, there's just been too much built around his mom for her to come back. Having someone go KIA especially in covert ops is VERY common when it comes to deaths within military.
As noted, there's just been too much built around his mom for her to come back. Having someone go KIA especially in covert ops is VERY common when it comes to deaths within military.
The problem is kinda:
She would have to be hold captive or something for the whole time.
Her being "just" undercover while her son was not even half a step away from suicide and thinking shes dead is ... not mother of the year behavior.
So there would have to be some kind of situation where ava was unable to ever make contact with him which sounds kinda far-fetched. I mean ... maybe she was 8 years in some taliban dungeon or something ... ?
But i feel like if that would be the case, the avn would need to be about how to help/heal/support ava an nothing else lol and im not sure we want such a huge distraction from the story.
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Well, that's just dumb. How would she know anything going on back at home if she's either a prisoner, on deep undercover, or lost in the wilderness. Undercover agents on assignments have no contact with anyone but their handler. I doubt she's on something like that, or she would have prepared something to take care of him.
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I mean MC only got suicidal after he sold all his Mom's shit to fund a project, which his long-term girlfriend fucked him out of. Not that this means much but the deep-cover situation is highly unlikely as she's a Marine, not a spy. Soo if she's a prisoner, she wouldn't know anything.
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I think you misunderstoood my comment? I stated why i deem it very unlikely that shes still alive.
Edit: byaaahh yeah as i said, but if she was a prisoner for 8 years, how much of the points of her contributing to the story will she be able to achieve? She would need A LOT of support and help herself in that case. I doubt she would be in any condition to be the head of security for example.
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Being locked up doesn't necessarily equate to being, what I assume you are alluding to, torture. We already know a Doc that can help her with the trauma, but she'd still have her training and experience to lead security for a corpo.
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Soooo, he does not want to be partners with her (K %50 - A %50) because he has trust issues... but accepts to be an employee (K %100 - A %0). It is a bit... uuuum... a bit... Do you know Pakleds from Star Trek Universe?
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You can't get screwed out of 50%, if you don't have 50% to get screwed out of.
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all of this is very nice. The question remains. How do we reasonably bring Ava back into the story? We have a year to think about it, if not more
Thats really something that bothers me too kinda.You can't get screwed out of 50%, if you don't have 50% to get screwed out of.
Not necessarily about being a 50% partner as lets be real, kinda brings waaaaaaaaaaay more to the table.
And i know it wont be necessary - because this is an avn and kindra is a LI and cool - but esp after the whole cassandra thing and our MC becoming attached to Artemis he should have demanded to have a say in matters of artemis development and made that part of the contract, maybe a right to veto decisions or something like that.
As it stands now he is merely a simple employee and Kindra could use all his contributions however she wanted.
What would he do if Kindra suddenly would deem it necessary (for company growth or whatever) to turn Artemis into a military droid and sell them worlwide?
Sure we know that Kindra wont do that (because its an AVN and she a LI) and the MC may thinks he knows her good enough to not do that. But he thought that about vulvamort too ...
Shouldnt he somehow make sure that his code isnt used by the wrong people in the end? Who is kindra's heir at the moment? Her uncle? What if she would die after artemis completion? Our MC really could need some buisness lessons from Reina himself instead of just offering her to Kindra
Hes just very very very naive and apparently has not learned the right lesson after his traumatic experience.
Sometimes this guy really makes me question myself, how can he be such a genius plus good values and being a good teacher while being such a naive idiot at the same time
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I mean.. why?
There's nothing pointing towards her being back in any capacity, so I don't see the reason to 'what-if' something that won't happen.
Some of the smartest people I have ever met have also been the dumbest motherfuckers alive.Sometimes this guy really makes me question myself, how can he be such a genius plus good values and being a good teacher while being such a naive idiot at the same time
Just because they're incredibly intelligent within their field doesn't mean they have any real social intelligence or a need to think further than what they're working on.
Thats what i tried to point out with his good values and being a good teacher. He doesnt seem like someone lacking social intelligence or someone solely focused on one specific field. He comes across as someone well educated and social. Had a good upbringing and is grounded in reality (until everything went to shit). He was not potrayed as a one field genius/idiot at all so far.
This was (imo) shown with artemis this chapter too, hes not just the one writting the code, hes establishing patterns and unqiue ways to teach her.
And i mean its the same thing which happened already to him, losing all the rights to the contributions he made to a project, its not something which he lacks the experience for to ever consider it in the first place.
Edit: If hes himself unable to demand rights/safety for himself, Kindra could have offered him too (some veto rights or something) which she unfortunaley didnt do either, she should consider what happens to the company/artemis/aiden in case of her demise herself too esp after what happened to her parents. Maybe Reina will advise them into this direction.