Ren'Py Astral Lust [v0.3.1c] [Victorius]

[Hawkthrowaway12]

Hate is my second nature, just look at my avatar and you will understand. So sorry not sorry. I don't have time to read any trifle, especially when I wasn't even on the developer's discord until now. I have a huge archive of VNs, and joining the discord of the author of each of them is out of the question, also because I don't like a lot of these authors.

Well, that sure is one way to reply I suppose.

In all honesty, no matter how to try to justify yourself, coming out guns blazing for no good reason is just never proper. Especially on a thread about a game who's developer has very serious health issues.

In my experience, most developers abandon their works when they realise it's harder than they thought to make adult games, with very few of them abandoning their games maliciously. In fact, if you ask me, one of the bigger reasons devs aren't more open about the state of their games is people like you who let off with both barrels whenever an update takes too long, or doesn't contain the specific content they wanted, or some other entitled nonsense.

This might be a forum for horny games, and all these words might just be pixles on a screen to you, but at the end of the day we're all still human here. Just something to keep in mind the next time you feel like going off over free content no longer being updated.

 

[Penitensary]

Hate is my second nature, just look at my avatar and you will understand. So sorry not sorry. I don't have time to read any trifle, especially when I wasn't even on the developer's discord until now. I have a huge archive of VNs, and joining the discord of the author of each of them is out of the question, also because I don't like a lot of these authors.

Sooo.....

...You download something for free, and act like you paid AAA fullprice for it when the updates don't come fast enough for your liking. And then also ignore any posts detailing why the delay happens because you cannot be arsed to read them?

I mean, if i'm misinterpreting anything then by all means let me know, but this is what it sounds like to me...

 

[wookie ookie]

Hate is my second nature, just look at my avatar and you will understand. So sorry not sorry. I don't have time to read any trifle, especially when I wasn't even on the developer's discord until now. I have a huge archive of VNs, and joining the discord of the author of each of them is out of the question, also because I don't like a lot of these authors.

Just for your info his health issues go back to March 20 2023 on his discord

 

[Alex3Ton]

Я в шоке, очередной потребитель, который возомнил себя центром вселенной. Ненависть его второе я, видите ли, "праведный гнев" его обуял.

 

[wookie ookie]

Я в шоке, очередной потребитель, который возомнил себя центром вселенной. Ненависть его второе я, видите ли, "праведный гнев" его обуял.

I'm shocked, another consumer who thinks he's the center of the universe. His hatred is his second self, you see, "righteous anger" has gripped him.

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[Alex3Ton]

I'm shocked, another consumer who thinks he's the center of the universe. His hatred is his second self, you see, "righteous anger" has gripped him.

Согласитесь
Agree

Thanks for translating my comment. I did not do this myself to be sure that my thoughts would not be distorted by Google translator.

 

[wookie ookie]

Thanks for translating my comment. I did not do this myself to be sure that my thoughts would not be distorted by Google translator.

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Your welcome

 

[Ferghus]

Hate is my second nature, just look at my avatar and you will understand. So sorry not sorry. I don't have time to read any trifle, especially when I wasn't even on the developer's discord until now. I have a huge archive of VNs, and joining the discord of the author of each of them is out of the question, also because I don't like a lot of these authors.

I refuse to believe anyone actually says this shit unironically, especially with that profile pic. Y'all gotta be biting bait.

 

[Alex3Ton]

I refuse to believe anyone actually says this shit unironically, especially with that profile pic. Y'all gotta be biting bait.

(Google translation)
This could be taken as irony if one does not take into account his previous comment. And, in this case, this character really believes in what he wrote. In his opinion, the whole world owes him something, and if he doesn't get what he wants, he has the right to spew crap on those around him. (IMHO)

 

[moonxnw]

Hope someone can pick up this project

 

[Game Lord]

Used to belong to this developer's Discord channel a number of years ago while he was still very active on it.

I was actually surprised he would interact with us as much as he did while still working on the game as much as he was at that time.

I remember him stating one of the biggest obstacles to his game being more widely accepted as a porn game was that it was a card battle system and that fact alone turned off many potential paying customers.

I have to believe this had something to do with its eventual abandonment even if he was sick eventually and that was its primary reason for it being abandoned.

 

[Ferghus]

Used to belong to this developer's Discord channel a number of years ago while he was still very active on it.

I was actually surprised he would interact with us as much as he did while still working on the game as much as he was at that time.

I remember him stating one of the biggest obstacles to his game being more widely accepted as a porn game was that it was a card battle system and that fact alone turned off many potential paying customers.

I have to believe this had something to do with its eventual abandonment even if he was sick eventually and that was its primary reason for it being abandoned.

I don't know about you, but I'd be demoralized too if I was busting my ass to make something really neat, and I'm constantly being told that all that effort is pointless and to just push out more scenes. And if I had to constantly come home to this after working a full work day? Fuck that, I'd quit. The only way I'd keep going at that point is if I had fuck you money.

 

[Pedoune]

I refuse to believe anyone actually says this shit unironically, especially with that profile pic. Y'all gotta be biting bait.

Eh, just means he's a lazy edgelord tying to justify his shitty behavior and laziness by being MOAR EDGELORD. We can still can him out on that.

 

[NaughtyOnes]

Ahh yes the good old I have health issues so now give me all your money and get nothing for it approach. True or not its getting rather strange how many 'not really abandoned projects' go nowhere because adult game developers somehow always come down with rare conditions that do not even allow them to sit at a computer. Seems to be the exact opposite of what you would expect to me. One would think these conditions would encourage more work so they can afford this medical care they all seem to desperately need.

In the end the developers intentions or lack there of are a small thing to me as so many developers stop supporting there projects its trained me to not support it myself, I removed my stake in the game because of the shear amount of abuse this sector of the industry has permitted. While there are plenty of projects and developers that deserve more funds there are two many before them who have milked the system to the point my trust in these projects at large are not worth my investment.

So remember if someone is complaining about people only pirating a copy and not supporting a developer they can partially blame a large chunk on the shitty developers that came before them.

 

[e6mill]

Plonk.

 

[a1fox3]

Ahh yes the good old I have health issues so now give me all your money and get nothing for it approach. True or not its getting rather strange how many 'not really abandoned projects' go nowhere because adult game developers somehow always come down with rare conditions that do not even allow them to sit at a computer. Seems to be the exact opposite of what you would expect to me. One would think these conditions would encourage more work so they can afford this medical care they all seem to desperately need.

In the end the developers intentions or lack there of are a small thing to me as so many developers stop supporting there projects its trained me to not support it myself, I removed my stake in the game because of the shear amount of abuse this sector of the industry has permitted. While there are plenty of projects and developers that deserve more funds there are two many before them who have milked the system to the point my trust in these projects at large are not worth my investment.

So remember if someone is complaining about people only pirating a copy and not supporting a developer they can partially blame a large chunk on the shitty developers that came before them.

I no longer support any dev's until the game/VN is completed.
Then and only then will I either give some money or buy the product if I like it.
I have also stop playing any game that is not completed, I will try a game once to see is I like what is in it but will not play again until completed.

 

[Ferghus]

Ahh yes the good old I have health issues so now give me all your money and get nothing for it approach. True or not its getting rather strange how many 'not really abandoned projects' go nowhere because adult game developers somehow always come down with rare conditions that do not even allow them to sit at a computer. Seems to be the exact opposite of what you would expect to me. One would think these conditions would encourage more work so they can afford this medical care they all seem to desperately need.

In the end the developers intentions or lack there of are a small thing to me as so many developers stop supporting there projects its trained me to not support it myself, I removed my stake in the game because of the shear amount of abuse this sector of the industry has permitted. While there are plenty of projects and developers that deserve more funds there are two many before them who have milked the system to the point my trust in these projects at large are not worth my investment.

So remember if someone is complaining about people only pirating a copy and not supporting a developer they can partially blame a large chunk on the shitty developers that came before them.

I don't think it's strange at all. If you had to work a full time job and still pump out regular, decent-sized updates by your lonesome, you're bound to either burn out or develop some kind of health issue. Keep in mind that stress and fatigue are strong contributing factors to developing any kind of disease.

 

[Game Lord]

I do wonder if he was starting to hit a wall writing material, story wise anyway, when it came to updating the game each time and that played a part in all this?

I often times think this plays the biggest part in why so many of these games are ultimately abandoned.

 

[Skeltom]

I don't think it's strange at all. If you had to work a full time job and still pump out regular, decent-sized updates by your lonesome, you're bound to either burn out or develop some kind of health issue. Keep in mind that stress and fatigue are strong contributing factors to developing any kind of disease.

I'm on the other side of the fence with that. Just look through the countless abandoned projects around here to see why they are no longer in development. I'll save you some time, 90% of them are the same catchall excuse. Physical or mental health issues, full stop. It gets used so much that even if it were true for someone how the hell would you even know. It's an easy out and I have stopped just taking devs at their word a long time ago.

 

[Ferghus]

I'm on the other side of the fence with that. Just look through the countless abandoned projects around here to see why they are no longer in development. I'll save you some time, 90% of them are the same catchall excuse. Physical or mental health issues, full stop. It gets used so much that even if it were true for someone how the hell would you even know. It's an easy out and I have stopped just taking devs at their word a long time ago.

It's a common excuse because it's a common problem.
I don't know about you, but I've seen people in real life's hair gradually turn white due to overwhelming stress, or visit urgent care or the hospital more often because stress and lack of rest, compounding with other risk factors, resulted in drastic and sudden deterioration of their health. I shouldn't have to explain how mental health works, because I'm sure everyone at least knows one person dealing with it. One day they look alright, and half a year later they're no longer alright. Again, working a full time job and trying to meet game development expectations separately will absolutely do that to you.

The real issue isn't whether people are really getting sick physically or mentally, it's the fact that game development is very resource demanding, and a lot of people go into it underestimating the challenge or overestimating their own abilities. Elbow grease and optimism can only carry you so far. And it doesn't help that people who don't make games and don't understand how hard it is being quick to accuse them of milking, scamming, or otherwise wasting the money they're given. It's equivalent to working in a toxic work environment. Is it really that hard to see how people can get fucked up by months and years of enduring this?