Ren'Py Completed Babysitter [Final v0.2.2b] [T4bbo]

[Siddington]

The choices that can lead to NTR are all pretty logical, even without the walkthrough. I mean, for the Silver hotel scene that set this whole thing off, you literally had to decide not to warn Christine when given the option to do so. We have made it clearer that it is an important choice in this latest patch as well. The Robert stuff is slightly less straightforward, but choices have consequences. T the updated walktgrough should help a lot too.

They being said, you'd can't lock Chris up in your apartment and have her never get hit on. Robert and Silver are both in the game and they can and will hit on Christine.

I understand that and that's fine. If I wanted to see the object of my affections get hit on by multiple dickheads I could just pull from my own memories and experiences in life unfortunately. I certainly don't play games like these to experience it and I would certainly not pay for that privilege. This game clearly has gone down a path that I don't like and that is that. I am disappointed and I think that is why I have checked back every now and then. This game has become an NTR minefield. You must watch every single step to avoid it. Not much fun for people except for those who are a fan of getting blown up. I know my criticism/opinion is unimportant and I honestly just believe we are all repeating ourselves at this point. As you've said "The game is what it is" and that's that.

 

[Burt Reynolds Mustache]

@Siddington Hey, your critique is your critique, and that is fine. There are things you like and things you do not. If you do like the characters though I would say give it a shot with the updated for a couple of reasons.

First real advancement in the relationship between the MC and Christine has now begun in earnest (with variation depending on choices) and those routes are still the bulk of the game.

And secondly, the idea of having to "watch your every step" is very much overstating the case. An NTR minefield would involve random choices leading to NTR in a way that is unpredictable. I just do not feel like that is how the game is right now.

 

[fauxplayer]

If I wanted to see the object of my affections get hit on by multiple dickheads I could just pull from my own memories and experiences in life unfortunately. I certainly don't play games like these to experience it and I would certainly not pay for that privilege.

I've skimmed over many a NTR discussion, and I've jumped into several, and usually my eyeballs start rolling so far up into my head they spin around to the other side, so I must have missed you or others making this point. It never occurred to me that an otherwise healthy person could feel authentic emotional pain while playing a porn game as a result of previous real-life experiences. I'm trying to wrap my head around that.... Thanks for making it clear, regardless.

This game has become an NTR minefield. You must watch every single step to avoid it. Not much fun for people except for those who are a fan of getting blown up.

And now its clearer why I get exasperated when others shout NTR!!! when I'm looking at it as merely competition. So to get things back on the game, here is how I view it: I want Christine for myself. I do not want to let her get with another guy, but I'm her uncle for chrissakes, so it's not like she's looking at me as a romantic interest---so the challenge is to convince her I am a potential sexual partner while also keeping her away from others without being too possessive, which will drive her away. That's a great game!! You're going to hit on her, and it's a challenge to keep the balance and not go too far over the line. Other people are going to hit on her, and it's a challenge to keep her out of their clutches and interested in you.

It's bothersome when people slap a "don't bother playing, it's a minefield of NTR" label on games like this, though. That just isn't an accurate depiction of this game. There are some obvious, and some subtle, places where you can choose to put Christine in places where she'll be with others, and even then it seems more a voyeur fetish than NTR, because you as the MC are consciously selecting to push her towards those others rather than being cucked for making mistakes.

But to your original point, yes, I guess if it's not a fun experience playing a game where the object of your pursuit is hit on by other men, then this isn't the game for you.

 

[rodneyeatme]

There are some obvious, and some subtle, places where you can choose to put Christine in places where she'll be with others, and even then it seems more a voyeur fetish than NTR, because you as the MC are consciously selecting to push her towards those others rather than being cucked for making mistakes.

I agree with a lot of what you say but this is not right. Two or three versions ago, it was looking an awful lot like a sexless MC making a choice of cuck, black cuck, lady cuck or game over. And those early game overs were relentless.

Still, while I haven't played 0.0.9 yet, things have improved measurably due to a lot of good decisions and planning by T4bbo.

 

[fauxplayer]

I agree with a lot of what you say but this is not right. Two or three versions ago, it was looking an awful lot like a sexless MC making a choice of cuck, black cuck, lady cuck or game over. And those early game overs were relentless.

Still, while I haven't played 0.0.9 yet, things have improved measurably due to a lot of good decisions and planning by T4bbo.

That's fair. I have only played v0.9 since starting to play 0.2 months ago and then being so annoyed with how the player had to walk around the apt I stopped playing without getting anywhere in the story. Just rediscovering it now.

If previous versions were like that without tags or warnings, it makes sense people would be annoyed. I still stand by my comment that slapping that label on this current version isn't accurate.

 

[Siddington]

It never occurred to me that an otherwise healthy person could feel authentic emotional pain while playing a porn game as a result of previous real-life experiences.

If this were a simple porn game I could agree with you but it's not. This is a visual novel where you're mean't to get invested in characters, identify with them and what happens to them. Obviously I understand that most people maybe don't get as emotionally involved in fiction as I do and that is clearly my failing, but thank you for the insult though.

But to your original point, yes, I guess if it's not a fun experience playing a game where the object of your pursuit is hit on by other men, then this isn't the game for you.

I think this is the one thing we can agree on.

I'll concede that perhaps "NTR minefield" is a bit strong but it certainly doesn't help that there are so many routes to dodge. Also I don't remember ever saying "don't bother playing, it's a minefield of NTR" just that I won't be playing. How others take my opinion is up to them.

 

[Eye-switcher]

Or...you could just play one of the other hundreds of games that do not include NTR...just saying, its possible, there even are some good ones out there.

 

[Dig]

I got the scene after the hot tub, after Kristin was gone, tried all possible steps, but the game does not go on (there are always wrong attempts everywhere).

 

[fauxplayer]

If this were a simple porn game I could agree with you but it's not. This is a visual novel where you're mean't to get invested in characters, identify with them and what happens to them. Obviously I understand that most people maybe don't get as emotionally involved in fiction as I do and that is clearly my failing, but thank you for the insult though.

It was not my intention to insult you. I reread my post and can see how it might sound that way. I was actually having a light-bulb moment when it comes to NTR discussions because of your honest post about how playing games with that content makes you feel. As someone who does not get very emotional involved in fiction in general, let alone adult games/VNs found here, your was comment eye-opening, and I'm thankful. Peace, man.

 

[Ignazzio]

I got the scene after the hot tub, after Kristin was gone, tried all possible steps, but the game does not go on (there are always wrong attempts everywhere).

Spy on Jessica in your computer. If you can't, you probably didn't take her email which should be fixed in 0.9.1. You need to reload and take it or wait for fixed version. But there aren't that many things after that

 

[RedGlow]

Can someone share the walkthrough and fixed version please. Thank you.

 

[19Castiel23]

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[Justme11]

sick

 

[Ignazzio]

New walkthrough looks much better. Those who were annoyed by additional routes should check it now. Every meaningful choice that could lead to NTR is pointed out. I see that corruption route takes Robert with you to the apartament. Interesting choice as it allows you to beat him. But I would still pointed out that he might be not taken. Dunno if all points work correctly but I suppose they should. Decent thing

 

[RedGlow]

@matrax , Thank you man.

 

[gestved]

gonna have to play it again now

 

[dosenspezi]

Ok cool thank you for clearing that up. I guess I was just worried that myself and others who don't like that kind of content will stumble across it because of ambiguous decisions rather than clearly hinted "You make this decision and you're going to get NTR'd son!". I can imagine a few people saw that they'd lose points with the girls for not inviting Robert back and were torn on what decision to make, as Babysitter's points system has been fairly unforgiving since the start and they wondered what consequences those lost points would have down the line in future updates. Glad to hear this is being worked on though.

I do feel this game is far to reliant on it's walkthrough though. I'm very glad it has gotten it's NTR tag. I can easily imagine that the majority of new players without the use of the walkthrough would stumble into an NTR route on their first play through. Enough has been said on this clearly so I'll leave you to your game.

I will keep following this project even if I got to be in similar trouble. T4bbo is obviously trying to fill the void Dark Silver's BB has left behind after putting the NTR plot almost back to zero. Well, I guess it was just a question of time 'till someone else would give it a shot. Let's see where it goes. Since some other guys seem to be deeply involved in his project, everything is possible.

 

[Burt Reynolds Mustache]

Just so people know, after the hot tub sequence you can indeed now spy on Jessica if you have not done so before. Go to Christine's room and look at her phone to start the whole thing.

 

[Madeddy]

Guys;...

x'D Thanks good sir.

#All Are there any news if he add-ed/s new teammembers? An coder like i suggested?

 

[User_23654]

Updated the OP.