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Sadly that is the one major fault this VN/Game has, and why I could never give it all 5 stars... It is a very punishing VN/Game without the walkthrough... You can play this game a dozen times without the walkthrough, and end up at player punishment dead ends left and right, as well as getting wrapped up in the extremely hated NTR crap... And walk away feeling frustrated, angry, and stressed out... Unless you use the walkthrough to avoid the many land mines this VN/game has... And it is a far better experience, I tell you right now, with the walkthrough... Which is in some ways, a bit saddening... But that is just how it goes with this one...
- Nov 16, 2017
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If anyone has ever read a good regular fictional novel and/or book and not gotten wrapped up into the story, with some sort of emotional attachment, then something is wrong... Most people do not read a Visual Novel, erotic or otherwise, for the sole purpose of just getting their jollies... They want to feel immersed in the story and characters, to have some sort of emotional attachment to the protagonist and his/her relationships, because in the end that enhances the erotic material, making it more pleasurable and entertaining... Immersion and emotion are the key elements of a good story... Without that, it is just porn... And no one needs a visual novel for porn... There are literally millions of porn vids, both real and animated, on the internet for getting your jollies... Erotic Visual Novels should always aspire to be more then just plain ole porn...
The difficulty you run into, is that most readers/players of erotic visual novels/games don't ever speak up in places like this... Most people who speak up in these places, are just looking for their jollies, and get irrationally upset when they can't get what their looking for, quickly enough, in visual novels... Sometimes it's that maturity vs immaturity barrier that plays a role in that... And so that artificially makes it seem, in some cases, that most people want just the porn stuff... Which is not true, because look at the genre, and you'll see the best and/or most popular erotic visual novels, over the last 10+ years, are either balanced, or have plenty of good story telling along side the erotic stuff... And just because it's downloaded a lot, doesn't automatically make it good or one of the best... Notoriety is not the same as popularity...
And I'm not including Hentai in any of this discussion, because that stuff is all over the place and is as it is due to the culture it comes from... It's a whole other breed...
- Nov 6, 2017
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what i want is an option to kill robert. he needs it, he's a retard.
There should be a way to kill both of them. Silver you can push his shit stain of an ass through his big glass office window and make him fly or do something to the floor to cause them to slip and crash through the window and then offer his secretary a job and Robert you can push his ass out in front of the train or jimmy their car and get them drunk and let them leave and crash or poison their drink.
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omg even better, send silver flying off the building and just as he is about to impact, robert is walking by and splats both of them dead!
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Even better have silver have a hard on when he is falling and his dick ends up skull fucking him.
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Even better have silver have a hard on when he is falling and his dick ends up skull fucking him.
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Just having some fun but this is all I could think of. I guess we must be doing something right if you hate the characters you are supposed to. You guys made a rough day a lot better... Thank you!
You need to stop Robert when Christine is sitting on his lap. If you do, and Jessica's horny level is high enough, you're good to go.
I took this time the silver route and if BY GOD HE DARES TO DO SOMETHING, I hope the uncle will become the new Brian Mills a.k.a. the dad from Taken and he kills everyone or at least hurts all who dared touch his precious little girl.
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I completely agree about getting wrapped up into a good story. I enjoy adult games and erotic fiction that makes me care about the characters. I didn't meant to imply I didn't understand what it's like to be immersed in a good story, even a good "porn" story. I particularly enjoy Dreaming of Dana, College Life, Gates: The Opening, and especially anything by Tlaero because I care about the characters and get wrapped up in the story. It makes the eroticism more erotic, for sure!
I was speaking more toward attaching or projecting emotions from my past, good or bad. For example, I have a close family member who was the victim of a rape. Thinking about her experience makes my blood boil and makes me wish I could physically hurt the rapist who inflicted so much pain on someone I love. But when I see rape in a game, I don't find myself attaching those real-life emotions to the story. If it's a well-told story, I'll get angry and feel raw emotion for the girl in the story, but I don't find myself having old real-life wounds reopened, if that makes sense...? When I play a game where the object of the player's affection is being seduced by another male, if the story is well-told I'll feel angry and then feel more motivated to beat the character and win. It doesn't, however, stir up past emotional pain from my real-life experiences of seeing a girl I had interest in being with another man.
That is what I found eye-opening about the comment to which I was replying; it was a light-bulb moment for how others may possibly feel when confronted with situations or topics in a game, and a result I have a better understanding. It doesn't mean I'm more or less mature than anyone, or unfeeling, or unable to immerse myself in a good story--I value that in a game!
ETA an important point. I have posted a few condescending remarks in the past in reply to people who seemed "triggered" by events in a game. I didn't fully understand, but @Siddington helped me to gain a measure of empathy, for which I'm grateful. There's always room to grow.
- Jul 19, 2017
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Fucking annoys me when the whole update is just bug fixes. The game for me worked just fine till end so they couldn't of been that much of a problem.
- May 16, 2017
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not just a bug fix a new walkthrough as well