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1. Overall how did you like the update? Were you satisfied with it? Why? Why not?
== my first playthrough, promising/interesting game
2. Were you happy with the amount of sexy stuff available in the update.
== yea
3. Did you play multiple times to see everything? Or do you just run through the update once and wait? (I will insert myself in here, and say, trying out multiple options in this update can lead to a lot of different scenes)
== i played twice, the 'friendship' route and the 'horny' route, even when back to try different options not in the walk through
4. What was your favorite part of the update?
== fingering the niece and her dreaming about you
5. Least favorite?
== the old molester in the train.. but does make the story for that day fit.. /shrug
6. Did you feel like the dialog and interactions were natural?
== yes
7. If you are an NTR fan, do you also play the regular routes to check them out?
== not a fan
8. Same question but reversed for those who prefer to play the main story.
== maybe after the uncle pops her cherry, least i hope that's an option..
9. Any additional comments?
== first = is this game still in development? since i'm sort of necroing a thread here
second = how do you get these in-game, i know its the self-defense lesson but other then that idk
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10. What is the meaning of life, the universe, and everything?
== 42 iirc :D
 

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1. Overall how did you like the update? Were you satisfied with it? Why? Why not?
== my first playthrough, promising/interesting game
2. Were you happy with the amount of sexy stuff available in the update.
== yea
3. Did you play multiple times to see everything? Or do you just run through the update once and wait? (I will insert myself in here, and say, trying out multiple options in this update can lead to a lot of different scenes)
== i played twice, the 'friendship' route and the 'horny' route, even when back to try different options not in the walk through
4. What was your favorite part of the update?
== fingering the niece and her dreaming about you
5. Least favorite?
== the old molester in the train.. but does make the story for that day fit.. /shrug
6. Did you feel like the dialog and interactions were natural?
== yes
7. If you are an NTR fan, do you also play the regular routes to check them out?
== not a fan
8. Same question but reversed for those who prefer to play the main story.
== maybe after the uncle pops her cherry, least i hope that's an option..
9. Any additional comments?
== first = is this game still in development? since i'm sort of necroing a thread here
second = how do you get these in-game, i know its the self-defense lesson but other then that idk
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10. What is the meaning of life, the universe, and everything?
== 42 iirc :D
Game is very much alive. But the threads here often die down a little bit between updates. T4bbo and I are working our butts off. Always glad to see someone new come in. Welcome and enjoy the thread.

As for your other question:
Those shots are not actually in game, they were renders that were never used. That isn't to say they might not get used in a later update.;)

Thanks for the feedback!

And also props on answering the question right. :D
 

Kane Salvatore

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Game is very much alive. But the threads here often die down a little bit between updates. T4bbo and I are working our butts off.
ah, good to know will keep watch then :) .. weird that the thread dies though

As for your other question:
Those shots are not actually in game, they were renders that were never used. That isn't to say they might not get used in a later update.;)
more self-defense lessons later ;)
 

Ignazzio

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Is this uncensored or censored cause patreon?
At this point nothing is censored. I doubt anything will be as this game except for a "weak incest" relation doesn't have anything that could be affected by Patreon. It's hard to say if Patreon will care at all about u-n relation and even in such a case it would be just a minor adjustment to change that.
 

nashk

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Of course she exists. But let me ask you this...
How many women are in the game? Does this game have a history of adding random girls in order to sideline the ones already introduced? Is there a logical reason that we would have a new character in that particular location?

I get the concern, especially with what other games have done in the past... but...

I mean, there have been 3 possible interests in the game since what 0.2? Christine, her best friend Jess, and Sonya your secretary. All three of them have very specific roles in the story, and all of them have had advancement in various ways. The only other girl in the game has been around since maybe 0.5 I think? She is, and remains a side character. So we now see a woman in an oriental dress, in a sushi restaurant, and the first thing some people think is "new girl to take focus away from the main girl?" You know, as opposed to the other obvious option?

I don't think I ever quite understood how much the general level of blue balling in these in development games has messed with the psyche of the board as a whole. Now I do.
It's a combination of most patreon projects being too inexperienced to properly plan content in a way that satisfies patreon users, and other patreon projects (allegedly) purposefully milking their patreon to drag out development as long as possible for maximum profit.

I mean, development for a game before patreon was not normally meant to be psuedo "episodic." While bigger developers with investors had milestones they had to reach, small indie devs just had to develop for themselves and focus on the end project. With patreon, you have to have something tangible to show to the people sending money your way, preferably on a consistent basis. Many projects don't do this for reasons I outlined above.

As for milking patreon users, well scams, and lazy/undisciplined projects do happen. I have a few patreon projects where the developer just straight up disappeared. The patreon stayed open but one day they just stopped responding. With all these problems people just get nervous when development takes an unexpected turn, or content slows down. They worry the game will either disappear or turn out to be a "scam."

Granted most people on this forum aren't paying patreon users, but I digress.
 

OvidiusLian

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1. Overall how did you like the update? Were you satisfied with it? Why? Why not?
2. Were you happy with the amount of sexy stuff available in the update.
3. Did you play multiple times to see everything? Or do you just run through the update once and wait? (I will insert myself in here, and say, trying out multiple options in this update can lead to a lot of different scenes)
4. What was your favorite part of the update?
5. Least favorite?
6. Did you feel like the dialog and interactions were natural?
7. If you are an NTR fan, do you also play the regular routes to check them out?
8. Same question but reversed for those who prefer to play the main story.
9. Any additional comments?
10. What is the meaning of life, the universe, and everything?
1. Yes, multiple paths, the story started to evolve
2. Kind of, always hopping for more.
3. Yes, multiple times, one normal, the others skip the known dialogs, ren'py goodies.
4. tub
5. she is a virgin, and stayed virgin
6. The virgin and the slut, #MeToo, Patron rules don`t allow sex streams, but there is chaturbate, but the 18 yo virgin on this days it's really hard to believe.
7. 8. Yes i like NTR and also checked the other paths
9. multiple paths for her to lose the virginity, keep the good work
10. From Monty Python Always look on the bright side of life. "you came from nothing, you're going back to nothing, what have you lost? nothing!"
 

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Hi guys,
another quick peek to one of the storylines from the next version which will be released before end of the month.

To have a quick update for you we are also in discussion and preparation with one other developer to run the games on separate site independent from Patreon in order to secure the game development in the future if Patreon will try to change policy and ban adult games completely.

More info coming soon... ;)

T4bbo and Team
 

Ignazzio

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No doubt it will be another decent update. Repledged as always. From how previous update ended it seems we can expect at least a date with MC/Robert/Silver at the evening of the same day. Probably more. Can't wait. Tho I admit yacht cruise is something I'm looking forward the most. But it has to be like 2 more days for that I guess. I hope that this time release will make no problems. At least we know it's gonna be this month
 

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It's a combination of most patreon projects being too inexperienced to properly plan content in a way that satisfies patreon users, and other patreon projects (allegedly) purposefully milking their patreon to drag out development as long as possible for maximum profit.

I mean, development for a game before patreon was not normally meant to be psuedo "episodic." While bigger developers with investors had milestones they had to reach, small indie devs just had to develop for themselves and focus on the end project. With patreon, you have to have something tangible to show to the people sending money your way, preferably on a consistent basis. Many projects don't do this for reasons I outlined above.
I'll just say this before I started, I always figured that having to go by a pseudo episodic release schedule was rough, especially for small teams like ours, even worse for smaller one man teams.

I don't think the reality of it really hit until I started working on this game. Things that seem simple, suddenly look a lot more complicated when you have a hard deadline coming in a few days. Things you might want to do, systems you might want to fix, all of that becomes secondary to just getting the game out, and making sure that you have enough content. I know for a fact that a lot of devs would do things differently without that episodic deadline hanging over their heads. Maybe Summertime Saga has it right with the "Update comes when it comes" mentality it has.

Don't know how much of a point that really was other than, yeah you're right.
 

ltpika

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The pace of Patreon games, with few exceptions, always ends up fucking them in the end. They either end via the author getting bored or the game getting shut down. The incest crackdown is only the first step, Patreon will ban porn completely at some point, the alarm bells are sounding but everyone's ignoring it. If someone cares about the story they're telling, they should really take care to tighten things up and focus on giving the central characters a satisfying story. All the side adventures Patreon authors start inserting into these stories just aren't a smart idea anymore in this environment. Otherwise their game will be booted off Patreon before it can get anywhere.
 

DarthSeduction

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The pace of Patreon games, with few exceptions, always ends up fucking them in the end. They either end via the author getting bored or the game getting shut down. The incest crackdown is only the first step, Patreon will ban porn completely at some point, the alarm bells are sounding but everyone's ignoring it. If someone cares about the story they're telling, they should really take care to tighten things up and focus on giving the central characters a satisfying story. All the side adventures Patreon authors start inserting into these stories just aren't a smart idea anymore in this environment. Otherwise their game will be booted off Patreon before it can get anywhere.
From a storytelling perspective most of the side adventures are really bad anyways. Even when they're used in the mediums we are most used to seeing them in, Anime, sitcoms, etc, they get away with that because the story is already told through this choppy format that doesn't accurately display the passage of time. This is another thing Dual Family satirises in it's game with the sudden decision to go out of town to see the aunt coming out of left field and both MC characters being completely caught off guard by it.

There's a way to put the characters in that vacation scene and it not be completely contrived though. A perverted Family takes place at the resort, and getting to that resort is covered by the heavy implication if not outright statement that your mother owns the place. My own story has my characters moving across country, and I'm gonna have them make a stop along the way in Vegas, because Vegas is on the way to their destination. Of course, I'm not going to spend unnecessary time there, Vegas does the great service to my characters who are under 21 being able to be left alone by their mother, giving them an opportunity to discover how they really feel about one another without worrying about getting caught.
 

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From a storytelling perspective most of the side adventures are really bad anyways. Even when they're used in the mediums we are most used to seeing them in, Anime, sitcoms, etc, they get away with that because the story is already told through this choppy format that doesn't accurately display the passage of time. This is another thing Dual Family satirises in it's game with the sudden decision to go out of town to see the aunt coming out of left field and both MC characters being completely caught off guard by it.

There's a way to put the characters in that vacation scene and it not be completely contrived though. A perverted Family takes place at the resort, and getting to that resort is covered by the heavy implication if not outright statement that your mother owns the place. My own story has my characters moving across country, and I'm gonna have them make a stop along the way in Vegas, because Vegas is on the way to their destination. Of course, I'm not going to spend unnecessary time there, Vegas does the great service to my characters who are under 21 being able to be left alone by their mother, giving them an opportunity to discover how they really feel about one another without worrying about getting caught.
My philosophy is, if you have a side story or character, use them as needed and move on quickly. I think part of the problem with the games that have 100 different dateable girls is that there is no way to keep content flowing evenly for all of them. You have two options, the first is that you update each of them evenly, which can then mean it takes ages to get to any sex at all. Or you update them one by one, which can totally kill the pacing of your game because entire updates are spent doing nothing but adding a new girl to fuck. Which is great if you like that girl, but boring otherwise.

Games that started well and I backed have fallen into this pretty often. My complaints about BB I won't reiterate here, (look em up if you want), but its getting lost in its side bitches is in no way unique. Summertime Saga had this issue in the Mia update, and My New Life spent months adding extremely similar girls you had to grind ad nauseum for several months in a row.

As for straight up side stories. I agree with you, make them integral to the plot. If you're spending the time doing a ton of renders for a new area, make it worthwhile. Make it a step forward somehow. But absolutely do not let yourself use the side story to tread water. If you add a girl, she needs to be there to further the real story. Oddly enough BB did a very good job with this early on, both Olivia and Kate existed as their own characters, but they also existed to further the story of Lisa and Alice respectively. So time that you put into their stories had dividends beyond just that one girl.

That's just me of course, people are free to disagree.
 

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I just finished playing Babysitter for the first time, and I can say I loved it. Jess is so hot ! Chris well I'ld say I wasn't much into her at the begining but she become hotter every (game)day ...
ok, let's I'm hooked.
Time to get back and try the "Horny" path.
Last but not least Thanks a lot to the dev team for this game that just made it to my fav list.
 

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I just finished playing Babysitter for the first time, and I can say I loved it. Jess is so hot ! Chris well I'ld say I wasn't much into her at the begining but she become hotter every (game)day ...
ok, let's I'm hooked.
Time to get back and try the "Horny" path.
Last but not least Thanks a lot to the dev team for this game that just made it to my fav list.
If you wish to check every given path I recommend trying on your own as walkthrough doesn't mention all paths. It mention only paths with MC. There are plenty of variations as well
 

kiwicami

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How much content was added? last i played was when it ended at the jacuzzi part. I don't feel like going through all the pages to find out.
 
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