ltpika

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It's an incredibly broad category. Traditionally though, it's usually portrayed with a weak or inattentive husband/BF and opportunistic male, but it doesn't have to be that way.
That could be another reason it feels so out of place since the characters interacting with the NTR rivals don't really fit in. A girl in an NTR games need to be dim and trusting in order for it to be believable. but from the beginning of the Babysitter, you can get auto game overs if you go to far. Yet the NTR characters seem immune to those boundaries. Jess' brother gets her rape sense tingling, yet none of the other stuff does? What?
 

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I would say it's a vast generalization that NTR fans are for rapey characters. I enjoy them as many others but I would gladly took some nice guy antagonist over any of them. The case is that regardless of our fetishes almost every male in erotic games is an assholish pervert at best. Almost every MC is the same type of a creep as their opponents and differs only because of perspective. I actually played a couple of Japanese NTR games with fine guy taking over a girl and they're usually better then typical creeps. Problem is that decent characters are really hard for development and way to slow for erotic games. In this one MC and Silver should be kept in a prison for their rapish behaviour and only Robert acts somewhat decently even tho his agressively after niece. Good guys ain't so popular anywhere here
 

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If you came across that scene of Robert and Jess in the hottub could you stop it? I mean fetish aside if some people were boning in my hottub I'd be throwing hands and tossing them the fuck out. I was a pool boy once and have cleaned thousands of pools and hot tubs and nothing is grosser or more unsanitary than a condom or some jizz floating hot tub. Like rule wise I would have had to drain the complete hot tub if I found that floating around.

That picture seriously triggered me and not in a sexual aspect at all lmao
Yes you can stop it. And Jessica can as well.

Which reminds me @Itpika, would you mind tossing the image in a spoiler tag? Just because some people really don't like seeing the NTR stuff at all.

That could be another reason it feels so out of place since the characters interacting with the NTR rivals don't really fit in. A girl in an NTR games need to be dim and trusting in order for it to be believable. but from the beginning of the Babysitter, you can get auto game overs if you go to far. Yet the NTR characters seem immune to those boundaries. Jess' brother gets her rape sense tingling, yet none of the other stuff does? What?
Well, Josh is on his way to getting pounded in prison, so there is that at least. I think given the chance to start from scratch the MC would likely be a bit less molest-y though to also be fair, nearly all of that stuff is optional, save spying on Jess via webcam. Who knows, maybe we'll add something so that if the MC is just TOO much of a creep Karma fucks him... hard.

I see your point with Robert, but I do think you are overstating the rape aspect of it a little too much in the scene we're discussing. It's definitely rough sex, but it's dubcon at worst, and barely even that. Though I will admit that in porn the line between rough sex and rape can be thin. Either way, Jess is very much a willing participant, and not in a rape-her till she likes it way. Remember she WILL stop him if she isn't into it.
 
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I think given the chance to start from scratch the MC would likely be a bit less molest-y though to also be fair, nearly all of that stuff is optional, save spying on Jess via webcam. Who knows, maybe we'll add something so that if the MC is just TOO much of a creep Karma fucks him... hard.
I'm not so sure that'd be good. I mean part of the charm of the MC having the choice to do some really creepy things (if the player starts to think about it) is that it allows us, the player, to do some really creepy things that we may have thought about but would never in a million years do in real life.

After all, the games are all about sexual fantasy and not so much sexual reality. Otherwise most of the MCs in porn games would never get laid and/or would be serving time in prison. ;)

I think it's good enough to have it be the player choice whether they want to be playing a creeper or a genuinely decent gentleman.

In that sense, I don't have any problems with there being options for the player to be really creepy, but it is hard to find genuinely gentlemanly choices in games. I'd also be willing to bet that the vast majority of the players would opt for the creepy choice 9 times out of 10. Which probably explains to an extent why you generally don't see much well fleshed out gentleman routes.
 

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I've yet to see unren.bat work on Mac unfortunately, even with Wine it won't work.
unren.bat is a menu that runs a couple different programs to do a few specific things. You don't need it, it just makes things a bit easier.

I use rpatool and unrpyc on my Mac.


 

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Finally broke my word and played this update despite saying I would wait because I'm sick and bored. Honestly I don't see the big issue some had here. It was short sure, but everything made sense and felt satisfying to me at the very least, and that's on the non sharing path I should add. Since I'm not paying for the game's updates yet, maybe I don't have a say in the quantity of content but overall I've played and paid for many game's that have put out updates worse than this without hardware screw ups.

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Ultimately I haven't been following this game for long, nor have I been on this scene for very long either. I do think both Burt and T4bbo have done a very good job as it stands so far especially with the hardware malfunctions and people bailing the team halfway through and leaving things in the air for them to juggle. On a personal note I've found Silver a bit more believable than Robert, but I'm sure many people see it differently.

Bravo to Burt and T4boo as to me the game is a hidden gem on this site.
 

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@Burt Reynolds Mustache / @T4bbo - How is your progress with lost data? Did you recovered these lost renders or you have to start from the scratch? Would be such a shame to render same thing multiple times
The Latter sadly. We're in the process. Going as fast as we can. On the bright side it gives us the chance to fix up some stuff from the preview update.
I'm not so sure that'd be good. I mean part of the charm of the MC having the choice to do some really creepy things (if the player starts to think about it) is that it allows us, the player, to do some really creepy things that we may have thought about but would never in a million years do in real life.

After all, the games are all about sexual fantasy and not so much sexual reality. Otherwise most of the MCs in porn games would never get laid and/or would be serving time in prison. ;)

I think it's good enough to have it be the player choice whether they want to be playing a creeper or a genuinely decent gentleman.

In that sense, I don't have any problems with there being options for the player to be really creepy, but it is hard to find genuinely gentlemanly choices in games. I'd also be willing to bet that the vast majority of the players would opt for the creepy choice 9 times out of 10. Which probably explains to an extent why you generally don't see much well fleshed out gentleman routes.
All good points. I suppose that it's just a matter of how much ludonarrative dissonance people are willing to accept.
Finally broke my word and played this update despite saying I would wait because I'm sick and bored. Honestly I don't see the big issue some had here. It was short sure, but everything made sense and felt satisfying to me at the very least, and that's on the non sharing path I should add. Since I'm not paying for the game's updates yet, maybe I don't have a say in the quantity of content but overall I've played and paid for many game's that have put out updates worse than this without hardware screw ups.

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Ultimately I haven't been following this game for long, nor have I been on this scene for very long either. I do think both Burt and T4bbo have done a very good job as it stands so far especially with the hardware malfunctions and people bailing the team halfway through and leaving things in the air for them to juggle. On a personal note I've found Silver a bit more believable than Robert, but I'm sure many people see it differently.

Bravo to Burt and T4boo as to me the game is a hidden gem on this site.
Hope you feel better, and thanks for the kind words. And food for thought on stuff with the MC too. Thanks for the feedback as always.
 

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@Burt Reynolds Mustache & @T4bbo , I am getting an error while Jessica is giving BJ to Robert in car

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/script.rpy", line 17205, in script
jes "{t}*Oh, god! This is, so good!"
Exception: Text ended while the 't' text tag was still open.

Before you ask , Yes , i started a new game (wanted to see NTR part of game) and it is latest version of game.

EDIT: I guess it is missing ''*{/t}'' that part at the end of line.
how do you got that scene of jessica giving BJ to robert
 

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tbh, during 'creeped out by Jess's brother' scene's iirc the MC woke up saying something that hinted that MC/Monica already had something going at one point.. but been a couple weeks since i played.. might be remembering wrong.. lol
 

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tbh, during 'creeped out by Jess's brother' scene's iirc the MC woke up saying something that hinted that MC/Monica already had something going at one point.. but been a couple weeks since i played.. might be remembering wrong.. lol
I don't remember that at all. Was that the scene where Christine was playing with the dildo at Jess' place? Or is there another scene I didn't see?
 

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Glad to hear it, I wish T4boo and patreon creators in general would be more clear on what the trajectory of the game is and that they have a clear vision for what's supposed to happen. I feel like everyone here, myself especially, are super dumb for ever getting invested in Patreon games because they all have the same fate: cancellation. Sometimes out of the creator's control, other times due to boredom. But it's happened every single time to corruption games. If they make it to the point where you have sex with the primary girl, it's the end, maybe with a quick happily ever after tacked on. Which is really fucking disappointing because to me the interesting part doesn't begin until after the relationship starts.

There's so many directions you can go with two people trying to navigate a taboo relationship. Is it secret? Do you try and get other characters to understand? How does the daughter (for example) feel about it as time goes on? Does she feel she missed out getting locked into a relationship after her first time? Does she start to feel bad about the incest and want to try relationships with people not related to her? That seems like a more logical point for NTR options to really kick in. It adds agency for the player because you have to try and keep her get her comfortable with a situation that is socially taboo. Or if you're into NTR, you might be in the right to let a young person explore their options to find what's right for them.

We never make it far enough in these games to explore that stuff. It all starts to feel like authors are afraid to write relationships the way TV writers are (hence why people never get together until the last season) or they never got the chance to get into that stuff. This game, DMD and a few others had writing strong enough to really dig into those complexities, it's always sad when you don't get to see anything play out.
 
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