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Yea, those comments and replies were what prompted me to distill my argument into what I hope is a clear if-then syllogism... I will re-emphasize that I'm not poking the NTR embers here; I really am hoping to learn something.



This makes perfect sense. I do the same thing with some games, only I guess that if I get a sense that the tone of the game is one where the MC sees female nPCs essentially as sexual objects, it's easy for me to play it that way. Which is why:
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I'll offer my humble explanation, maybe it might help you see it from a different perspective.

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Jesus, I wrote a lot more than I intended too. Did my best to break it up and make it as intelligible as I could. Hope someone takes something from it and learns something or understands others better. Also a first as I never thought I'd bring up religion in a forum dedicated to the piracy of porn games.
 

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The whole NTR thing to me is kind of confusing. Lets say for instance the MC is pursuing a relationship with a female. Then that female decides to cheat behind the MC's back, with her boss for instance over a somewhat long period of time. Then lets say the MC eventually finds out about the affair because he spied on her one time and saw them doing the act. At that time, the MC can choose to either try to win her back, or dump her and plot revenge. To me, this adds a lot of emotional impact to a game by A) seeing the female with another man and B) taking in the consideration of the MC's feelings. When a game's MC doesn't care if his girl is banging someone else, I'm like whatever. But if a game throws in a surprise curve to turn it into a emotional roller coaster, behind the back, cheating soap opera, I'm all for it. Not sure if that is considered "NTR" or not, especially if the MC gets some well deserved revenge in the end. ;)
Then the girl turns to love the MC a lot more after realizing her mistakes... including the desire to make it up to him. hmmm quite dramatic and nice too. The blemish done is still quite saddening though if not painful.
 
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Then the girl turns to love the MC a lot more after realizing her mistakes... including the desire to make it up to him. hmmm quite dramatic and nice too. The blemish done is still quite saddening though if not painful.
Yes! Or, to make sure there is no sadness, you are given the choice to kick her to the curb and move on to...... HER HOT FRIEND! :FeelsGoodMan: ;)
 

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Yes! Or, to make sure there is no sadness, you are given the choice to kick her to the curb and move on to...... HER HOT FRIEND! :FeelsGoodMan: ;)
Hahaha that could stress out the devs... making a new main route. Jess is likeable too IMO. Chris is a trouble magnet for being naive while Jess intentionally puts herself in trouble for pretending.
 
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I know what you mean by this! I didn't realize it specifically until you mentioned it, but in the first few versions the tone of the game is that the MC is a lying, manipulative douche, so I enjoyed played the game in a way that he pursues Jessica and leaves Christine to the whims of others because why fight the MC's character? I think that when @Burt Reynolds Mustache came on board as a writer, the tone changed, and that's when I replayed from the start with Christine as the focus, and really enjoyed it.

Maybe I'm uncommon in that I can enjoy playing a game with an immoral, depraved, sex-chasing MC as much as I can enjoy playing a game with a romantic, caring, protective MC. And I like games where you can play branches of either path. Just as long as I know which kind of game I'm playing from the beginning. As @kiteares mentioned, getting cornered or surprised or feeling set up isn't cool. And this game doesn't do that, at least IMO.
The real problem here is... i think you do not like incest game. You image the mc as a lying, manipulative douche.
The problem as i said is... that if you do not like play incest game you cant see him differently.
Almost all incest game give the sensation that the mc is like a pervert, because wtf he wanna fuck his family? So you look him automatic in pervert, bastard mode.
Try to look him as a normal guy who for some mistery of the life he fall in love with a girls/women and that waman is for example his mother. Try to understand how a guy can fell about felling like that.
Is for that, that after you replay the game better you can fell better the intere plot, because for the first time you identify yourself with the MC! So ofc you fell disgusted after you see Silver and the other Man.

But the real problem is... and i need to quote other two message:

The whole NTR thing to me is kind of confusing. Lets say for instance the MC is pursuing a relationship with a female. Then that female decides to cheat behind the MC's back, with her boss for instance over a somewhat long period of time. Then lets say the MC eventually finds out about the affair because he spied on her one time and saw them doing the act. At that time, the MC can choose to either try to win her back, or dump her and plot revenge. To me, this adds a lot of emotional impact to a game by A) seeing the female with another man and B) taking in the consideration of the MC's feelings. When a game's MC doesn't care if his girl is banging someone else, I'm like whatever. But if a game throws in a surprise curve to turn it into a emotional roller coaster, behind the back, cheating soap opera, I'm all for it. Not sure if that is considered "NTR" or not, especially if the MC gets some well deserved revenge in the end. ;)
Then the girl turns to love the MC a lot more after realizing her mistakes... including the desire to make it up to him. hmmm quite dramatic and nice too. The blemish done is still quite saddening though if not painful.

That this two guys they... did not understand anything about what NTR means!
First of all the thing do not go like that.
The thing go like this in a Japanese NTR = Netorare story:
MC is pursuing a relationship, MC is a powerless one, someone that is scary also for his shadow.
Then his boss arrive, meet for the first time MC Girlfriend, so because he his the boss and because he his a bastard man and are a man of power he think that also her need to be his sex slave.
So in a way or in another he try to meet her in all different palace, and in all the way he try to force/rape her to do sex with him. Then the thing do not go like someone thing, he rape or force her but then some mistery start, she fell strangelly aroused about him, she start to say no all the time, but every time she always let him fuck her and cum in her pussy.
Every time she meet her boyfriend, she fell at the start guilty, but then little be little she like it, then the worse thing coming, the bad man start to ask her to do... something like amateur sex videos.
After the boss start to sand this video to the boyfirend, so the boyfriend discovery all the shit, but he is a powerless one, he cant do nothing. He know but then nothing change.
You are there and look a prospective of a man, cant do nothing. You just have to stay there and see, and fell like a shit!
The worse thing is that at some point the gilrs, start to make also plan to let her boyfriend see her fucking with the bastard one. She see him cry and she just stay silent.
After if she become pregnant she also say to him, are you happy? Now we are a family!
So the poor man stay there and do nothing. He know about all the thing, he know that also the baby is not him.
Oh yes and ofc she do not love anymore her boyfriend! She just stay with him, because he is a good guy who work and pay all the thing for her.
This is a NTR = Netorare story. Now if you like it, i think that really someone need to go to a good psychologist!

And yes i hate Netorare thing! And is for that if the autor give me the chance that i kill both MR Silver and also the other shity Man.
 
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Any update to the walkthrough? I'm kind of lost with the newest day.
It was supposed to be posted yesterday, but I haven't seen it around, either on the Patreon or Discord, so I imagine they haven't finished it yet. If you are on the main paths not the side NTR paths you don't really have any choices or much content this month any how.
 
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I'll offer my humble explanation, maybe it might help you see it from a different perspective.

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Jesus, I wrote a lot more than I intended too. Did my best to break it up and make it as intelligible as I could. Hope someone takes something from it and learns something or understands others better. Also a first as I never thought I'd bring up religion in a forum dedicated to the piracy of porn games.
I'm thinking you've either already had this written out or have just been sitting on these ideas for awhile and they just erupted like a volcano. Either way! It's awesome when a game engenders this much thought and discussion :).

Let me re-re-re-emphasize that I don't want to derail this thread into a general NTR discussion. God knows we've more than enough of those :). I'll gladly weigh in if someone wants to start another thread.

So since we're focused on this game (right?), I'll say I completely agree with your comments on incest games in particular. And since it's easier to do it this way, I'll put excerpts from your quotes in spoilers rather than break them up...

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I've always found it ridiculous when people cry NTR in a game where the mom or sister has a boyfriend. Uhhh, she's your fucking niece, dude. Of course she's thinking of other guys and not her uncle. That's what makes the game fun, hopefully... you use your wits and choose wisely to convince her that her best option is right in front of her! In this game, you either find your niece attractive or not. If not, you've got lots of other options. If so, you can be a dick about it or actually try to woo her in a more romantic way. All three options so far have yielded good results!
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You're really onto something here. Can you imagine the shitstorm if Liam in Acting Lessons made a deceptive move on Megan or Melissa behind the MC's back? The only scenario I can think of to fit your exception would be Andrew in Twists of My Life--he is only presented as a good guy who has the MC's back against the "villain", and there's a path where you can set him up with one of the nPCs. And it's a pretty hot scene! But if you're playing with Ann as your main objective, I imagine it's not cool. But it's literally impossible to both pursue Ann romantically and achieve this scene, so I don't even know if it counts.

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I've seen this, too. This is where I struggle with "judging" TBH. I just have a hard time not pssshawww-ing an adult who feels bad feelings in a game. But like I said earlier, for the first time ever I felt that pit in stomach and disgust, so this game is helping me not to judge.

The real problem here is... i think you do not like incest game. You image the mc as a lying, manipulative douche.
The problem as i said is... that if you do not like play incest game you cant see him differently.
Almost all incest game give the sensation that the mc is like a pervert, because wtf he wanna fuck his family? So you look him automatic in pervert, bastard mode.
Actually, most of my favorite games are incest games. The main reason why is because I like the taboo but mostly the barrier that exists. I've said this before on other threads, but I honestly believe that the incest fetish is less about anyone actually being sexually attracted to their mothers or sisters in real life. It's about reliving the experience of sex itself being taboo.The scene where Christine and the MC have sex was fraught with the underlying taboo of "We shouldn't be doing this!" Normal adult sexual activities are not complicated with this kind of cognitive dissonance. These kinds of incestual sex scenes are particularly hot for me because:

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Actually, most of my favorite games are incest games. The main reason why is because I like the taboo but mostly the barrier that exists. I've said this before on other threads, but I honestly believe that the incest fetish is less about anyone actually being sexually attracted to their mothers or sisters in real life. It's about reliving the experience of sex itself being taboo.The scene where Christine and the MC have sex was fraught with the underlying taboo of "We shouldn't be doing this!" Normal adult sexual activities are not complicated with this kind of cognitive dissonance. These kinds of incestual sex scenes are particularly hot for me because:

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lol now i need to confess me too XD
Man is really complicated to explain in english XD
Anyway this can explain why i like incest and harem thing. Why i prefer to by the alpha man in game?
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Returning IT how long is the new update? Any sex event with Uncle and Niece?
 

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Returning IT how long is the new update? Any sex event with Uncle and Niece?
If you are on the Corporate or Patreon route and are a fast reader it's around 10 or so minutes. Is there sex between the Uncle and Niece in this update? Nope, nada, zilch, nothing, not even a kiss, there was just NTR content. In the last update there was but not this one. If anything she was rather cold and hostile to the uncle.
 

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If you are on the Corporate or Patreon route and are a fast reader it's around 10 or so minutes. Is there sex between the Uncle and Niece in this update? Nope, nada, zilch, nothing, not even a kiss, there was just NTR content. In the last update there was but not this one. If anything she was rather cold and hostile to the uncle.
lol i only play two route the love one with Christine and the harem route.
I am not interessed in see who happen in the NTR route i hate that route so i avoid it.

So the only thing i can do is... let me imaginated, just stop the two other man with some new plan?
I need the walkthrough i do not wanna lost some event or choice the bad answer =.=
 

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if you are already in love or harem route, nothing you do will change your path in this latest update. you did not expect to be in the same party with your love/loves since your original goal was to help your partner expose her husband's cheating ways. so far this update goes up to gathering info for you.
 
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I'm playing 1.4 on my phone. But when I get to her laptop I can't hit the enter button to accept the password. Anything I'm doing wrong with my phone? Or is it just a bug for the cell verson?
 

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It was supposed to be posted yesterday, but I haven't seen it around, either on the Patreon or Discord, so I imagine they haven't finished it yet. If you are on the main paths not the side NTR paths you don't really have any choices or much content this month any how.
Even for the NTR paths there is only one scene each with christine right?
 

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So my game ended after talking with Jessica in the balcony out of nowhere. Is that how is suppose to be or my game is fucked?
 
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I'll offer my humble explanation, maybe it might help you see it from a different perspective.

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Jesus, I wrote a lot more than I intended too. Did my best to break it up and make it as intelligible as I could. Hope someone takes something from it and learns something or understands others better. Also a first as I never thought I'd bring up religion in a forum dedicated to the piracy of porn games.
Then the girl turns to love the MC a lot more after realizing her mistakes... including the desire to make it up to him. hmmm quite dramatic and nice too. The blemish done is still quite saddening though if not painful.
Go play NTRPG 1 and 2 and you know what Netorare means....
 

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So my game ended after talking with Jessica in the balcony out of nowhere. Is that how is suppose to be or my game is fucked?
Yes to both.
Yes that is how it is supposed to be
Yes your game (and everyone's) is fucked, because we were promised the full boat path in 0.1.3, but if they couldn't make there was a "natural" stopping point, and the rest would come in 0.1.4
Has Silver ordered his Christmas decoration for the boat yet?
 
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