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Thats pretty much how Ive been seeing this mass flood of incest games lately. Father/Brother always horny, has "beautiful" mother, sister or daughter and wants to fuck them, bam bam bam...next.
We can also give some credit to the Patreon business model for this. A good story in itself won't bring in monthly tips except from those that love literature. The authors/devs have to hamfist sexy situations in early and often to keep the money flowing. And, so many of them fail to realize that 'sexy' doesn't have to mean 'sex.'
 

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Thats pretty much how Ive been seeing this mass flood of incest games lately. Father/Brother always horny, has "beautiful" mother, sister or daughter and wants to fuck them, bam bam bam...next.
Don't forget gigantic cock that could be used as blunt weapon in fighting games. But to be fair though, I think writing a good incest story would be more challenging for most creators, especially since most of them are amateurs without prior experience. Added with the fact that incest is frowned upon and very rare in real life, there's not that many ways for these people to figure out what good storyline would be like.

We can also give some credit to the Patreon business model for this. A good story in itself won't bring in monthly tips except from those that love literature. The authors/devs have to hamfist sexy situations in early and often to keep the money flowing. And, so many of them fail to realize that 'sexy' doesn't have to mean 'sex.'
Rather than the patreon business model itself, I actually think it's more about the creators wanting to cash in quickly in a sense that they'd want to get the money while they still can. So they try to include sex/nudity as soon as they could without really making a proper backstory. If they want to create a good quality adult video game first and foremost, they could create a game that is clearly above the common adult games. That would make people actually appreciate the quality and then want to be patrons.
 
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the writing of this game is awesome.realistic not too long not too short.character models are shaping up to be better than i expected.first i found only jessica hot(btw more jes plz).loooks we 're getting NTR'ed for christine by either silver or that black dude.i hope players will be able to prevent it
 
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Don't forget gigantic cock that could be used as blunt weapon in fighting games. But to be fair though, I think writing a good incest story would be more challenging for most creators, especially since most of them are amateurs without prior experience. Added with the fact that incest is frowned upon and very rare in real life, there's not that many ways for these people to figure out what good storyline would be like.


Rather than the patreon business model itself, I actually think it's more about the creators wanting to cash in quickly in a sense that they'd want to get the money while they still can. So they try to include sex/nudity as soon as they could without really making a proper backstory. If they want to create a good quality adult video game first and foremost, they could create a game that is clearly above the common adult games. That would make people actually appreciate the quality and then want to be patrons.
That's exactly what we've been trying to do in this game, but you know what the main complain was (also in this thread) when we did? "Why are there no sex scenes yet?". So the hardest part, of course, is finding a balance between 'sexy' and 'sex' without weakening the plot or losing players/patreons interest. That's our main interest, sometimes we might fail, but the intention of rewriting to thicken the plot is always there.

And that's also what @T4bbo is trying to do with their renders. I don't think there can't be any complaint about the renders quality, and he's already invested in new components to improve it. But saying that this is the factor that would make people appreciate the quality and want to be patrons... I don't know, but I'm curious about the number of downloads coming from this forums links and how many of those are constant and how many are new users who just want to know if the investment is worth it.
 

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how many of those are constant and how many are new users
If I had to pull a number out of my ass, I'd say 95% of this game's players on F95 download(ed) the game from here, and 80% of are first time players. But there's just too many variables to say with any certainty. Personally, I am patron of 6 games (all small projects that would value my dollars as much as I do), and I've played at least 100 different ones in the last 6 months. I played this one a month or two ago and added it to my watch list because I want to give it a few months to fill out more to see if it's something I'd support. Same as a dozen other games. I think people that have been around this scene for a while are not as fast to open their wallets because they've seen how devs can operate sometimes.
 

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That's exactly what we've been trying to do in this game, but you know what the main complain was (also in this thread) when we did? "Why are there no sex scenes yet?". So the hardest part, of course, is finding a balance between 'sexy' and 'sex' without weakening the plot or losing players/patreons interest. That's our main interest, sometimes we might fail, but the intention of rewriting to thicken the plot is always there.

And that's also what @T4bbo is trying to do with their renders. I don't think there can't be any complaint about the renders quality, and he's already invested in new components to improve it. But saying that this is the factor that would make people appreciate the quality and want to be patrons... I don't know, but I'm curious about the number of downloads coming from this forums links and how many of those are constant and how many are new users who just want to know if the investment is worth it.
I honestly think that it really depends on the quality of the game in overall (not just the renders, but the writing, the storyline, the gameplay, etc) because while sex is obviously an important part of an adult game, it is by no means an extreme necessity if accompanied by solid writing, careful planning, and smart baiting. Take a look at DMD as an example where it has been up to version 12, still no sex scene between the MC and the daughter, and remains popular. They kept away the main dish, but they continuously presented side dishes. It helps as well that the writing is pretty good.

Another aspect to look at is content of the game/updates. A lot of these new games offered almost nothing for their 0.1 version. In an overcrowded market of patreon adult games, such games would be swallowed alive and died pretty quickly without even getting a chance to blossom. They then panicked and started throwing in sex scenes which might help for short-term but then shot themselves in the foot for long-term prospect. Similarly with the content of the updates. Many patreon-based games tried to do monthly updates so they could justify monthly donations as source of income. But some of them sometimes couldn't really pump meaningful amount of content for the update which hurt the product. It is worse when it's longer than a month but also without enough new content.
 

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Can't wait for these two bitches to beg for me to nut in them.
I can always count on you, @Infamy, for the most insightful, colorful and pungent comments, my good sir. Still remember the "no brakes on the rape train" meme. And the witty "put a baby in that" rejoinders. :)
 
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I can always count on you, @Infamy, for the most insightful, colorful and pungent comments, my good sir. Still remember the "no brakes on the rape train" meme. And the witty "put a baby in that" rejoinders. :)
What can I say I am a man of simple taste....

I like creampies...

And horny wet bitches....

And wanton destruction...

And you know what the best thing about these 3 things....

There cheap....
 
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I honestly think that it really depends on the quality of the game in overall (not just the renders, but the writing, the storyline, the gameplay, etc) because while sex is obviously an important part of an adult game, it is by no means an extreme necessity if accompanied by solid writing, careful planning, and smart baiting. Take a look at DMD as an example where it has been up to version 12, still no sex scene between the MC and the daughter, and remains popular. They kept away the main dish, but they continuously presented side dishes. It helps as well that the writing is pretty good.

Another aspect to look at is content of the game/updates. A lot of these new games offered almost nothing for their 0.1 version. In an overcrowded market of patreon adult games, such games would be swallowed alive and died pretty quickly without even getting a chance to blossom. They then panicked and started throwing in sex scenes which might help for short-term but then shot themselves in the foot for long-term prospect. Similarly with the content of the updates. Many patreon-based games tried to do monthly updates so they could justify monthly donations as source of income. But some of them sometimes couldn't really pump meaningful amount of content for the update which hurt the product. It is worse when it's longer than a month but also without enough new content.
Hello, everybody,
I am one of those who don't spend a dime on these games, mostly because I dont have any to spare, but also because my wife would oppose against it, hahaha. Also there is the question that most of those games are unfinished.
Anyhow, since I am a horny guy with a lot of time to spare (it is always the same curse: either u have money but no time, or time but no money) I have played a lot of them in the last few months. Perhaps if I tell now my favourites (or should I said the ones I wait for the updates more eagerly) u could see what I'd prefer: living with temptation, dating my daughter, big brother, teacher's pets, superpowered... lately also doppelganger...
I like good images, but above all I need to be lured, tempted, a hornyness awakening, and it cannot be with some others that are just too blunt, too direct, too ...
It is like in porn movies: I despise this kind of junk movie that only shows the equivalent of Swedish gymnastics and lots of gray's anatomy pictures... I need the temptation, the promise of sin, the yes-but-no-but-yes,... So, good plots are a must.
There are some with nothing but nude girls, that could not survive the first play...
So inteligence, sexy and sex, and if posible good sense of humor too. Some pretend to be dramas and are just boring and predictable and mostly stupid.
Ok, I am becoming boring myself, hahaha... but just to share with you, people, my impressions.
Have a good day.
 

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Hello, everybody,
I am one of those who don't spend a dime on these games, mostly because I dont have any to spare, but also because my wife would oppose against it, hahaha. Also there is the question that most of those games are unfinished.
Anyhow, since I am a horny guy with a lot of time to spare (it is always the same curse: either u have money but no time, or time but no money) I have played a lot of them in the last few months. Perhaps if I tell now my favourites (or should I said the ones I wait for the updates more eagerly) u could see what I'd prefer: living with temptation, dating my daughter, big brother, teacher's pets, superpowered... lately also doppelganger...
I like good images, but above all I need to be lured, tempted, a hornyness awakening, and it cannot be with some others that are just too blunt, too direct, too ...
It is like in porn movies: I despise this kind of junk movie that only shows the equivalent of Swedish gymnastics and lots of gray's anatomy pictures... I need the temptation, the promise of sin, the yes-but-no-but-yes,... So, good plots are a must.
There are some with nothing but nude girls, that could not survive the first play...
So inteligence, sexy and sex, and if posible good sense of humor too. Some pretend to be dramas and are just boring and predictable and mostly stupid.
Ok, I am becoming boring myself, hahaha... but just to share with you, people, my impressions.
Have a good day.
Are you asking for more game suggestions? I like Babysitter (this thread), DMD, teacher's pet, and I would suggest you add to your list (since you seem a Daz3d lover), Innocence Au Pair, Dual Family, Dreams of Desire (it did not start out as sex sex sex, but it is going that way in later days of the game) and the two games in my signature.
 
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