Ren'Py Completed Babysitter [Final v0.2.2b] [T4bbo]

[Bagger288]

although it's curious that there haven't been as many concerns by the guys who are actually paying as there have been here, but anyway.

There are a bunch of effects in behavioral economics that describe how people are less critical of things they have invested in (and want to invest in things that are losing value). The same, of course goes in reverse: when people don't feel ownership, they are more critical.

That line of reasoning blurs quite a bit with piracy, since players do invest time (and thoughtspace) before expressing concerns. That helps make the criticism that is given meaningful, as without a time investment, critics get caught on superficialities. There's also the aspect that if you haven't paid, you've given no feedback - so you're more likely to give your thoughts to anyone willing to listen - whereas voting with your wallet is a simple feedback mechanism (for the sender).

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[Jcj]

There are a bunch of effects in behavioral economics that describe how people are less critical of things they have invested in (and want to invest in things that are losing value). The same, of course goes in reverse: when people don't feel ownership, they are more critical.

That line of reasoning blurs quite a bit with piracy, since players do invest time (and thoughtspace) before expressing concerns. That helps make the criticism that is given meaningful, as without a time investment, critics get caught on superficialities. There's also the aspect that if you haven't paid, you've given no feedback - so you're more likely to give your thoughts to anyone willing to listen - whereas voting with your wallet is a simple feedback mechanism (for the sender).

edit: In a very related move, Dark Silver

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that she joined this forum specifically to get negative feedback for her game, which she wasn't getting from her patrons.

Very interesting theory, although that's not exactly what I was complaining about.

I understand criticism. As a matter of fact, in my own life I've always promoted a critical approach to whatever you are doing, no matter if it's reading a newspaper, buying food, playing a game or watching tv.

However, my point was the strength of the opinions that lack certain facts (what I summed up as Conclusions, or e.g the difference between saying "this is starting to look like a NTR game" vs saying "this is a NTR game") and the interesting factor of complaining about a certain route when you are not willing to proactively do nothing to change it.

 

[FroKe88]

Instead of talking about NTR and co.
Does anyone know when we can expect a new update?
Didn't find a date somewhere

 

[Blades1138]

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[trumpthatbitch]

I can't see why people got so upset about the fact that the niece can have other love interests beside her uncle, it is very clear at the patreon fetishes list that we will have MM/F

Fetishes

• Corruption
• Teen
• Incest
• Anal
• Feet
• Voyeurism
• Sleep
• Harem
• M/FF
• MM/F
• FF
• MILF

but I fully expect it to be avoidable as story progress in both paths

Maybe people are pissed because they see the niece as some kind of sacred goddess that can only have eyes for the MC and can't interact with other man, that's completely irrational, as jcj said, her uncle should be the last person she would consider having a sexual relationship with

The Niece is not the same as the Daughter of DmD, they are completely different characters, the daughter is innocent as fuck and have some extreme love issues, that's why she grows so attached with the Father and is afraid of every other man, so she only trusts the Father. The Niece had a normal life as far as we know, she only lives with you because she wanted to leave her mother's house and work, the only reason she would have to fuck the Uncle is because she likes his dick or because he was nice to her, but unlike the daughter she isn't stuck with her Uncle, she's shy but nothing like the Daughter.

The only complain I have is that it's stupid that the uncle couldn't say that Mr Silver is a slimeball as he had plenty of time from the clothes shop to the office, I'm fine with the situation and the results, but a better excuse to why he couldn't say to the Niece about Silver is very much needed, and I think that's why a lot of people complained, the Uncle came across as a retarded.

So you walked away from that conversation that the Uncle was retarded? I walked away thinking the niece was a a cunt. It's just totally unbelievable in many aspects. For one the MC shouldn't have even had to give her advise she should have went looking for it. She's a young lady and a strange old man offers her a job out of the blue and she isn't even going to ask the MC what he thinks of him before working for him. She also heard the receptionist at the beginning.

Also why does she even care if she goes to the meeting anyways she never cared before. The MC leaves her behind multiple times in the apartment but somehow it's important she meet this Silver guy why? What does he mean to her? She seemed reasonable before but won't even listen to the MC.

This is force fed NTR. The writer says well you don't know it hasn't been written. I mean comeon. Honestly if this game was going to be NTR it should have just been tagged at the beginning.

 

[Jcj]

So you walked away from that conversation that the Uncle was retarded? I walked away thinking the niece was a a cunt. It's just totally unbelievable in many aspects. For one the MC shouldn't have even had to give her advise she should have went looking for it. She's a young lady and a strange old man offers her a job out of the blue and she isn't even going to ask the MC what he thinks of him before working for him. She also heard the receptionist at the beginning.

Also why does she even care if she goes to the meeting anyways she never cared before. The MC leaves her behind multiple times in the apartment but somehow it's important she meet this Silver guy why? What does he mean to her? She seemed reasonable before but won't even listen to the MC.

This is force fed NTR. The writer says well you don't know it hasn't been written. I mean comeon. Honestly if this game was going to be NTR it should have just been tagged at the beginning.

1) As you can see, the retarded/cunt is a matter of perspective and personal experiences.
2) Not a strange man, his uncles partner.
3) she is not mad mainly about going or not to the meeting, it is more the fact that she is left alone in a mall far from home and in a city she doesn't know that much.
4) come on, the writer is telling you the idea is not force fed NTR. If that's not enough for you, I don't know what else I can do...

 

[trumpthatbitch]

1) As you can see, the retarded/cunt is a matter of perspective and personal experiences.
2) Not a strange man, his uncles partner.
3) she is not mad mainly about going or not to the meeting, it is more the fact that she is left alone in a mall far from home and in a city she doesn't know that much.
4) come on, the writer is telling you the idea is not force fed NTR. If that's not enough for you, I don't know what else I can do...

1. Who she doesn't know at all and whom the uncle barely knows and doesn't trust.

2. I haven't played the game in quite awhile but I sort of remember her saying something about trust if you tell her to go home. Also she went to the Uncle apartment alone without any relatives with her. She goes out and does her landry in a strange town alone. She went to the job interview alone.

3. For me it isn't even about NTR the problem with NTR is almost all the writing leading upto it is shit and totally breaks the characters. If you for example went out with the nieces friend and she decided to go with someone that maybe NTR but would be inline with her character well because she's a slut but almost all these NTR are written that "nice" girls are broken by unavoidable rape and the size of their cock or the unbelievable fuck skills of the character. Which is the stupidest thing ever.

 

[Jcj]

Instead of talking about NTR and co.
Does anyone know when we can expect a new update?
Didn't find a date somewhere

No date yet. I was

Instead of talking about NTR and co.
Does anyone know when we can expect a new update?
Didn't find a date somewhere

There is none yet. Patreons will be the first to know, and as I think there are some that are active in this forum, it won't take much time until you do.

 

[Jcj]

1. Who she doesn't know at all and whom the uncle barely knows and doesn't trust.

2. I haven't played the game in quite awhile but I sort of remember her saying something about trust if you tell her to go home. Also she went to the Uncle apartment alone without any relatives with her. She goes out and does her landry in a strange town alone. She went to the job interview alone.

3. For me it isn't even about NTR the problem with NTR is almost all the writing leading upto it is shit and totally breaks the characters. If you for example went out with the nieces friend and she decided to go with someone that maybe NTR but would be inline with her character well because she's a slut but almost all these NTR are written that "nice" girls are broken by unavoidable rape and the size of their cock or the unbelievable fuck skills of the character. Which is the stupidest thing ever.

1) Exactly, that's why she has some reluctancies towards accepting the offer or not. And that's all I can say.

2) As far as I remember, if she makes it to your place alone, you lose points. But anyway, I was writing on my cellphone and wanted to sum it up. She is upset (I think a better word could be 'disappointed') because you leave there alone AND you had planned to take her home. I don't know, I put myself in that position and it would bother me somehow, and in the position of a teenager I wanted her to overreact a little. That's where the trust issue comes, as some girls start throwing shit that doesn't have nothing to do with the real reason they are mad at you: it comes through her mind and she says/thinks it at that time, but that doesn't imply that she means it.

3) I don't think we've written Christine in a way she is easily impressed by these kind of things, not to the point of 'surrendering' to them. But if there is a NTR route, we'll try to make it as realistic as we can, as we are trying to write the rest of the game.

 

[namexjelex]

new update..???

 

[Gomly1980]

new update..???

No, not yet.

 

[namexjelex]

oh.....

i think
i wanna be fan this game

 

[Walt Dee]

Google link to walkthrough not found

 

[Skylaroo]

What I mean about the uncle is, what's he doing, what is his aim, where is the story going. He doesn't seem to have any direction.

Surely he has more to his life than eventually getting into someones panties.

Unfortunately, the common problem with many porn games is that they often think about the sex first, and then forcefully try to fit the story/characters into it instead the other way around. Normally, you'd try to write a plot first, and then insert the necessary scenes. Because it's the other way around here, we end up with a main character who doesn't really have any purpose other than to trigger the (sex) scenes.

 

[paladin07]

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Nice

 

[Walt Dee]

If I developed a game, I'd add a single NTR scene after about 8 months of conventional porn (by WEG standards), so I could get a 80 page thread of people fighting about cucking and cheating and whatnot. Fuck yeah, free advertising. Then after 6 weeks or so, I'd be all like "you guys are right, I will get the game back to its roots" while stuffing my pants with patronbux.

Worked for Big Brother.

Thereby proving the point that add NTR to their games are, by definition, evil sons-of-bitches.

 

[torkenstiem]

Unfortunately, the common problem with many porn games is that they often think about the sex first, and then forcefully try to fit the story/characters into it instead the other way around. Normally, you'd try to write a plot first, and then insert the necessary scenes. Because it's the other way around here, we end up with a main character who doesn't really have any purpose other than to trigger the (sex) scenes.

Thats pretty much how Ive been seeing this mass flood of incest games lately. Father/Brother always horny, has "beautiful" mother, sister or daughter and wants to fuck them, bam bam bam...next.

 

[dogk22]

next update when?

 

[dogk22]

Walkthrough Babysitter 0.0.5