Soul_less327

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Oh boy.....you've really opened up a can of worms now.....The incoming clash between NTR supporters and Haters and then the subsequent arguing of what NTR actually is is gonna make the Alamo look like a boy scout parade....
LOL, I'm just hoping for a calm and informative discussion. Hopefully there will be no bloodshed on these fields of enlightenment.
 

Soul_less327

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It's cool that you're seeking to understand.
However, this is not the place to do so - This is a thread about a game, a game in which the NTR-path has been cancelled.
My bad, I guess. I thought it was fairly relevant to the game in question. Would there be a better place to try and start this discussion? Is there an NTR debate thread in a different section? Not being sarcastic, just asking.
 

numanumani

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My bad, I guess. I thought it was fairly relevant to the game in question. Would there be a better place to try and start this discussion? Is there an NTR debate thread in a different section? Not being sarcastic, just asking.
Not sure, but I would guess maybe General Discussions or possibly Off-Topic.

Edit: Pardon, quoted the wrong post at first.
 
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numanumani

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How do you use that Unren business? I keep hearing about it.
Other then the rollback, I see no other use for it.
This is an example of what the menu-options are:
Code:
  1) Extract RPA packages
  2) Decompile rpyc files
  3) Decompile rpyc files, overwriting existing rpy files
  4) Enable Console and Developer Menu
  5) Enable Quick Save and Quick Load
  6) Force enable skipping of unseen content
  7) Force enable rollback (scroll wheel)
I guess you either see a use for the options or you don't.
 

ktron

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If you don't identify exagerately with the mc it's as seeing a film, you see that scene in third person. At least it's what I do when those scenes happen, they aren't necessary but I don't understand the HATE for them, it's like some people think to be betrayed irl
Yeah, for people who can't understand NTR, look at it the other way around: people who like NTR usually find it weird how much you identify with the MC. It's a game. It's not ME getting cheated on, it's an imaginary computer dude. It'd be like watching a porno where some guy's wife bangs the pizza delivery guy, and getting completely infuriated that it's "NTR" because somehow you managed to thoroughly put yourself in the shoes of the husband. That is what I don't really get.
 

changeling

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Since this game doesn't seem to be a straight NTR game and gives you a choice on whether you want to see it or not, I have a question for all of the NTR lovers out there. Why do you like NTR? I'm not judging you, I just honestly don't understand this fetish. Why would you want to play as the character who doesn't get the girl? Do you just take yourself out of the role of MC and put yourself in the role of every man in the game or do you actually like it when the girls cheat on you as the MC? I'm actually curious. I don't mind if the love interests aren't virgins and I'm not one of the types that thinks that if a character sleeps with someone else, that they are off limits or anything. I'm just not a fan of NTR when it involves the MC's love interest getting stolen away or if the MC is meant to seem sexually week or insufficient in some way. I'm also not a fan of 'sharing' with another male character unless it is part of a one time threesome or something. If 'sharing' is defined as 'letting the love interest go out and fuck other people' then I'm not into it. And I despise the 'cuck' fetish. If the MC is watching the scene, he should be a part of the action in my opinion. Anyway I would actually like an answer or at least a discussion, if any NTR lovers want to chime in. Again not judging you, I just don't get it.

On a side note:

As someone who hates NTR, is the NTR actually completely avoidable or does it just happen 'off screen' and you aren't forced to watch it? Because to me that is just as bad and I'd rather not get too far into this game and be disappointed.
I have a preference for themes that involves corruption of naive women, so NTR and Netori games are, in general, a full plate, because the bad guys have the worst intentions and are smarter than the protagonist. It's good to see when the game author creates situations involving a woman and a bad guy, that results in a unexpected event (of corruption, of course). But it's very hard to find this situation on western visual novels.

I don't put myself in place of the MC, personally, most of the time I dislike the MC. Also, I don't like any of this kind of thing in my relationship. Like someone said here in a previous post, I have also a relationship in real life and I play these games just for entertainment. Real life is so different...
 

L3z1l3

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How do you use that Unren business? I keep hearing about it.
Other then the rollback, I see no other use for it.
You can extract rpa packages with it and then check out the images or videos with a simple image viewer or video player application on your computer.
 

rogosh

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I just dont take games seriously and want the females in the game to do the most depraved shit you can think of. Whether its ntr/swinging/gangbang/prostitution does not matter in the least to me. Role playing as the MC does not work for me, getting sluts fucked works great :)
 

Irgendwie Irgendwo

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We are definitely winding down. I guess the dev will call it quits when we are back from the ski resort. The update was a bit light on the erotic stuff, on my path I had optional scenes with Christine and Sonya, and optional HJs by Christine and Jess. However, I wonder if it's the cards that we can also get Christine's mom if we do an all-out choice for her from the pool on.

Sometimes Chris definitely isn't the brightest candle on the cake. I mean, writing your article in the culprit's office building on a PC that he could always surveil, seriously? :D

Also, drinking may not be the greatest idea at the moment, although there hasn't been "the big reveal" yet, meaning we as the player know more than Christine.
 
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Soul_less327

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Yeah, for people who can't understand NTR, look at it the other way around: people who like NTR usually find it weird how much you identify with the MC. It's a game. It's not ME getting cheated on, it's an imaginary computer dude. It'd be like watching a porno where some guy's wife bangs the pizza delivery guy, and getting completely infuriated that it's "NTR" because somehow you managed to thoroughly put yourself in the shoes of the husband. That is what I don't really get.
I think it has to do with the point of view. In a porno, you are simply an observer so it wouldn't make sense to identify as any of the people in it. In a game though, you are actually playing as the MC, it's not that hard to identify as that character. Obviously you are right, the player is not actually getting ntr'd irl but some people role play more than others.
 

ThatGuyWithaAfro

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The only reason I did a ntr path this game with silva/rob is cause I figured we would be able to get neice back from bad guys... And I think it's hot to not be the one to pop her cherry... But then they turn her into a complete retard on those paths... Like nvm then... Waste of a path imo.
 

rem3403

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It's not that it bothers me, I'm just not into it. And as you said, there are lots of games on this site that don't have NTR, so I have lots of options. I just tend to role play in these games like I would in any other type of game like Skyrim or the Witcher. So if I don't like something irl like ntr or voyeurism, I don't tend to like it in the games I play either. (Yes I know Skyrim and the Witcher are terrible examples since I don't normally fight monsters and dragons irl, but they are the only games that jumped into my head). As for the relationship or 'romantic encounter' part of your post, I've never really had the desire to marry and I haven't been in a long term committed relationship in a while. I still hook up with a few 'regulars' to stay sane, but we all kind of have an understanding that nothing is exclusive. I'm just not wired to be monogamous and even though I know that they are all with other people when they are not with me, I don't really have any desire to watch it happening.
I get the Role playing part of it, i'm into that also. As for the monogamous part of you post...trust me I get it...I was single for a long time before I got married, and very non committed....coming to this kind of place helps me not go back to those same u
I have a preference for themes that involves corruption of naive women, so NTR and Netori games are, in general, a full plate, because the bad guys have the worst intentions and are smarter than the protagonist. It's good to see when the game author creates situations involving a woman and a bad guy, that results in a unexpected event (of corruption, of course). But it's very hard to find this situation on western visual novels.

I don't put myself in place of the MC, personally, most of the time I dislike the MC. Also, I don't like any of this kind of thing in my relationship. Like someone said here in a previous post, I have also a relationship in real life and I play these games just for entertainment. Real life is so different...
I have found in most of these games, the MC is way more of a cheating scumbag than any of the so called "bad guys" in the game...I don't associate myself the the MC's at all.
 

rem3403

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I get the Role playing part of it, i'm into that also. As for the monogamous part of you post...trust me I get it...I was single for a long time before I got married, and very non committed....coming to this kind of place helps me not go back to those same u

I have found in most of these games, the MC is way more of a cheating scumbag than any of the so called "bad guys" in the game...I don't associate myself the the MC's at all.
and might I add...how is it that people go nuts over NTR being in a game but have no problem in being a MC that fucks his mom and sisters all the time...WTF?
 
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