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Yeah, it's convention with these games that finished = 1.0, but it's not a rule or anything.
Actually its the standard for the game industry and has been for a long long time. 1.0 in final/finished game. This is why so many people got mad when a "patreon" games first release comes out and its label 1.0 instead of 0.1. Don't even get me started on the mislabeling of a game as a beta when there not. Devs on this site don't know shit about game design.
 

MysteryCrabs

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Actually its the standard for the game industry and has been for a long long time. 1.0 in final/finished game.
Version numbers are context specific. Development companies have completely different standards for version ids based on their own preferred logic. The important part about versioning is that they are A) unique, and B) monotonically increasing.

Don't even get me started on the mislabeling of a game as a beta when there not
Alpha/beta designations are also mostly arbitrary, and predominantly tied to the style of development. An "alpha period" for a box title would often refer to the period leading to an alpha (feature complete) build, where beta period would be leading to "content complete". For a live title, the terms are more flexible (because the title goes through many cycles of feature and content completeness). As long as the term is consistent within a context, it is admissible. That's why the terms are "alpha and beta" and not "feature complete/content complete" because they are meant to be arbitrary and non-specific much like version ids.

Devs on this site don't know shit about game design.
Version ids have nothing to do with game design. A cheesecake recipe can have a version id
 

ImmortalNight

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In this game the NTR is the WORST because Christine is so fucking naive and adorable, and the creeps fuck her are fucking assholes so yeah, I understand u fella.. haha
I got the route with Silver who I hated. I didn't even know what NTR was yet. I kept hoping I could get her back, but no matter what she stabs you in the back at the nightclub. Reminded me of a movie I saw which I guess was also NTR.
 
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goobdoob

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Actually its the standard for the game industry and has been for a long long time. 1.0 in final/finished game. This is why so many people got mad when a "patreon" games first release comes out and its label 1.0 instead of 0.1. Don't even get me started on the mislabeling of a game as a beta when there not. Devs on this site don't know shit about game design.
"standard"? o_O

Please point me to the website defining this standard.

Don't say "standard". It means a specific thing, and what you're saying it is isn't what it is.


And 1.0 isn't necessarily a final/finished game. 1.0 can be the first completed release. Often, in software, you have versions < 1.0 until the first completed release, then 1.0, then possibly numbers > 1.0. Or 1.0 could be the first release, with subsequent releases being > 1.0. The only people who get mad at this are people who are ignorant about versioning.
 

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I got the route with Silver who I hated. I didn't even know what NTR was yet. I kept hoping I could get her back, but no matter what she stabs you in the back at the nightclub. Reminded me of a movie I saw which I guess was also NTR.
Yay, if u dont warn her about Silver, she will trust him over u and Jess, for me, the dev made a real bad way for the NTR in the game, because if Christine is in love with the MC she will be more bold and intelligent for stop us in sexual way, but if u let her with the two assholes, she will be TOO MUCH naive and stupid. For me this is a real mistake because if ure naive, ure naive for everyone, not for the context, and yeah, when she bretrayed u and Jess in the nightclub is a twist plot.. wtf? She trusts a fucking old man that she met a few weeks over her uncle and her best friend? haha no way dude, the real life is not that, at least not mine or people I met.

And for me this is my top 1 game by far, because the sex scenes is TOO damn hot but the dev has things to learn in the way that he makes the background of the characters and their builds through the story.
 

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Yay, if u dont warn her about Silver, she will trust him over u and Jess, for me, the dev made a real bad way for the NTR in the game, because if Christine is in love with the MC she will be more bold and intelligent for stop us in sexual way, but if u let her with the two assholes, she will be TOO MUCH naive and stupid. For me this is a real mistake because if ure naive, ure naive for everyone, not for the context, and yeah, when she bretrayed u and Jess in the nightclub is a twist plot.. wtf? She trusts a fucking old man that she met a few weeks over her uncle and her best friend? haha no way dude, the real life is not that, at least not mine or people I met.

And for me this is my top 1 game by far, because the sex scenes is TOO damn hot but the dev has things to learn in the way that he makes the background of the characters and their builds through the story.
I've only played a few so far, but my favorite was Dual Family. Sadly I think it will never be finished.

I really liked the detailed backstory of Jess and Christine. They felt much more real, but I agree the decisions Christine makes are not realistic.
 
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Actually its the standard for the game industry and has been for a long long time. 1.0 in final/finished game. This is why so many people got mad when a "patreon" games first release comes out and its label 1.0 instead of 0.1. Don't even get me started on the mislabeling of a game as a beta when there not. Devs on this site don't know shit about game design.
Of course they don't know shit about game design, most of them do it as a hobby. It's their first time.

This is just something they do for a bit of fun.

I can tell you at least 3 devs that find it hilarious when people get their panties bunched up over version numbers.
 

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I really liked the detailed backstory of Jess and Christine. They felt much more real, but I agree the decisions Christine makes are not realistic.
Really? Because I see people making stupid decisions all the time. Like being strong and smart with one person, but a complete idiot with another.

Of course, the writer bailing out and having to be replaced certainly didn't help.
 

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Is there a way to get the girls to both agree to the shower after being caught in the rain? I've been following Open path, being honest, and trying to pick "polyarmorous-friendly" choices but I just can't seem to make it happen.
 
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Honestly, Christine on the NTR routes is just not my cup of tea but being the routes that actually make Jessica and the MC a couple makes it worth it in the end IMO
 
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Is there a possobility for a real sonya ending at the end,

not just that she is this kind of side thing to christine?
 

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Is there a way to get the girls to both agree to the shower after being caught in the rain? I've been following Open path, being honest, and trying to pick "polyarmorous-friendly" choices but I just can't seem to make it happen.
Yeah, I approached the game from the same perspective. It seemed polyamory was a natural for what was developing. You can get such an ending in the epilogue, though. I liked that.
 

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*sees incest remover* *wonders if anyone doesn't actually like the incest kink* (as different from actual incest...).

edit: why does the intro make me think that this story takes place in a galaxy far far away?
 

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Really? Because I see people making stupid decisions all the time. Like being strong and smart with one person, but a complete idiot with another.

Of course, the writer bailing out and having to be replaced certainly didn't help.
But in which universe a person betrays their family and best friend for a random guy that she knows 2 weeks ago? If u meet someone like this, I feel bad for u dude, because is the real stupid people be in this way.. tbh, this game is SO good, but has too many flaws, and one of the biggest is just this, the different way that t4bbo made the personality of Christine depends on with who man she fucks or stay at the end.

The NTR is also a big problem here because she will be soooooooooo naive and submissive, meanwhile if u go for love path she will be sooooooo bold and smart with the MC and doesnt let him be rude with her (not same as Robert or Silver in their paths where they literally fuck her when she didnt expect that)

And repeat, this is my fav game so far, buuuut, I really feel bad because in the backkground the game has a few flaws.
 
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Avaron1974

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*sees incest remover* *wonders if anyone doesn't actually like the incest kink* (as different from actual incest...).
There are a few people on here that don't like incest.

I can play games that have it but it isn't one of my kinks. I won't install a patch to add incest unless it completely messes up the story.
 
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Fuck this game! I did everything I could see possible and she still ended up fucking other people. If I gotta try that hard and need a walkthrough for her not to get fucked, this is only an NTR in my book
 

MysteryCrabs

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Fuck this game! I did everything I could see possible and she still ended up fucking other people. If I gotta try that hard and need a walkthrough for her not to get fucked, this is only an NTR in my book
It's not hard. Take a shower before visiting Christine's room on day 8 (this is probably the "oddest" one, but it's key), warn her about Silver if she takes that job, and don't tell her she can sleep with other people if she is pissed at MC on the yacht. That's basically all you have to remember. If you want the happy ending with her, keep her friend points higher than horny points
 
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