VN Ren'Py Babysitting Cream: BetaMix Edition [v0.3.5] [Novilon]

[ForbiddenFan12]

Hanging out in the mall used to be a big thing for teenagers and college kids, especially on weekends. (Maybe it still is; I haven't been to one in quite a while myself, because where I live now, the nearest one is in the next county over and you more-or-less have to take the toll road to get there in any reasonable amount of time.) But when the mall basically only has six places you can visit, and three of them are clothing stores... yeah, not exactly worthy of an all-day trip.

Yeah, I used to love going to the mall a good few years ago, but after moving states for school and moving back? The mall I used to go to, is... lack luster. Sure the shops are fun and all, but since the Funky Virus hit, the arcade shut down, and being near a native american reservation... Conditions of said mall are, a bit lack luster, especially with the claw machines, and other various prize winning ones about. Everything else is mostly fine. But still, it's fun, but missing a lot. So Perhaps when the mall overhaul might happen, I do have a few ideas.

- Food Court/ Restaurants like mentioned before
- Gaming Store
- Entertainment areas (Mall I go to still, installed an Escape Room place)
- Rotation of Movies (Not neccessary, but it could be a way to encourage replay value of having a different movie list than the standard 3, or even adding more to it)
- Random RWC events like pop-up stores in the middle of the floor/section of the mall (Again, going off of the mall I frequent, and memories of other malls. Sometimes, there's a random pop-up shop between the stalls, and rest areas. Mostly toys, puzzles, and random calendars.)

And that's all, just a few sections to flesh out said mall/"city" section of the game. Speaking of which... for going into the "City" you barely see any of it beyond the park, mall, fountain square, and movie theatre normally... right?

 

[Novilon]

So Perhaps when the mall overhaul might happen, I do have a few ideas.

- Food Court/ Restaurants like mentioned before
- Gaming Store
- Entertainment areas (Mall I go to still, installed an Escape Room place)
- Rotation of Movies (Not neccessary, but it could be a way to encourage replay value of having a different movie list than the standard 3, or even adding more to it)
- Random RWC events like pop-up stores in the middle of the floor/section of the mall (Again, going off of the mall I frequent, and memories of other malls. Sometimes, there's a random pop-up shop between the stalls, and rest areas. Mostly toys, puzzles, and random calendars.)

All of the above are reasonable ideas, though I'm not sure how many of them I'll actually want to use... There are only 7 "days" in the game in which to accomplish your goals, after all, so I'd need to find the right balance between having enough alternative activities downtown to keep it from feeling like a daily grind of same-old-same-old, but not so many that the player gets overwhelmed trying to keep track of which paths and events lead to actual achievements (or block them), and which ones are just false trails that lead nowhere.

Speaking of which... for going into the "City" you barely see any of it beyond the park, mall, fountain square, and movie theatre normally... right?

Yeah, "the City" is pretty much limited to those four places -- and the Mochi-Mochi porn store once you get the map from Amy. Realistically, the City should have a couple more places to go, as well... but, again, balancing act.

 

[Saru77]

So apparently when you do this route:

Cream's Room > Call Cream >Sure, lets play the mommy & daddy game > Let Cream discover how "happy" you currently are > It just means I want to do the special hug with you for real

Regardless of what point you are at in the game, It treats it like you're taking Cream's virginity for the first time and knocks you out for the rest of the day no mater how many times you do it. Understandably, if you're already having sex with Cream, it's just better to take the route of taking off her panties and skipping to the best part, but it's still incredibly weird to have the former path as an option after already having sex, especially if you're not expecting it, it just robs you of the rest of the day

 

[Novilon]

So apparently when you do this route:

Cream's Room > Call Cream >Sure, lets play the mommy & daddy game > Let Cream discover how "happy" you currently are > It just means I want to do the special hug with you for real

Regardless of what point you are at in the game, It treats it like you're taking Cream's virginity for the first time and knocks you out for the rest of the day no mater how many times you do it.

Which probably means there's no check implemented for whether or not you've already had sex with her, and/or no alternate path written for that scene as yet. Cream's Bedroom is one of the many areas that still needs a proper rewrite; I just haven't gotten to that one yet. I'll be sure to keep that in mind when I do tackle it, though!

 

[Chenzhou]

Which probably means there's no check implemented for whether or not you've already had sex with her, and/or no alternate path written for that scene as yet. Cream's Bedroom is one of the many areas that still needs a proper rewrite; I just haven't gotten to that one yet. I'll be sure to keep that in mind when I do tackle it, though!

Well, it did have a tiny bit of a re-write between AX's and FB's versions...I don't remember being able to poke around in the bedroom when she's not in there to see the naughty cartoon drawings in AX's version.

 

[Saru77]

Is Cream peeking on you in the shower still in the game, because i don't think I've managed to trigger that once

 

[Bennymac]

So how many pictures are there

 

[Kruggov]

Is Cream peeking on you in the shower still in the game, because i don't think I've managed to trigger that once

It is still there.

 

[FoxyTails]

Is Cream peeking on you in the shower still in the game, because i don't think I've managed to trigger that once

As mentioned - it's still there.
IIRC you need to have at least managed to of 'fondled' her to trigger the spying event

So how many pictures are there

Well - looking at the game/images folder there are a total of 342 images used
A breakdown of these seem to be -
background/menu/screens items:155
Amy: 1
Cream:58
Events:71
Hersey:2
Knuckles:1
Marine:14
Nina:18
Rouge:1
Sally:2
Sonic:19
Tails:5
Vanilla:2

Note that some pictures have a random chance of showing - for example I have never managed to see this but there's a ~30% chance of finding it:

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[CarlCarlson99]

idk if you saw my earlier comment, but i just wanted to request again if there could be more mentions of potential pregnancy in the game.
Again, not requesting actual pregnancy, just some more dialogue bringing it up like the one when you do the deed with cream in her room

 

[Bennymac]

Any chance for animated scene

 

[Chenzhou]

Any chance for animated scene

You gotta be a lot more specific...otherwise we can have Sanic drinking liquor and touching a police officer...

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[DoorFive]

If I may make a suggestion?

Take it easy.

Cheers.

 

[Saru77]

As mentioned - it's still there.
IIRC you need to have at least managed to of 'fondled' her to trigger the spying event

I'm just unlucky then

 

[Novilon]

idk if you saw my earlier comment, but i just wanted to request again if there could be more mentions of potential pregnancy in the game.
Again, not requesting actual pregnancy, just some more dialogue bringing it up like the one when you do the deed with cream in her room

As has been noted numerous times before, pregnancy doesn't really work in this game since it only spans 7 days. So it's not likely that the subject would actually come up very often.

Any chance for animated scene

Not unless someone wants to actually go to the trouble of drawing some, and provide me with some sample Ren'Py code showing how to actually make it work. ( Ren'Py, for some incomprehensible reason, doesn't directly support animated GIF images, so it's not trivial to make it work, apparently.)

Is Cream peeking on you in the shower still in the game, because i don't think I've managed to trigger that once

"Watch Cartoons" with Cream in the Living Room. When she falls asleep, "Pull up her dress to get a better view", then "Go to the bathroom and finish yourself off there."

This should always trigger a scene in which Cream sneaks up to peek in on you while you're showering / masturbating. Exactly what will happen depends on what, if anything, you've already succeeded in doing with her (the "fondled Cream", "got handjob from Cream", "got blowjob from Cream", and "went down on Cream" control how the scene proceeds once she peeks in on you -- and holy hell, is that scene a big pile of spaghetti code!), but you should always, at minimum, get her peeking in on you.

Are you saying that's not happening at all? How, exactly, are you trying to trigger the scene?

Note that some pictures have a random chance of showing - for example I have never managed to see this but there's a ~30% chance of finding it:

Finding the "naughty photos" should be a 20% chance in the current code. It's possible that needs some adjustment; Cream's Room is one of the modules I haven't really done anything with yet.

 

[CarlCarlson99]

Are you saying that's not happening at all? How, exactly, are you trying to trigger the scene?

I think he means getting cream to peek on you while using the shower regularly

 

[Novilon]

I think he means getting cream to peek on you while using the shower regularly

Ah. Okay, for that to happen, you have to get your Exposure score above 9 first. However, she won't join you in the shower unless either one of three conditions is met: your RWC is 450 or higher; you have already succeeded in convincing her to get naked; or you have gotten at least one of the "fondled", "went down on", or "got blowjob from" achievements.

 

[The Naizuri Guy]

"Watch Cartoons" with Cream in the Living Room. When she falls asleep, "Pull up her dress to get a better view", then "Go to the bathroom and finish yourself off there."

This should always trigger a scene in which Cream sneaks up to peek in on you while you're showering / masturbating. Exactly what will happen depends on what, if anything, you've already succeeded in doing with her (the "fondled Cream", "got handjob from Cream", "got blowjob from Cream", and "went down on Cream" control how the scene proceeds once she peeks in on you -- and holy hell, is that scene a big pile of spaghetti code!), but you should always, at minimum, get her peeking in on you.

Are you saying that's not happening at all? How, exactly, are you trying to trigger the scene?

Do you mean there's three stages to how that goes? Huh, there always seems to be content in this game that I have yet to find.

And I think they mean the scene where you use the shower like normal to restore energy, there's a chance that Cream peaks in on Sonic. You can choose to ignore her, 'give her a show', or invite her in. That's the one they were asking about.

 

[seronis]

Not unless someone wants to actually go to the trouble of drawing some, and provide me with some sample Ren'Py code showing how to actually make it work. ( Ren'Py, for some incomprehensible reason, doesn't directly support animated GIF images, so it's not trivial to make it work, apparently.)

If you have a series of image files then

image cream_shower:
   "images/cream_shower_1.webp" with dissolve
   pause 0.25
   "images/cream_shower_2.webp" with dissolve
   pause 0.25
   "images/cream_shower_3.webp" with dissolve
   pause 0.25
   "images/cream_shower_4.webp" with dissolve
   pause 0.25
   "images/cream_shower_5.webp" with dissolve
   pause 0.25
   repeat

then just a show cream_shower will put her animated sprite on screen with it using the listed transition to shift between the frames

you can also use a supported movie format like webm. but you're correct gif isnt supported

 

[Novilon]

If you have a series of image files then
...
then just a show cream_shower will put her animated sprite on screen with it using the listed transition to shift between the frames

"with dissolve" -- won't that take 1 second to crossfade from one frame to the next?

you can also use a supported movie format like webm. but you're correct gif isnt supported

The trouble with movie formats is that, as far as I know, none of them really support transparency, so you can't overlay them on top of the backgrounds.

Given that animated GIFs are one of the most widely-used formats for that kind of thing, it seems like a rather glaring oversight that Renpy doesn't support it, really.

Either way, actually having the "series of image files" is still the sticking point, I suppose. Animation is a lot of work; I don't know if any of the current artists would be willing to go to quite that much effort. I'll keep that code snippet handy in case it ever comes up, though!