Kieruon

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Sorry for the odd question, but are there any plans for consequences if you use the ice cream drug to rape Cream?

In the game currently, if you use the ice cream drug on her before you get her panties off, there aren't any repercussions and the "take off your panties" option even becomes available. Is it possible for future versions to have Cream become afraid or distrustful if you try this?
 

FuzzyBunny23

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Sorry for the odd question, but are there any plans for consequences if you use the ice cream drug to rape Cream?

In the game currently, if you use the ice cream drug on her before you get her panties off, there aren't any repercussions and the "take off your panties" option even becomes available. Is it possible for future versions to have Cream become afraid or distrustful if you try this?
Good question. Previously the game had a forceful, sometimes rapey vibe, this being one which always struck me as off. No matter where you were in the game, ice cream would get you into sex with no repercussions (She says she wanted it - I mean damn), but exposing yourself too early could end the game.

Not editing the kitchen yet, but there will be changes to that route.
 

Horsie

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I'm not sure if you're aware that Aval0nX just dumped a few drawings in his IB account, some of them would be useful in the game. Will you use them? Did you use any other image that wasn't originally on the "deal with it" version of the original? and if any of those questions are yes, did you ask permission to Aval0nX? I still don't know what is the general standing of him about this mod/remake. I tried before to ask him, but he never answered my message.
 

FuzzyBunny23

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I'm not sure if you're aware that Aval0nX just dumped a few drawings in his IB account, some of them would be useful in the game. Will you use them? Did you use any other image that wasn't originally on the "deal with it" version of the original? and if any of those questions are yes, did you ask permission to Aval0nX? I still don't know what is the general standing of him about this mod/remake. I tried before to ask him, but he never answered my message.
I have seen some new imagery and already incorporated at least one in the mod. I reached out once and never received a reply as well.
 
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Horsie

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I have seen some new imagery and already incorporated at least one in the mod. I reached out once and never received a reply as well.
So the official Aval0nX stance about this mod is "lalalalala I can't hear you lalalalala".
Disappointing.
 
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So the official Aval0nX stance about this mod is "lalalalala I can't hear you lalalalala".
Disappointing.
Don't get how someone can 'steal' characters an assets from Sega to make their game, then get all upset when someone else modifies a game that they haven't updated in years. "It's my game!" They cry, while they draw underage furry porn of characters from...someone else game.

They are just butthurt the game they all but abandoned is not only still popular, but in better hands. Missed opportunity AND they are getting shown up by a better dev. Must hurt, but they should just move on.
 

FuzzyBunny23

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Just to state my opinion clearly:
I think I read somewhere that Aval0nX is not happy with the ports, but I've never heard anything specific straight from him so I don't know.
I believe Aval0nX is the artist while others are doing the development, it was a team effort
I'm going on the premise that it's a knock-off of Sonic characters to begin with and he's still credited with original work, and it's clearly stated as a modification so we're good.
 
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I just hope he sees it that way...It's not like he can do anything legally for obvious reasons, but it would still break my heart to see the creator of such a beloved game turn out to be such an ass. But even still I've never heard anything either. He could actually not care and this could all be hearsay.
 

FuzzyBunny23

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Hey FuzzyBunny23, I don't know if you've already said this before, but do you plan on developing this game beyond where AvalonX left off?
Yes, We're adding scenes, expanding pretty much everything that was already there, and at least adding a new ending for the previously unfinished one involving Vanilla/Mochi shop/driving to see her.
 

FuzzyBunny23

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Status report:
All known bugs are fixed, nothing major, mostly typos causing errors, oops, my bad.
The backyard swimming pool update is ~75% done. I plan on pushing another update this weekend with all of this. It should work fine with any 0.3.0 saved games, but the pool rewrite is good to hit fresh since it levels the dialog per experiences, also a new route for "gettin' busy" in the swim suite on flow.
 
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Horsie

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Just to state my opinion clearly:
I think I read somewhere that Aval0nX is not happy with the ports, but I've never heard anything specific straight from him so I don't know.
I believe Aval0nX is the artist while others are doing the development, it was a team effort
I'm going on the premise that it's a knock-off of Sonic characters to begin with and he's still credited with original work, and it's clearly stated as a modification so we're good.
I'm sure he's just angry because he must think he is the one that has to keep working on the game, and don't want other people to touch his creation.
I hope that someday he just accepts that by himself his game will never go anywhere and starts actively contributing to this one.

I just hope he sees it that way...It's not like he can do anything legally for obvious reasons, but it would still break my heart to see the creator of such a beloved game turn out to be such an ass. But even still I've never heard anything either. He could actually not care and this could all be hearsay.
He obviously cares. If he didn't really cared, it would have answered the several people that asked about this stating so.
 

FuzzyBunny23

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Has anyone got a guide for pathways/playthrought to see all the content?
If you mean for my mod, there isn't one, and the content has more than tripled due to the dynamic text setup. Each scene can have several dialogs/actions based on your current status/experiences with Cream. (Revisit scenes!) Previously it was mostly either/or with one dialog for fail, one for succeed.

Is there something in particular you are hoping to find?
 

slormo

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If you mean for my mod, there isn't one, and the content has more than tripled due to the dynamic text setup. Each scene can have several dialogs/actions based on your current status/experiences with Cream. (Revisit scenes!) Previously it was mostly either/or with one dialog for fail, one for succeed.

Is there something in particular you are hoping to find?
I mainly just want a guide for the pathways you can take to see as much of the achievements as possible.

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FuzzyBunny23

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slormo - and anyone else looking for locations
Hope this helps a little, in general you need to have achieved lower level stuff before you can succeed at more "advanced" stuff
fondle > BJ/HJ/CL > get naked > sex​
I've been eliminating a lot of the original touch/exposure = whatever type triggers and replacing them with event triggers​

Kiss, Fondle (specifically finger penetration, not groping), either flavor of oral sex, handjob are all basic stuff achievable in any house location - LOTS of new routes to achieve these, and many scenes allow you to keep progressing just by repeating them.

  • Footjob - living room, play board game HBG truth or dare Cream Dares Sonic to be her man servant
  • Deepthroat - living room watch cartoons peek finish off in bathroom requires already have blowjob and is a one time scene
  • Vibrator - living room watch cartoons ignore panties
  • vaginal sex - primarily going to happen in living room, Cream's room, and Vanilla's room first time
  • specific sex scenes should be easy to get from the descriptions location, MUST have had sex already to do it outside the house locations. NOTE - Movie is too crowded on weekends for anything
  • beach sex scenes are only available if you have Cream's bathing suit top in your inventory so she will suggest going to the nude beach
  • Swing is in the park
  • Anal play can be found in living room, Backyard, Cream's room, and Vanilla's room
  • Anal sex - must do anal play first to not end in pain, primarily going to happen in living room, Cream's room, and Vanilla's room
  • Sex w/ Amy at her place is in the park > walk path > go right, random chance (this will be tweaked before long, and expanded, part of the new ending)
  • Oral at fountain is a random event downtown at the fountain
  • the two existing threesomes are when you invite the ladies over by phone and have sex when you have already had sex with Cream. Right now there's not much to them, barely a mention, but that will be updated, no eta on that.
 

fivesteaks

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Hope this helps a little
Following on to this, I've been experimenting with some ways to add a hint system to the journal. The rough idea is to make it available after you've played through once (kind of a mini "New Game+" thing) and then you can click on any uncompleted achievements in the journal for tips on how to find those scenes.

No ETA as I'm rather busy with IRL stuff for the foreseeable future, but when I have a prototype working I'll send it to FB23 for possible inclusion in a future release, if he thinks it's useful.
 
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FuzzyBunny23

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fivesteaks - Sounds interesting, but might be too challenging with all the dynamic level triggers and multiple entry points on some stuff. Worth looking into though.
 

fivesteaks

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might be too challenging with all the dynamic level triggers and multiple entry points on some stuff
Yeah it's basically just me doing some trial and error to see if there's a way to leverage our work revamping the score/stat/event system into something that makes hints/in-game walkthrough simple-ish to add. I've got some semi-working code, just working out some of the kinks as I have time. (y)
 
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