VN Ren'Py Completed Bare Witness [Ch. 5] [AlterWorlds]

[Mpkstroff]

The Heidi/Athena situation was a turn off for me, sad really, they seem interesting characters, so friendzoned for now.
Happy/relieved to see I'm not the only one feeling off in this; while playing kinda feel weird for the game telling me I should like gay scenes
Good intro though! Waiting for more.

 

[MrFriendly]

The Heidi/Athena situation was a turn off for me, sad really, they seem interesting characters, so friendzoned for now.
Happy/relieved to see I'm not the only one feeling off in this; while playing kinda feel weird for the game telling me I should like gay scenes
Good intro though! Waiting for more.

Yeah, I guess we’re all supposed to be turned on by lesbian sex? I don’t have an issue with it but at the same time I played it as “I just met these two and it’s my first night in their house, what is the smart (non-porn) reaction?”
See it a lot in these games and I’m just tired of the “women are all bisexual” thing. If it was two men and the MC was a woman I doubt there would be a scene at all. Just a weirdly common element of these games.

 

[Ragnar]

Well, they're in College, people try new things you know. The only thing that bothers me a bit is how open they're about it with the MC, also it get worse when we learn about Heidi's past.
Anyway, It's a good set up to start a threesome with them, the bar lady is more aggressive than the girls and I don't hear complains about her.

 

[MrFriendly]

Well, they're in College, people try new things you know. The only thing that bothers me a bit is how open they're about it with the MC, also it get worse when we learn about Heidi's past.
Anyway, It's a good set up to start a threesome with them, the bar lady is more aggressive than the girls and I don't hear complains about her.

It becomes even more weird and uncomfortable when you learn Heidi’s history of having a creeper. Did that turn her on?
And I know people “explore” in college (that’s a cliche and not everyone does) but it’s the timing that bothers me. It’s the first night this guy has been there and yeah they think he’s cute (of course because he’s a porn game MC) but at least wait a night or two before trying to entice him into watching the two of you fuck.
It’s not aggressive per se, rather have Heidi invite him to watch and say that he can’t let Athena know, that would be more straightforward. Just felt off considering everything.

 

[Akoolomonch]

Don’t know if I missed it or not but I couldn’t see anyone saying how much content this has, so I’m just going to ask here. How much content does this have? Is it like other early in development games with not a lot, or is there a lot? Either way I’m going to watch this

 

[Ragnar]

It becomes even more weird and uncomfortable when you learn Heidi’s history of having a creeper. Did that turn her on?
And I know people “explore” in college (that’s a cliche and not everyone does) but it’s the timing that bothers me. It’s the first night this guy has been there and yeah they think he’s cute (of course because he’s a porn game MC) but at least wait a night or two before trying to entice him into watching the two of you fuck.
It’s not aggressive per se, rather have Heidi invite him to watch and say that he can’t let Athena know, that would be more straightforward. Just felt off considering everything.

Sure not everyone tries new things and not everyone is as carefree as Heidi but there are people like that.
In contrast the rest of the young girls are more conservative or reserved. So you can always say no and move to the next one.
Personally I like the house setting and the uber girl, don't remember her name.

 

[Rinbael]

Personally I think Leap of Faith handled the wholelesbian couple also want a man thing a bit better since you got to spend more time with them one on one before being involved in thethrouple.

I think a lot of my dislike of the roommate set up is that I am completely fed up with the whole "all women are bisexual" trope like MrFriendly said.

Since I have been on this site playing the games on here for a while (probably too long) that trope has got to the same level as incest and harems where I'm just completely uninterested and bored of that content but it doesn't really matter I suppose, there are plenty of other characters in the game that are more interesting. I do really love goth girls so I am disappointed that she is tied to a throuple that I have no interest in.

 

[Slockie]

Yo, what's up with all these 5 star reviews from people with 0 to 10 posts? Thats kinda sus

What are you trying to insinuate here. I don’t control who does or doesn’t leave a review

 

[eddie987]

Yeah, I guess we’re all supposed to be turned on by lesbian sex? I don’t have an issue with it but at the same time I played it as “I just met these two and it’s my first night in their house, what is the smart (non-porn) reaction?”
See it a lot in these games and I’m just tired of the “women are all bisexual” thing. If it was two men and the MC was a woman I doubt there would be a scene at all. Just a weirdly common element of these games.

At this point every woman in evey game being bisexual is more cliche than the dead father combined with the lonely "landlady", the bitchy older "roommate" and the innocent younger one. Plus it's the laziest way to write a threesome and in cases of an already established relationship like we have here, it makes me feel like the MC is the third wheel or just a living dildo for the lesbian couple to play with...

Now, what I found really weird about this game, is that you actually get punished if you like Heidi, but you don't want to go full on perv from day one. The only way to get "he_path = True" which I assume means that you open up Heidi's path, is by peeking on them while they fuck. Plus if you don't perv on them you miss 2 love points for her. I don't know how strict the point system is going to be, but that's 2 out of the 7 points you can get for her in one playthough and that's only if you want both her and Athena, otherwise it's 2 out of 6.
*There's a different variable for a Heidi+Athena path, so they don't seem to be a packaged deal, which makes the whole thing even weirder.

I don't know how to feel about this game so far. It has nice visuals, and the witness protection story (or whatever this is) is different that most of the VNs you see here, but then they go full cliche with the lesbian (but not really) couple and the horny cougar who fucks around. Normally I'd like both Heidi (preferably without the 15 year old high schooler type of "humor" with the constant gay jokes...) and Athena (she's closer to my personal tastes than any other woman in this game), but I'm not interested in playing the third wheel and keep reading how gay I am because I don't find lesbian sex hot, so that's already two possible LIs less for me. There's still Mora who seems nice (unless you don't accept her offer for a coffee...) and maybe Zenda and Nicole, if she doesn't end up being another horny MILF stereotype, so I'll probably keep an eye on this, in the hope that the game will stop telling what I'm supposed to like and how gay I am if I don't like it...

 

[Slockie]

Don’t know if I missed it or not but I couldn’t see anyone saying how much content this has, so I’m just going to ask here. How much content does this have? Is it like other early in development games with not a lot, or is there a lot? Either way I’m going to watch this

I’d say probably 30-45 minutes

 

[Slockie]

At this point every woman in evey game being bisexual is more cliche than the dead father combined with the lonely "landlady", the bitchy older "roommate" and the innocent younger one. Plus it's the laziest way to write a threesome and in cases of an already established relationship like we have here, it makes me feel like the MC is the third wheel or just a living dildo for the lesbian couple to play with...

Now, what I found really weird about this game, is that you actually get punished if you like Heidi, but you don't want to go full on perv from day one. The only way to get "he_path = True" which I assume means that you open up Heidi's path, is by peeking on them while they fuck. Plus if you don't perv on them you miss 2 love points for her. I don't know how strict the point system is going to be, but that's 2 out of the 7 points you can get for her in one playthough and that's only if you want both her and Athena, otherwise it's 2 out of 6.
*There's a different variable for a Heidi-Athena path, so they don't seem to be a packaged deal, which makes the whole thing even weirder.

I don't know how to feel about this game so far. It has nice visuals, and the witness protection story (or whatever this is) is different that most of the VNs you see here, but then they go full cliche with the lesbian (but not really) couple and the horny cougar who fucks around. Normally I'd like both Heidi (without the 15 year old high schooler type of "humor" with the constant gay jokes...) and Athena (she's closer to my personal tastes than any other woman in this game), but I'm not interested in playing the third wheel and keep reading how gay I am because I don't find lesbian sex hot, so that's already two possible LIs less for me. There's still Mora who seems nice (unless you don't accept her offer for a coffee...) and maybe Zenda and Nicole, if she doesn't end up being another horny MILF stereotype, so I'll probably keep an eye on this, in the hope that the game will stop telling what I'm supposed to like and how gay I am if I don't like it...

Okay, first off, if you don’t like the lesbian stuff then don’t go on there path. Secondly, you may or may not be able to split them up in the future and only have one of them. Thirdly there will be other ways to get onto there paths, don’t look into the code that much, and lastly the quote Heidi said about MC being gay was just a joke, don’t take it personally.

 

[eddie987]

Okay, first off, if you don’t like the lesbian stuff then don’t go on there path. Secondly, you may or may not be able to split them up in the future and only have one of them. Thirdly there will be other ways to get onto there paths, don’t look into the code that much, and lastly the quote Heidi said about MC being gay was just a joke, don’t take it personally.

That's why I said the game starts off with two less possible love interests for me, just because I don't agree with the "girl on girl=hot" porn logic. I'm not sure why you get so defensive about it. Now, about the code, I had to look into it because the game already branches out way too much and again, I clearly said that I don't know how strict the point system is going to be.

The gay thing was a joke the first time. She mentiones it two more times after that if you peek on them and tell her you didn't find it hot and then Athena says it again, because apparently keep calling someone gay is "ha ha funny" or something. I don't know, I might be too old to get it.

 

[punisher2099]

So how long are you guys gonna beat this dead horse anyway? The dev is going to tell their story the way they want either accept it or for love of god move the fuck on. Dev do not i repeat do not let anyone bully you into changing you're story if you don't want to.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

What are you trying to insinuate here. I don’t control who does or doesn’t leave a review

A few points:

1. I don't think there was an insinuation but a suspicion of "some shady acts" by "some people".
2. I don't think it was directed at you or your team. But there are sometimes overzealous people who decide something is the "BEST GAME EVER!!!". They then find sites where the game is, register, post an amazing review of a game, and then go to a new site to do the same. These are thus highly biased, lacking real analysis, and untrustworthy.
3. On top of that, they give the false impression of wide approval by a community when, in fact, it's not that way at all. I'm not saying it couldn't get that approval over time, but for a new developer within a few days of dropping their first project? Doesn't really happen, even for great games.

I'm not saying the game doesn't deserve praise for what you've done. I'm just saying that these reviews become basically worthless. It actually probably hurts the game more than helps it. I've seen other games here that had the same shady reviews (one of which I had reviewed myself, actually). There were something like a couple dozen reviews. Then, magically, my review was the only one left. That raised eyebrows and damaged the reputation of the game, and it wasn't the developer's fault in any way. Far fewer people were willing to try it, because a single review of a game that had been around for something like 6–12 months also looks wrong, making people avoid the game.

 

[Osamabeenfappin]

What are you trying to insinuate here. I don’t control who does or doesn’t leave a review

Sorry did I tag you Slockie . Cuz you got real defensive real quick

 

[Slockie]

Sorry did I tag you Slockie . Cuz you got real defensive real quick

When you’re insinuating something like that on MY game thread of course I’m going to defend myself. I don’t care about reviews, sure they’re nice but I’d continue making the game if it had a .5 star review because I enjoy doing it.

 

[Osamabeenfappin]

When you’re insinuating something like that on MY game thread of course I’m going to defend myself. I don’t care about reviews, sure they’re nice but I’d continue making other people in this thread game if it had a .5 star review because I enjoy doing it.

Nah homie,I'd straight up tell you ask some of the other people in this thread.

 

[Deleted member 3250193]

The Heidi/Athena situation was a turn off for me, sad really, they seem interesting characters, so friendzoned for now.
Happy/relieved to see I'm not the only one feeling off in this; while playing kinda feel weird for the game telling me I should like gay scenes
Good intro though! Waiting for more.

That's a reasonable concern. I'll give more thought to how the MC's reactions to certain situations are handled in the future.

 

[linkinn]

So how long are you guys gonna beat this dead horse anyway? The dev is going to tell their story the way they want either accept it or for love of god move the fuck on. Dev do not i repeat do not let anyone bully you into changing you're story if you don't want to.

Giving opinions and discussing with other people is bullying the dev, good shit.

 

[Mpkstroff]

So how long are you guys gonna beat this dead horse anyway? The dev is going to tell their story the way they want either accept it or for love of god move the fuck on. Dev do not i repeat do not let anyone bully you into changing you're story if you don't want to.

Dead horse? This horse is alive and kiking!! For what I have read, almost all the people liked the game! The dames are all beautiful and interesting, some redhead, some goth, some milf; all with good renders. The plot is in development, but good for an introduction.
And I dont see any bulling, just discussions of tropes in porngames.. I may be grong, but I only see people really engaged with the game.