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for Selina & anna? unfortunately i already saw that in a previous playthrough.
Even the Cat in the park knew the MC was bad news if your doing that, they have a sence for these things. :p
 
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Machete

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I agree but at least the dev could have let the cheating part drag out longer, feels like the girls get to know the truth too fast so you are left with barely any content. This is a porn game after all so many want to experience all the possible content. Making separate saves for all the girls is pretty tedious
Well, i agree on this. I always said that, IMHO, commitment should come late in a playthrough, while at least for 2/3rds of the game you should be free to explore the relationship with multiple girls, if you wish so. After some point LI's should be wanting to get serious and you could go in bad ending territory if you keep fucking around. Or, eventually, there could be harem or miniharem routes.

Otherwise, strictly monogamous routes can be very dull. Expecially if you choose a "secondary" love interest who's barely in the game. Melody, i'm speaking with you... That damn brat Melody!

By the way i feel like one weak point of BaRS is that plot points tend to get into nothing whatsoever very quick. Take the whole father antagonist plot, for instance. It was literally the one conflict this story had and it was a pretty good one. It could have turned the path to success a hell of an unfair struggle to the final resolution on the end of the story. And what happened instead? Suddenly daddy was like "Naaa, it will be fiiiiine", just to quote "The Critical Drinker". Just like that. Out of the blue. Ok, there was a good reason storywise, but the timing makes very little sense. Now the story has to produce another mean of conflict, very late in the plot, to get to go. And even the rival band, which was another good source of conflict and Lisa should have risked to fall for the jerk dude to build up tension, it's done already. Just like that. Zero effort.

There's a some lack of structure in this story, IMHO.

And this is meant to be a constructive feedback, not a sterile flame. I still think this game is good, overall.
 

p22

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One bug to report, in my run where I never romanced Lisa/Jade (was with Selina and Rosa), after finishing update, the sexy scene between Lisa and Jade was unlocked.

I think non-sex scene that happens in this case, actually unlocked the sexy scene for some reason.

Not that I am complaining, but it was not intended for this run.
 

seden

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As someone tested the hopital ? Im not sure but I seem to remember that Lisa is ok with Selina as they do not meet then, the second being the concert, there no choice, its Lisa and Jade and that`s it.

As to an Harem ending, if he get enough money, what he does with it = what the girls agree to.
They are some place on this world there bigami is ok, an certain land for instance, a given social group not general of course.
The best would be to have Selina to care of the girls health, one of the office to manage money and its basicaly done, missing a com qualified hm, Anna ? Then its a path, employe and personal tie.
They are crisis each year then, with anniversary and christmass, out of having all the family to your place, best to have them meet before..

As to p0rn, go with scrappy cheat mod then play each route, save before hospital then deactivate out of the relation you want to keep. that should do it, guess there isnt much to the game coming in any case, its taking ti

Text error : As visiting Lisa after the 1st party there (at Larry) :
`You notice how the door to ger room..`
Guess they are more, only did not spot as playing trough on another sys = seen it before.
Not sure why text arent checked before being used, most of these errors are flag (would be flagged using a language or even dictionary checker) these days I mostly use notepad++ as its able to open a wide range of files type and support plenty of addons, including text check vs several dictionary.
 
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considering how lisa felt after what happend in Berry's place, i very much doubt she will be all too thrilled finding out the MC is sleeping with other girls, besides jade and lisa, or just lisa.
 

Skylaroo

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By the way i feel like one weak point of BaRS is that plot points tend to get into nothing whatsoever very quick.
Fully agree. This is why if I have to describe the game in one word, my choice of word is *"disappointing"*. Not because the game is bad, the game is still good, but it's disappointing because it could've been in Top 5 territory. This is a game that probably scored about 70-80 out of 100 for me while it could've been 95 out of 100.

Usually, good adult game would focus on either the romance/sex, or the non-sexual main plot of the game. This game has good foundation for both. The love interests are good and the models are gorgeous (pretty much no such thing as ugly character in this game). The main plot of MC's journey to become a rock star is also good and we can even say original for an adult game. However, both of them ended up very vanilla because they progressed far too smoothly.

1. The romance: every single girl in the game likes the MC. It's basically good intro -> relationship gets better -> sex -> official girlfriend. Until the end where maybe MC got dumped.
2. The rock band plot: similarly, always successful. Got 3rd member -> got 4th member -> got Gig1 -> got Gig2 -> got big contract -> success.

To provide some sort of drama so the game didn't become too vanilla, we were given the antagonists and conflicts that unfortunately fell very flat. The first antagonist is the father to provide conflict that he's against MC's dream to be a rock star. But there was no real conflict between them, the father didn't actively try to hinder MC's progress, and the conflict died when he was suddenly like "it's all good". Then of course attempt number two was the rival band that suddenly shot someone that happened to be Julia. That didn't really go anywhere either.

The failure in both conflicts IMO is because the two characters related to MC (father and Julia) are family members that are merely side characters in this game due to how small their roles are. They are not the love interest and/or band member. While family members are supposed to be important to MC, it was never really developed that way in the game (which is why 2 brothers and 1 sister are very irrelevant as a whole). And of course like you said, the conclusions of these conflicts also felt very abrupt that didn't make sense. So not only the characters involved are side characters, the ending of the conflicts are not satisfying either.

If I were to create the conflict, I'd make the father to be far more active in trying to hinder the band's success. Maybe the father could've paid off the rival band to start trouble. Maybe the father could've paid off an event organizer that would book the band but then canceled last minute, or sabotage the performance, etc. Then if we really have to get Julia shot, it could've been the rival band who accidentally shot her that the father ended up regretting the whole thing. He'd realize that his obsession to stop MC's dream was selfish and it almost cost him not only his relationship with MC but also Julia's life. And because MC's band still achieved success despite numerous attempt to sabotage them, the father would finally acknowledged that MC could be a successful rock star. During the father vs MC conflict, we could also get Julia to be more involved in helping MC. This would then make both father and Julia to be more relevant to the storyline which would make the father a stronger antagonist and Julia a more impactful victim.

At least next update the game would end with one last hurrah with big party for Julia so everyone goes home happy.
 

Canto Forte

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This game was never about family ... it was still a sending off of Mc into the world.
Going through town this afternoon, I overheard some highschoolers talking about their future.
They sayd move to a big city, get a flat, 2 rooms for them both love birds and their respective sister/brother,
get a job, see where they can get into uni somewhere.

That was their dream to go out of their family homes and start a life of their own.

This is this game 4 the MC, but our MC is a high roller heir to his fathers empire.

His perks are outstanding - phenomenal bachelor pad he himself feels like
his dad must have brought countless courtesans into - which he does pay homage to in no small measure.

His support from his sibling obnoxious big sis and her friends is outstanding - he gets his needs met.

Fully agree. This is why if I have to describe the game in one word, my choice of word is *"disappointing"*. Not because the game is bad, the game is still good, but it's disappointing because it could've been in Top 5 territory. This is a game that probably scored about 70-80 out of 100 for me while it could've been 95 out of 100.

Usually, good adult game would focus on either the romance/sex, or the non-sexual main plot of the game. This game has good foundation for both. The love interests are good and the models are gorgeous (pretty much no such thing as ugly character in this game). The main plot of MC's journey to become a rock star is also good and we can even say original for an adult game. However, both of them ended up very vanilla because they progressed far too smoothly.

1. The romance: every single girl in the game likes the MC. It's basically good intro -> relationship gets better -> sex -> official girlfriend. Until the end where maybe MC got dumped.
2. The rock band plot: similarly, always successful. Got 3rd member -> got 4th member -> got Gig1 -> got Gig2 -> got big contract -> success.

To provide some sort of drama so the game didn't become too vanilla, we were given the antagonists and conflicts that unfortunately fell very flat. The first antagonist is the father to provide conflict that he's against MC's dream to be a rock star. But there was no real conflict between them, the father didn't actively try to hinder MC's progress, and the conflict died when he was suddenly like "it's all good". Then of course attempt number two was the rival band that suddenly shot someone that happened to be Julia. That didn't really go anywhere either.

The failure in both conflicts IMO is because the two characters related to MC (father and Julia) are family members that are merely side characters in this game due to how small their roles are. They are not the love interest and/or band member. While family members are supposed to be important to MC, it was never really developed that way in the game (which is why 2 brothers and 1 sister are very irrelevant as a whole). And of course like you said, the conclusions of these conflicts also felt very abrupt that didn't make sense. So not only the characters involved are side characters, the ending of the conflicts are not satisfying either.

If I were to create the conflict, I'd make the father to be far more active in trying to hinder the band's success. Maybe the father could've paid off the rival band to start trouble. Maybe the father could've paid off an event organizer that would book the band but then canceled last minute, or sabotage the performance, etc. Then if we really have to get Julia shot, it could've been the rival band who accidentally shot her that the father ended up regretting the whole thing. He'd realize that his obsession to stop MC's dream was selfish and it almost cost him not only his relationship with MC but also Julia's life. And because MC's band still achieved success despite numerous attempt to sabotage them, the father would finally acknowledged that MC could be a successful rock star. During the father vs MC conflict, we could also get Julia to be more involved in helping MC. This would then make both father and Julia to be more relevant to the storyline which would make the father a stronger antagonist and Julia a more impactful victim.

At least next update the game would end with one last hurrah with big party for Julia so everyone goes home happy.
Where did you see any real drama in his sheltered life I wonder?
 

Lockyn87

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Man, I thought choosing selena would mean mc could keep having sex with rosa but looks like that might not be the case.
 

Villus

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So guys, can't we move on only with Catherine and Rosa? Or was it only one time thing? i tried with Selina and without Selina, both way didn't work. Is there any third way?
 

DarknessDai

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i'm really disappointed that there is Only 4 LI for the MC its not much , i would have loved if every girl in the poster had her Own Route i liked Rosa and cath as i love milfs lol but as i saw they are only for sex nothing more , so is it confirmed that there are only 4 LI or things may change in Future ?
 

Canto Forte

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Side chicks are just that .. they are not interested in the MC in any deeper manner.
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So guys, can't we move on only with Catherine and Rosa? Or was it only one time thing? i tried with Selina and without Selina, both way didn't work. Is there any third way?
i'm really disappointed that there is Only 4 LI for the MC its not much , i would have loved if every girl in the poster had her Own Route i liked Rosa and cath as i love milfs lol but as i saw they are only for sex nothing more , so is it confirmed that there are only 4 LI or things may change in Future ?
Cath is mastu alone in her office, while anna is happy to take Mc on and really be with him.
That is the Li material versus man eater babe.

Selina wants to have you every way possible, does not care where you do it, as long as you are together.
Rose, on the other hand, just finds some dude in her home and jumps his bones.

Yet again, you see deffinite Li material in one babe and man eater careless bombshell in the other.
 
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Canto Forte

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Li gurls really have ta care more about being with MC than giving him the lip and
disrespecting him like some lost puppy tongue rolled on the floor good 4 nothing peep.

His own eX Gf is just not interested in him any deeper than her BFFs whom she constantly valueas more than MC.
That is why they did and would never work - she has baggage she won”t shake to be with MC.
 

Machete

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This game was never about family ... it was still a sending off of Mc into the world.
Going through town this afternoon, I overheard some highschoolers talking about their future.
They sayd move to a big city, get a flat, 2 rooms for them both love birds and their respective sister/brother,
get a job, see where they can get into uni somewhere.

That was their dream to go out of their family homes and start a life of their own.

This is this game 4 the MC, but our MC is a high roller heir to his fathers empire.

His perks are outstanding - phenomenal bachelor pad he himself feels like
his dad must have brought countless courtesans into - which he does pay homage to in no small measure.

His support from his sibling obnoxious big sis and her friends is outstanding - he gets his needs met.



Where did you see any real drama in his sheltered life I wonder?
Well, indeed. The story is some kind of coming of age story. No problem with that. Yet a story, to be such, must have some kind of conflict in it, so that MC(s) may depart from their state of comfort, live the "adventure" and the reach a new status quo.

That's basically what narrative is about.

Otherwise you only have a sequence of everyday events.

My DnD dungeon master used to point this to us, when we complayined of how much shit was raining on our characters. He was lilke "If shit doesn't fall, the campaign would be like: ok, you woke up in your beds. You rested well tonight. You procede packing your breakfast. Oh no! The milk went acid! Too bad, this morning you'll boil tea instead...".

So, the problem is not that the story is about moving out and starting a life. The problem is that if you drop any conflict early in the story, kinda independently from MC's agency, what's left is barely a story at all. When you project a narration, and i don't claim to be any expert on it, you should stick with the basic structure of a story, more or less. Then you can play with it, but you can't ignore or totally destructurate it.

It's just a general consideration.
 
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