VN Ren'Py Completed Become a Rock Star [v1.01] [Mr Jet]

[WarriorSteel]

I strongly disagree with everything in this comment

adult visual novels can be more than just quick fap material

yes there are a lot of visual novels on this site that are Mindless

fuck Fest but not all of them

I have played many adult visual novels with stories that was so beautiful and heartwarming it made me cry

in my opinion the best visual novel

are just really good stories that just happened to have sex in them

games like
Summer's Gone

Leap of Faith

One Lie

The Entrepreneur

Strangers on Paper



and for the record that I'm 34

I was agreeing with you until you wrote "Summers Gone".
Half a decade without any sex scenes is too much.

 

[Vidal the king of Pervert]

I was agreeing with you until you wrote "Summers Gone".
Half a decade without any sex scenes is too much.

summer's gone doesn't need sex scenes it'll happen when the story is ready

for you it needs sex for other people it does not that's my point

it's still super popular and Love by a lot of people

not by everyone but that's okay too

 

[Vidal the king of Pervert]

I don't think you disagree at all with me. The fact that out of 500 pages of games, 14997 total results, you can only name 1/3 of a page of good novels worth the effort, I think it proves my point.

I also consider some good stories, not S+ but acceptable ones in other novels. And I also think that pandemic helped people to spend more time reading and post pandemic things had gotten worse.

And I also think there are a few very very lewd but well written novels. Not everything is black or white, but the overall shade of gray of this "industry" is pretty dark.

well I have a reading disability so I can only play games made in Ren'Py
maybe that's why I can only name a few

I'm not smart enough to know anything about that all I know is if you want to make a good visual novel with a good stories you can

it sounds like your point is the visual novel industry is bad so there's no point in trying to make a good game

it's not hopeless things can improve

sure there are a lot of Mindless

fuck Fest is being made every day but they're also a lot of good amazing games being made to

 

[succuk]

My friend, I completely understand you because Im pretty similar, but loose all faith, it's not going to happen. Several reasons:

1) Rendering is extremely slow. Consider that you have 2 RTX 4090, the last model, and you have 2 of those. An open public space with several characters, takes like 30 minutes to render. Then you see something is wrong, and you have to correct and rerender. Everything is FUCKING slow.

What happens is that the storyline and storyboard you would write gets completely fucked up. You have to cut scenarios and scenes drastically, so that hits really bad the story development.

2) This games are mostly played by very young people who want to masturbate. The attention span is very low, the urges for sex are incredibly high. Think that most people will watch the novel with "skip text ON", full Ctrl, until the sex scene with their dicks already on hand. That forces devs to include several sex scenes per update, even if they fit the narrative or not, and that makes the story be rushed and stupid.

3) You dont have time to build empathy for the characters, they have to overact like whores and sluts. As you see more and more characters who are only sex dolls, you start to develop some sort of sociopathy, you stop caring about them, they are sex dolls, not "humans".

4) There is a hoeflation. Update 1: masturbation. Update 2: hj/bj. Update 3: Vaginal sex. Update 4: Anal sex. Now what? More characters, bigger cocks, more cocks, more aggresive, more submisive, more humilliation. The inflation is one directional. Add that you don't care anymore about the human side of characters, they are just sex dolls, and that brings most novels to insane levels of stupidity, making everything unreal and unnatural.

5) As this progression happens slowly as you watch more and more of this "novels", the brain starts to internalize, uses relativization, amplification, lucifer effect, etc... and then you are just craving for more and more unreal stories, and when someone claims some realism or claims that nothing like that happens at all IRL or very very very extremely rare in very small niches, you just look like the weird guy stopping the party, will be labeled as hater, so the author wont follow your advise.


At the end of the day, this porn adult game "industry" has become its own internet black hole of weirdness, where things are far gone in deviation, and I dont see any inmediate light to bring it out of the current state. It is just quick fap for teenagers as brutal and abusive as posible, nothing else. Acept it or quit.

I personaly considered writting a more realistic slow paced novel, with a real "good side" worth the effor and a "corruption part" not so rewarded (not punished also), as a differentiation of every novel doing the same. I quit the idea, technical reasons, and I don't see a business for that at all. The overall mental state of this place shows me the consumers are far gone from that novel angle and I'm not going to contribute to more mental damage with the current type of novels written.

Thanks for explaining everything for me. I can imagine the developers suffers a lot, but they need to think people like us also. Because I always like to play slow games, and mostly for story.

That hoeflation turns teenager brains to shithole, thats bad for their future sexual life and also behaviours on their real life. But of course they dont know that, I can only respect their opinion.

 

[Bloodguard]

I was agreeing with you until you wrote "Summers Gone".
Half a decade without any sex scenes is too much.

True that, and Leap of Faith made me want to kill myself. If I want a good story without sexy time, I will read an actual novel or watch a movie. AVNs without the porn are worthless to me.

 

[Bavor]

well i'm not patron or in his discord.

Then you are complaining about a lack of updates when you don't use the two areas where he provides the most updates.

 

[cxx]

Then you are complaining about a lack of updates when you don't use the two areas where he provides the most updates.

i check patreon when some1 asks when new game.

 

[Ramen-]

it'll happen when the story is ready

You will be long gone from this world before that happens

 

[Vidal the king of Pervert]

You will be long gone from this world before that happens

maybe maybe not brother

but at least I'll have a great story that touches my heart

to take with me when I go

 

[thienpx]

Thank ad

 

[HowieGames]

Hey! i know this isnt a harem game. but I kinda don't want to miss out too much. so is there any way that I can get as much content as I can without playing it multiple times? or maybe until what point that we have to focus on 1 LI's path? cause focusing on 1 LI's after maybe 1 episode feels rushed for me

 

[WarriorSteel]

Hey! i know this isnt a harem game. but I kinda don't want to miss out too much. so is there any way that I can get as much content as I can without playing it multiple times? or maybe until what point that we have to focus on 1 LI's path? cause focusing on 1 LI's after maybe 1 episode feels rushed for me

Yes.
You can break up with the girls you don't want to have a relationship with.
With Lisa is to follow Mari and Savannah.

With Jane is when your sister confronts you if you are serious.

With Anna is when Catherine tells you to breakup with her.

With Selina is when she asks if you see her as your girlfriend.

You can fool around with them until those triggers.

 

[cxx]

Hey! i know this isnt a harem game. but I kinda don't want to miss out too much. so is there any way that I can get as much content as I can without playing it multiple times? or maybe until what point that we have to focus on 1 LI's path? cause focusing on 1 LI's after maybe 1 episode feels rushed for me

with wt-mod you can unlock and lock paths freely.

 

[HowieGames]

Yes.
You can break up with the girls you don't want to have a relationship with.
With Lisa is to follow Mari and Savannah.

With Jane is when your sister confronts you if you are serious.

With Anna is when Catherine tells you to breakup with her.

With Selina is when she asks if you see her as your girlfriend.

You can fool around with them until those triggers.

oooh I see! thankyou for explaining!

 

[HowieGames]

with wt-mod you can unlock and lock paths freely.

like all of em? without bad consequences?

 

[cxx]

like all of em? without bad consequences?

yes all but if you have conflicting paths open for example in hospital then Hell On Earth.

 

[HowieGames]

yes all but if you have conflicting paths open for example in hospital then Hell On Earth.

dang.. aight, then I'll give the mod a try! thankyou man!

 

[cxx]

dang.. aight, then I'll give the mod a try! thankyou man!

just save before hospital and then load and play each lis paths until general plot continues.

 

[Mookys]

I enjoyed this nice game. I recommand it.
One slight regret: no endings with certain female characters.

 

[cxx]

I enjoyed this nice game. I recommand it.
One slight regret: no endings with certain female characters.

well 1 ending is supposed to come (don't ask when) and nicole wasn't li.