What is the point of asking the player whether MC wants to peak at mother and asking the player whether mother will show the revealing outfit to him if she gives him a blowjob later anyway? Just make it a kinetic novel, it is better than deceiving the player that this game has choice.
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Another dev using harem and incest as disguise to do a NTR game
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Hi for the images the game look really good. But read all the page till now... for now I put this thread among the ones I have to check. To see how the game progress. As long as the game is harem/incest/netori and nothing to share, I might as well give it a try in the future.
But lately I've seen too many of those who suddenly transform the game into something that i do not like. It's not a problem if I can avoid things. But I have to be sure that none of my women is even touched with a finger by another man.
Even how the mother is described... i have to make sure no one touches her and i can kick the guy's ass on the phone.
As i say, i am ok with Harem, incest, netori
But i avoid like a pluge netorare/netorase
I see you say no netorare and i am happy about this.
But i also see that you most probably wanna do netorase... i do not like shared things. So till i am not sure that everything is avoidable. For now i just watch and see how the game progress. And if everything go well. Surelly i play it. Also if i can i share the info of the game to other friend in case they wanna try and help you with money. But only if i see that the game is how we like (me and me friend ofc).
Anyway good luck hope that you first game go well.
But lately I've seen too many of those who suddenly transform the game into something that i do not like. It's not a problem if I can avoid things. But I have to be sure that none of my women is even touched with a finger by another man.
Even how the mother is described... i have to make sure no one touches her and i can kick the guy's ass on the phone.
As i say, i am ok with Harem, incest, netori
But i avoid like a pluge netorare/netorase
I see you say no netorare and i am happy about this.
But i also see that you most probably wanna do netorase... i do not like shared things. So till i am not sure that everything is avoidable. For now i just watch and see how the game progress. And if everything go well. Surelly i play it. Also if i can i share the info of the game to other friend in case they wanna try and help you with money. But only if i see that the game is how we like (me and me friend ofc).
Anyway good luck hope that you first game go well.
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No matter how he tries to spin it, this is nothing but a NTR focused game. And it should be in the OP.
well practicaly if u came for incest than mother is LIs....and if she have sex on phone is that NTR?
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Yeah i alrady see this two images. But a thing is a phone call that can be stopped and avoided. And a thing is... if this event go till the end. Is for this that i say: Till the developer give me the avoidable choice is not a problem. (let's specify a real avoidable choice not skipping choice).
If i can avoid every shit. For me is a try, because i play the story i want. But if the developer wanna do sharing/ntr
, i just deleted the thread and move to another game.As i say for now i just watch the thread. I haven't even tried the game. It will be understood shortly or in any case between a few updates, what intentions the developer has.
Watch the thread and read who ppl say after they play and i learn if i can play or avoid the game.
Easy
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If this is just an event where the developer wanna build how the mother is sexually unsatisfied. Its just a world building. I can understand a woman that do not have sex with her husband make her do the wrong choice. In this case is just a phone sex call.
till the thing stop there, for me is not a ntr. Is just a lonely woman who need someone to stay with her.
But if the event go till the end without you cant stop her. The yes this become NTR. So i trash the game and go to other game.
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Bro, i can understand what you wanna say, but no penetration, not tuching things, no kiss. Not really cheating, is just a lonely women. And till that moment you are not in her eyes. Ofc is always a bad things. But if you can avoid this, let the mother understand that there is a better option (the son option ofc) she stop to do this shit on the phone and do it all the time with her son. The question is... do she stay loyal to the son? The ntr happen if she start to do it behind the son's back as well .well so sex on phone is not sex?
i am sure that it was big thing in 80s
At last i thing is like this.
idk in lots of games dev trying to avoid ntr tag cause using same logic as u sayed now....she is not his LIs yet so she can fucking anybody.... not exactly what i am looking in incest/harem game
soo..
Loser fat mc who gets beats and abused by his sis.
slut mom who is a love interest as well having phone sex with her master? Also saying they will meet in 2 week? df!?
So you also ruined the appeal of netori because the mom is ALREADY ready to cheat on her husband without the mc even making her. it should not be some random dude it should be the mc currupting her and him having her cheat with him instead.
You already ruined the mom with that btw and the obvious ntr vibe this game give off it's obviously masked under a false haram tag.
So yup the mom is ruined for me and I don't think this game is for me.
Also I seen a screenshot that the dev like ntr so red flags any way and don't be surprise when you catch the mom getting dominated by her master. And if he appeared it's even WORSE.
surprise ntr is notorious on here.
with the mom but it's not a good look. So she doing this because she is lonely? what is stopping her from potentially cheating on the mc down the line if she is lonely? because this the vibe that gets put in my mind seeing it. That's not how you build up the mom as a love interest, like I said it's a bad look. Have the son catch her masturbating saying how she is unsatisfied instead. yea it's nothing new but better than catching her having phone sex. Welp not my game but I have low tolarence for this stuff nowadays Also it don't matter if the mc is currently not on the mom radar, SHE IS STILL A LOVE INTEREST so techincally her having phone sex or having any sex is ntr.
if you trying to get harem players having stuff like that is a no no, Not even incest fans either.
have not played but seeing the red flags is a no no.
who are you trying to appeal to dev? if it's harem than FAILED, if it's incest? Netori? FAILED
if ntr? than make it a ntr game and stop masking it under a false haram tag. Be up front and do it so people can stop wasting there time and can move on to something else.
you can't please everyone so it's better to decide off bat what crowd you want to appeal to.
Loser fat mc who gets beats and abused by his sis.
slut mom who is a love interest as well having phone sex with her master? Also saying they will meet in 2 week? df!?
So you also ruined the appeal of netori because the mom is ALREADY ready to cheat on her husband without the mc even making her. it should not be some random dude it should be the mc currupting her and him having her cheat with him instead.
You already ruined the mom with that btw and the obvious ntr vibe this game give off it's obviously masked under a false haram tag.
So yup the mom is ruined for me and I don't think this game is for me.
Also I seen a screenshot that the dev like ntr so red flags any way and don't be surprise when you catch the mom getting dominated by her master. And if he appeared it's even WORSE.
surprise ntr is notorious on here.
with the mom but it's not a good look. So she doing this because she is lonely? what is stopping her from potentially cheating on the mc down the line if she is lonely? because this the vibe that gets put in my mind seeing it. That's not how you build up the mom as a love interest, like I said it's a bad look. Have the son catch her masturbating saying how she is unsatisfied instead. yea it's nothing new but better than catching her having phone sex. Welp not my game but I have low tolarence for this stuff nowadays Also it don't matter if the mc is currently not on the mom radar, SHE IS STILL A LOVE INTEREST so techincally her having phone sex or having any sex is ntr.
if you trying to get harem players having stuff like that is a no no, Not even incest fans either.
have not played but seeing the red flags is a no no.
who are you trying to appeal to dev? if it's harem than FAILED, if it's incest? Netori? FAILED
if ntr? than make it a ntr game and stop masking it under a false haram tag. Be up front and do it so people can stop wasting there time and can move on to something else.
you can't please everyone so it's better to decide off bat what crowd you want to appeal to.
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In this case she is a LI. So is NTR. If that happen i am not interessed in the game. Its pretty easy.
I can understand world build, i can understand put other men, to make a good plot.
Till the men do not touch the girls/women, is called world building. Just to make the story a bit harder.
I don't like it, but it can be accepted. As long as none of the potential love interests do anything with other men.
Ofc if the developer wanna make a to much slutty mother, no thank you.
As i say i can accept a sexually frustrated woman. An idiot husband who doesn't think about her, so much pressure, so much dissatisfaction. There may be that this happens. But it has to stay there like a phone call. At the time, the developer decides that they meet and have sex and the MC can't stop it. For me it's simple, I delete the topic and move on to another game. Simple. I haven't even played it anyway, I'm just observing.
I'll play if it suits me. Otherwise I'll go away. Here we can only advise, not oblige. It's up to the developer to figure out who he wants to follow his game. What target is it aiming for. If he tries to make money. My advice is:
The game need to be:
Harem/incest/netori stop.
If he want to make lass money, put everyting he want and in like within 3/4 months this game died and he simply wasted time to do something else.
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Phone sex is still cheating. She is calling that guy master, begging him to let her cum and arranging to meet so they can fuck. Speaking as someone that loves netori, it loses a lot of its appeal if the woman is already a cheater. I prefer her to be faithful to her husband before she starts an affair with the MC. It doesn't feel rewarding if she would have gone and fucked any random guy if the MC wasn't around. The MC should be the one that makes her want to cheat.
Making the mother a cheating slut right off the bat seems like the absolute worst thing you could do if you want to appeal to incest harem fans.
Making the mother a cheating slut right off the bat seems like the absolute worst thing you could do if you want to appeal to incest harem fans.
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I was about to say if I was the only one that got NTR vibes from reading the OP and now I think I might be right about it but its weird the dev itself said in page 5, like seeing here, that no ntr will be added and that it is an harem game but the the mother is having phone sex? like that doesnt make sense at all but hey I could be wrong still I dont think many harem players will play this if the mom has that relationship with her master since the begining of the game
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It would be my guess that the 'possibility of NTR' is only being used as a plot device to give the MC motivation for getting stronger and taking care of his family. I don't think there willo be any actual NTR. Just outside threats from other characters. Which is a pretty good idea. It adds conflict to the story. A lot of stories with no conflict can get pretty boring.
See FAQ on front page - No NTR
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that's stupid , that's what anyone would call "lazy writing"
cause there are no other ways of doing that, just ntr
no, it's not, it's a stupid idea... it's the laziest way you could write anything, and by doing it the way this dev did it, you're alienating people from both camps.
says you...
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I guess you'd be more of A Knights Tale fan then, eh?
Nothing wrong with it, I just thought it was pretty boring for the most part with almost no conflict whatsoever.
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Didn't the MC's family have to flee from some assassins? Is that not enough conflict? Why does the game need this NTR baiting? The vast majority of harem fans don't want to see the MC's mother as a slut for another man. This plot would make sense if it was an NTR game but that's not what the dev is advertising.