Well I though it was some kind of... I don't know how to explain it. A "something bad is going to happen" feeling for the MC, but the dev said that
The thing is that there's a ton of hints that the girls are already in "relationships" with other guys, forced or willingly. For example the sister bringing home that douchebag and taking him to her room. The dev insists that there's no NTR, but she can fuck him, suck his cock, or do whatever she wants and since she's not in a relationship with the MC it doesn't count as NTR. Of course later on the dev also said that no-one else will touch the girls in any sexual way. Then why the fuck did he put that scene in? And why did she took the douche in her room acting all weird at the same time? To help him do his taxes? I get that the dev wants to give the sense of competition and having to win the girl over, but it could've been more subtle. There's a difference between "winning a race to get your prize" and "trying to steal the prize that someone already won in a race you weren't allowed to enter"... I know people have a past, not every girl is a virgin etc. and that's obviously right, but people can be single too. It's not that unusual. And they can still be pursued by someone else to have the same sense of competition, but the whole concept/trope:
How about making things more realistic and adding depht to story. Without that douche that scene could be like this.
You see her hugging him with a huge smile on her face, she stayed out all night (probably with him), she said they've been dating for a month, and they lock themselves in her room because she wants him to help her with her writters block... but they're not fucking! Yeah... That's definitely the case! I want to give this game another chance, but when you get scenes like this one and then the dev insists that noone else will have any sexual interactions with the girls... Well, don't you think he's just bullshiting us? Unless he thinks that if we don't see it, it doesn't count, which is also bullshit.
Of course that scene make me suspicious too and I also hate ntr, but when the dev says theres not going to be any so I decide to trust his word. And I can't see any reason why he should lie about it.
I don't know man. Maybe because he doesn't want to admit it hidding behind the fact that she's not in a relationship with the MC yet. I get that I misunderstood the mom part, (and it was just a dream) but the fact that the sister actually said that she's dating a douche for a whole fucking month... I can't see how can he go around this shit, unless of course the next chapter will start with the douchebag complaining that she hasn't put out yet. But if you want to take a realistic approach and then you are implying that a couple hasn't done anything sexual at all (and I'm obvliously not talking only about sex, since the dev has a whole fucking list about the things that nobody other than the MC is doing with the girls) after a whole month... Well... That's leading us back to the bullshit arguement... I just find it stupid when people are trying to go around NTR, using cheap excuses, just so the don't have to put that fucking tag on their game. I wouldn't ever bother complain about all that shit in a game that has this tag on (because it would be just stupid), but when someone's trying to sneak in stuff like that, I get really annoyed. Just call it what it is. Anyway. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. If the next update keeps leading us to the same road, where you know everyone's getting some cock, but you should be fine because if you don't see it, it doesn't "count", I'll just put this game in my ignore list and the dev in my personal black one...
Ok, you're right. I just don't like it when I get the feeling that someone's trying to bullshit his way around something, instead of just calling it what it is, and get over with it. It's my pet peeve in a way.
I don't think the creator is out to antagonize his fanbase. He just wants to tell a story. I doubt it means hidden ntr or anything. The sister's boyfriend is a douche and I think the mc will convince the sister to drop him eventually. It is just the beginning, give the game a few updates to develop and you will be happy to see the mc growing to have more influence over the girls.
I don't want to continue this conversation man, but even if she eventualy breaks up with the douche, they've already been dating for a whole fucking month. It's not like they're 12 years old and they're just holding hands all this time. Why would I be happy with a douchebag's sloppy seconds? Do you get my point? This whole scene from start to end is screaming the "forbidden word".
That's interesting and I'm glad you laid that out cleanly. I was a bit put off by the scene primarily because the render of the smeared eye makeup looked identical. Didn't even occur to me that it was a dream meeting reality with the last scene in the car. Nice touch. I'm sure it will make more sense once the game continues a bit but it threw me for a loop ending this current episode the way it did. Nice to know I didn't need to worry
Granted, you bring a decent spiel on that in episode 2, so can see where you're coming from... all I can say to that is people get ready to fight over NTR for whatever reason, and on that level, we're generally super Sam about it. (I say while still in the middle of ep 2, I dunno, maybe he turns out to be into it, in which case, never mind about that)
That said, two things; on the one hand, there are still a couple of grammar errors (again, granted, probably can't afford to hire an editor on that budget, and doubtful you'll find anyone willing to do that much for free), on the other hand, this post flowed really well for a non native English speaker. Something something "frustration is a universal language."
She literally spelled it out? If MC previously checked on her piano playing the day before, she references that thing they talked about? If we're going to be worried about "NTR-man strikes again!" every time a girl's off the screen, and that she was "totally maybe lying about what she's about to do" anyway, not much at all can be done about characters literally spelling out what they're doing, can it?
As for a first playthrough no-walkthrough of my own, gonna put it out there, just (almost) always pick top option. Except for the very first one, the rest seem to be the way to go for more content; otherwise you skip back to where it was going to wind up anyway.
It's not every time a girl's off the screen dude. But when when we are talking about one of the two possible love interest, and she's actually saying that she's already been dating someone for a month, she stayed the whole night out, you find her the next morning sneaking in, while he's holding her in his arms, she has a huge smile on her face, then she's taking him to her room to help her with her "writer's block", but the dev insists that noone else is laying a finger on the girls(!!!) do you really find it that weird that I believe he's just bullshiting his way around NTR? She didn't say they just started dating and since the dev is all about realism I don't think that when an adult woman is dating the ultimate stereotype of a douchebag for a whole fucking month she hasn't done anything with him. And no, I don't expect every girl to be a virgin, but when she's a love interest and she's currently fucking someone else, just call it what it is and don't try to sell it like something different.
Coming to you live from a flash of lightning, NewsFlash! It's entirely possible, as an adult, to be out all night and have not been boning~ (gasp). Given the above, it's equally possible to bring someone home in the morning and (deeper gasp) one or both parties aren't "about" fucking each other's brains out moments after meeting one or the other's inquisitive "roommate."
Like I said, the dev said no-one else is touching the girls, so one again I'm calling bullshit! I agree that it's not technically NTR, (that's why I said he's bullshiting his way around it) but since there isn't a term for a love interest fucking someone else, a lot of people see it that way. Also stealing someone else's girl is still NTR (Netori) if you do something with her while they're dating or you are the reason for their breakup.
And since you keep talking to me like I'm a five year old or something, with the newsflashes, the gasps and the whole passive ironic attitude, let's see what the dev actually wrote!
That sounds more like a you (or "us," given we're the fuckers that shorthand it to the point that they're equivalent to the 3 letters instead of very different, as they are) problem, as opposed to a direct opposition to the statement. It isn't NTR, and furthermore, whether she is (again) stolen or for legitimate reasons breaks up with him before anything is done with MC, is the devil in the details.
As we've heartily (no one is debating) established he's a douchebag, of course she wouldn't want him to meet her mother? They got grilled when MC catches them, they were trying to avoid that to begin with.
And what's your goddamn problem with that? You can call bullshit all you want, but at this point, where you've driven the past page or so of back and forth, if that's all you're going on, I'm going to have to recommend a hearty dose of Chill the Fuck Out. Once more with feeling, the morning of episode 2 is the first indication of MC becoming at all aware of person he's living with as an actual member of the opposite gender he could find himself attracted to, you being offended at the idea that (is it merited now? I think it is) 'gasp!' they live in a society where physical contact is a "thing" and people do so regardless of the MC's internal struggle, is mind-boggling.
I'm dumbfounded by the vehemence spat at it. The hell's it got to do with you whether a character your character canonically isn't making goo-goo eyes at yet, is doing something you're not subjected to in any capacity except paranoia? That shit ain't healthy, dude.
Let's start from the fact that this converstion started because you quoted something I wrote and not the other way around, so I'm not going back and forth like you said for no reason. I'm just answering comments where someone quoted me. About the douchebag, I don't think he doesn't want to be there, (because he believes he's gonna get some) he's just annoyed because he got caught. I'm not saying that they're gonna fuck like rabbits and that's it. She might have other reasons, although the way the dev wrote the phrase "help me with... my writer's block" is one more of the stupid hints I'm talking about in most of my comments. Since the dev insists they won't fuck, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Why the fuck not? What I don't get is why did he fill his game with moments like that, if he didn't want us to believe that the characters have a sex life. You don't know what's going on, but you have to believe that someone who lied to you just the day before, and chose to date a douchebag, is a "good girl", just because... Also here's the sloppy seconds thing I said (to someone who said that I'll be happy when the MC win her over) and you commented on before. I didn't mean it the way you might think. You said yourself that she knows the dude is a douchebag and that's why she wanted to sneak him in without anyone seeing him. Fair enough. Then why whould I care for a woman who is willingly in a relationship with a guy like that and if I get to have her afterwards I should feel happy about it? This kind of behavior is killing that character for a lot of people, when she's supposed to be one of the two main love interests (the dev said it). The only reason I bother with these comments is because I had high hopes for this game. I like the premise behind it, but this "I want it to be as realistic as possible" mentality the dev has, led him to a road where he's using annoying cliches (the douchy boyfriend is a great example) and hints that all the love interests are getting some or not (you can't say for sure, so you'll have to wait the next 123 episodes to find out) left and right. I find it cheap if you like. Well if the MC's friend stop getting more screen time that all the rest characters combined would help too... Because he's not really the comic relief he was supposed to be.
