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Sorry to disappoint, but this is not a high elf. This is a different race.
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This would've worked way better if Josy weren't there to steal the spotlight.
- Sep 20, 2018
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I've always thought that exchange was weird. Jill makes a big deal of not telling the MC her surname supposedly because people are always trying to use her for her family. Yet when Rusty makes clear he *doesn't* know who Jill's family is, the first thing she does is pull rank on him. Similarly, as you say, this Jill is far more self-assured than the Jill who goes crying to Bella at the thought of having to live up to her deal with Tybalt. (Then again, Jill was a lot less feeble in Season 1 so the contrast wasn't quite as stark back when Episode 5 came out.)
Really, I think it just comes down to DPC being something of a sloppy writer at times. Jill hid her family from the MC to butter up the player about how super-special-awesome the MC is (and tease the mystery of her family a bit). Jill one-upped Rusty with her family because it made for a cool, humorous scene. The fact that Jill's behavior is inconsistent across both scenes doesn't really concern DPC because we weren't meant to compare them; if we were, he would have made explicit reference to the proper comparisons in the game.
DPC is very good at fleshing out his characters, it's one of his big strengths. But he's happy to cheat on small details if they get in the way of the of a given scene he wants to write.
From what I read, I thought he was just playtesting those routes and the major bulk of ep 9 is finished. Now he's doing something for God knows what but I'm pretty sure anything else for the specific routes will just be like finishing touches or something. I mean, if 95% of the renders are already done then I think it's safe to say he's pretty much done working on that and it's just playing through the routes for final edits. Unless he gets another jolt of inspiration then, see you guys in 2023 I guess.
See that's the thing about the increasingly higher expectations as development time goes on. I'm always doubtful when things get hyped this much. At this point, I'd rather just see a further continuation of the story than "Oh cool, he put that one thing in the game. Awesome!". Seems like a cart before the horse type of thing. It's like talking about all the cool garnishes the chef has put on the plate before but the actual next course hasn't come out yet. I love the small details he puts into the dialogue but that's something that can be appreciated when accompanying the actual "meat and potatoes". I'm running on fumes, my guy.
Still in comparison, a lot of devs just serve you a boiled boot and call it a game. In DPC's case, it's like he comes out with fireworks and says "LOOK AT ALL THE FUCKING FIREWORKS, GUYS!" Everyone's hyped but I'm just sitting there like "Ok that's pretty damn cool but it's been 7 months since the appetizer was served."
I'm not saying I'd rather eat the boot but I'm also not saying that delaying each successive course for an increasing number of intricately cut carrots and tomatoes makes much sense either.
- Jan 8, 2022
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I don't think, it's comparable, Rusty brags with his name and power, Jill using her name is (only in this case) some kind of self defense. It's obvious that she doesn't like to use a well known family name to impress others, with MC it is other than with Rusty. She has feelings for him (at least no distraction like with Rusty, based on their first meeting), it's like she wants to test MC if he is for her or her name.
But as many times mentioned, she also has some things like a superior complex, helping others without getting pegged for (and maybe not with the result she is hoping for).
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Ilhares and others have brought up this notion Jill has no right to interfere when MC asked her not to multiple times. It's baseless.
I'm not familiar with the US college experience, but a cursory glance suggests that like educational institutions elsewhere there's no tolerance for violence on campus & there's an expectation to report incidents (
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Of course the MC & many players might not like it for various reasons, but it's got nothing to do with Jill not having the right to do so.
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Just started this game 3 days ago, quite interesting but I was mindblown
, had to pause the game and collect my thoughts for a while.
Btw, I just started episode 5 and the latest discussion here is about Jill only, are the other characters’ path not interesting enough? I was thinking either Sage or Josy+Maya path if it’s frustrating to be with Jill.
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Btw, I just started episode 5 and the latest discussion here is about Jill only, are the other characters’ path not interesting enough? I was thinking either Sage or Josy+Maya path if it’s frustrating to be with Jill.
- Mar 9, 2020
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Yeah, end of episode 3.
I was stunned for a while but I decided to go with the relationship instead of the friendship role.
- Oct 24, 2018
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All of the relationships are worthy, it just depends on who you're into. Right now the thread is talking about Jill, but if you want to talk about MJ, go right ahead.
Since this game is still in development, it’s hard to decide who to pursue as there’s no ending yet. Hence, I’ll go with the dating everyone option first until the game forces me to choose. Then, I’ll have multiple saves to explore each relationship.
- Jul 5, 2021
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It's probably worth it to start those multiple playthroughs now (after your first one), since we're ostensibly half-way through the game. The first runthrough is fun because you get to fuck around and find out, for better or worse, but the other paths are just different enough to make it worthwhile. Plus going forward, the upcoming Chapter Nine is (theoretically) where it will really start to diverge.
Ok sure, but I did have a different save before Sage’s path, before MJ’s path so I can still revisit.
Alright, thanks for the heads up. Will keep that in mind.
- Jun 12, 2020
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Sage is the BEST. Highly recommended. imo order of paths are: Sage >>>>> Maya + Josy > Bella > Jill.
Of course, no disrespect to the other characters and their paths, I personally think that all paths are good as I've played all of them. Jill could be slightly annoying at times but it's a good path to be on nonetheless.
When I first started, I thought the MG is either Josy or Maya but I was dead wrong.
Right, that’s why I selected Sage’s path now and see how it goes. I agree that Jill is annoying but I guess that’s how she was written.
- Jun 15, 2022
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Yes, I'm also thinking about this version, it was made for a good scene. If Jill was like this throughout the game, then I would even like her and would be much higher in the LI list.