That's ok, Tybalt gonna be calling me dad soon anyways.
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Please help me, has anyone found a solution for the mac problem? running it through permission fixer for mac didnt work, help :C
- Sep 27, 2020
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Rena is a main love interest and you can sleep around plenty and still end up with her at the end of the game. Yes Melissa or Megan die but shit happens, you can still have a proper ending in Acting Lessons. Rena was my main choice from the moment I saw her so I guess that's why I am not as sour as some on that game.
We're half way through this game, why are obsessed with a potential ending anyways. If you want Bella then keep your dick in your pants.
Choices have consequences and while the affinity system makes some arbitrary decisions automatically for you, it's refreshing to me after struggling to get through the lovey dovey WVM.
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Having now run through my DIK, CHICK and Neutral play through I have some more thoughts;
Broadly I like the update. I think it could have been better, but some stuff is really going to depend on where the story winds up.
Ppositives;
Art - though I think the Cum shots are getting to big and some of the animations could have been better
Story - I don’t necessarily like where it’s going, but it’s reasonably well told.
Characters - I think the characters continue to be well written
Mechanics - I enjoyed the mansion fixing mini game
Negatives;
D&G - having now gone through it a few times, I think it was a mistake. I don’t think it’s badly done, and it’s kind of fun, especially the Sally stuff, but the energy for it, including the mini lewd scenes which I’ll probably never look at again seems wasted. I’d have liked either a bit more real world consequences to the choices in the game. (Charm Jill = Jill +1 Maya -1
Mona - She is running away at the end, it sucks, I wish MC could help her.
Jill - Tybalt blackmail sucks.
Bella - Silly that she would stay over. Also beginning to think unless you are going for her, you should leave her alone.
The last episode seemed to spend a bunch of energy saying “hey, main LI’s I’m dating other people.” This episode seems to say ”Hey, I feel guilty about dating other people and need to choose.” For a game that is only 6/12 (or even 6/18) through it is early to start to guilt the MC out. Will also bug me if it is a disaster to have fucked anyone but your main LI come the end. It seems like certainly for Bella, and possibly for Jill he is gearing up for something explosive depending on choices.
I also think this episode added to evidence for Aunty Jill .
Lynette was wealthy
Lynette died young
Jill’s sister died
We still haven’t fucked Jill (Technically no incest yet)
Jill’s sister liked to write
Lynette was on her 7th diary.
DPC clearly doesn’t mind doing Us dirty
This is still coincidental, and I’m not convinced, but just want to keep track of the hints if it does happen
Who is the traitor? Theories;
Vinny - bugged the laptop, no real evidence for this. Perhaps helped by Nick. Not clear why he would betray them.
Nick - In the library when the laptop is missing, room wasn’t vandalised. Again nothing concrete.
Rusty - wouldn’t make sense, but the phone that has been gifted to MC and Jam Jam is interesting.
Tommy - has access to the password. Has a temper. Cathy picture because he was pissed about Josy. Jade vid because he was pissed about MCs speech.
Leon - Hasn’t bothered to clean his room. Doesn’t seem to give a shit about anything.
Jamie - Perhaps not him but Dany. The feminists hate the DIKs.
Jacob - Seems unlikely. No reason, he’s room got trashed (plus from a meta stand point he now has the art, so doubtful he is a traitor)
Derek + MC - no access
In a way they could all be innocent and something else could be going on.
Broadly I like the update. I think it could have been better, but some stuff is really going to depend on where the story winds up.
Ppositives;
Art - though I think the Cum shots are getting to big and some of the animations could have been better
Story - I don’t necessarily like where it’s going, but it’s reasonably well told.
Characters - I think the characters continue to be well written
Mechanics - I enjoyed the mansion fixing mini game
Negatives;
D&G - having now gone through it a few times, I think it was a mistake. I don’t think it’s badly done, and it’s kind of fun, especially the Sally stuff, but the energy for it, including the mini lewd scenes which I’ll probably never look at again seems wasted. I’d have liked either a bit more real world consequences to the choices in the game. (Charm Jill = Jill +1 Maya -1
Mona - She is running away at the end, it sucks, I wish MC could help her.
Jill - Tybalt blackmail sucks.
Bella - Silly that she would stay over. Also beginning to think unless you are going for her, you should leave her alone.
The last episode seemed to spend a bunch of energy saying “hey, main LI’s I’m dating other people.” This episode seems to say ”Hey, I feel guilty about dating other people and need to choose.” For a game that is only 6/12 (or even 6/18) through it is early to start to guilt the MC out. Will also bug me if it is a disaster to have fucked anyone but your main LI come the end. It seems like certainly for Bella, and possibly for Jill he is gearing up for something explosive depending on choices.
I also think this episode added to evidence for Aunty Jill .
Lynette was wealthy
Lynette died young
Jill’s sister died
We still haven’t fucked Jill (Technically no incest yet)
Jill’s sister liked to write
Lynette was on her 7th diary.
DPC clearly doesn’t mind doing Us dirty
This is still coincidental, and I’m not convinced, but just want to keep track of the hints if it does happen
Who is the traitor? Theories;
Vinny - bugged the laptop, no real evidence for this. Perhaps helped by Nick. Not clear why he would betray them.
Nick - In the library when the laptop is missing, room wasn’t vandalised. Again nothing concrete.
Rusty - wouldn’t make sense, but the phone that has been gifted to MC and Jam Jam is interesting.
Tommy - has access to the password. Has a temper. Cathy picture because he was pissed about Josy. Jade vid because he was pissed about MCs speech.
Leon - Hasn’t bothered to clean his room. Doesn’t seem to give a shit about anything.
Jamie - Perhaps not him but Dany. The feminists hate the DIKs.
Jacob - Seems unlikely. No reason, he’s room got trashed (plus from a meta stand point he now has the art, so doubtful he is a traitor)
Derek + MC - no access
In a way they could all be innocent and something else could be going on.
- Sep 20, 2018
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I'm pretty sure this is incorrect; you can fool around with Angela and Hedwig in the bar without consequences as long as you don't do anything with them at Rena's house. But I'm sure as hell not going to replay AL to confirm that! (Yes, one of the LIs will still die, but that happens regardless of fooling around.)
Errr, based on your argument, wouldn't DPC NOT limit paths so that he would have more opportunities to play "Gotcha"? I think the fact he's adding all these branches is the sign there's more at work here than just punishing the player.
To me, he's trying to add 'realism' to the game by giving consequences to actions that encompass more than just the immediate circumstances around a decision. I really appreciate that effort, but it's a very tricky thing. First, it hinges on whether the consequences feel appropriate to the global circumstances, so it's obviously going to vary by individual taste. Second, it requires a certain amount of trust between the author and the player, namely that the player will accept unwanted outcomes and that the author will create a world consistent enough (and with sufficient foreshadowing) that those outcomes are fitting consequences for the decision.
To take the Acting Lessons examples, I felt like DPC succeeded on the cheating thing: the LI won't hold the MC's past exploits against him, but will hold exploits that happened after she got serious with him. Fair enough, IMHO. But I also felt DPC completely fucked up on the infamous ending: Leah being a psycho killer was in no way foreshadowed and frankly had nothing to do with the plot for the rest of the game. That was purely authorial fiat to make the game end the way DPC wanted.
So even as a fan of DPC, I feel he sometimes gets it wrong in a big way. But I do give him credit for trying something ambitious. My hope is that BaDIK will fix some of the flaws while keeping the merits, but I'm certainly keeping my eyes open.
With respect, Arigon, I think there might be a bit more to it than just fanboys raging at you for speaking truth. As I said above, what DPC is trying to do will hinge on how the reader perceives it, so there's a lot of room for differing opinions. There's also a difference between hoping DPC will get it right this time and blind faith in his abilities.
But above all else, you shouldn't dismiss the criticisms of everyone who disagrees with you as invalid. That, IMHO, is exactly the mistake DPC made when he got burned by the AL firestorm. Sure, some of the complaints were garbage, but a lot of them were not. By dismissing all of it as "peons who just didn't get it," he made it that much harder for him to learn from his mistakes.
You have to remember while the Cathy video is cannon the Jade one is not. Depending on how a playthrough is done, he may or may not have gotten the Jade video from you earlier on in the playthrough.
- Nov 3, 2020
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Jill cant be the aunty, If it were then Jill would have said hey it's your birthday the same day my sister died, how crazy, right? but no, she didnt...
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I see! That's why putting Quinn in the 1st place on ep6... wait, what?
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- Oct 14, 2020
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I have to agree with you about DPC's cruelty at playing with the feelings of his audience, after experiencing this episode.
For me it was the way he handled Sage. In earlier episodes I really liked the way he made Sage bitchy when she was tired, I felt that the minor flaw made her more real, I even thought it was kinda cute. The way she reacted in the scene with Chad though was just so completely over the top, it was just unbelievable, and it took something away from the character, some of the humanity that he had written into her earlier in the game. Then the scene in the rain, it really hurt me that I couldn't comfort Sage. In that playthrough Sage is the main LI and I have full RP points with her. And yet now this character who is so close to her can do nothing right. It's like DPC leads you along and then smacks you in the head with a hammer, almost as badly as he did at the end of episode 3 with Maya and Josy. I'm seriously considering dropping this game entirely, I just don't want my feelings to be fucked with in this way.
- Nov 3, 2020
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How can a game make us feel so fucking bad? It really never ceases to amaze me that we care so much about people who don't exist, at least to me.
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Never felt sold down the river? I mean that's what Sage is going through, emotionally. How's that unbelievable?
also if DPC is not intending to let you persue maya/josy individually anymore it would make sense to build up a new potential LI
- Sep 27, 2020
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The Jill being Lynette's sister theory is one of the worse fan theories I've ever heard, worse than Tyrion being Aerys' son.
- Oct 20, 2020
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A lot depends on how you look at it, but I mostly disagree.
Take Quinn. Yes, the MC can fool around with Quinn while still being an overall CHICK on M&J's path. But by the same token, that makes it look to Quinn as if she's just another of his dolls. Since Quinn has a big chip on her shoulder and hates feeling weak, I can see how that would tilt the balance and prevent her from opening up to the MC.
So to me this feels like one of those 'realistic' consequences I mentioned in my reply to Arigon: Quinn will only be willing to trust the MC if he makes her feel both wanted and special. I get how you might see it differently, though.
Still, to me, the real flaw is that DPC is bad at laying out coherent ground rules for how consequences in his world will play out. For the first season, nearly everything hinged on Status or Affinity, with RP adding a little depth to the scene here or there. It was rare pursuing one opportunity would foreclose another.
As we advance, Status and Affinity are becoming more rigid even as they tend to be less important than the specific actions an MC has taken before. It makes for a confusing path to navigate. This is made even worse by the muddled feedback DPC gives.
I've complained before about Maya/Josy giving contradicting explanations for why they rejected the MC; any player trying to work out their mistake based on the in-game logic is in for a serious headache. Some of the new branches are even worse because they provide NO in-game feedback that a consequence has even occurred: the MC turning down Cathy or Quinn turning down the MC thanks to the M&J path are the big offenders here. At least Jill's photo provides a coherent explanation for why the MC will turn down Nora.
The Affinity system itself has that problem in spades, to the point I don't think even DPC could give a succinct explanation for why the various choices (and only those choices!) count the way they do. Tying a bunch of consequences to that mechanic was almost doomed to rankle our feathers, but we're pretty well stuck with it now.
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