bbking42

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there is

just before kissing MC, Josy kisses Maya

but it seems that female NTR is never valid
Josy and Maya can go fuck themselves really, and they do. I do their playthrough for shits and giggles, but it required way too many GIRL choices. Also they are headaches. Maya has a cool brother and got me through my living situation, so she can still get my invites to DIK parties but probably wouldn't come knowing that me and her brother both exclude her.
Hey! I turned 12 this year, I'm growed-up enough!
Are you one of the Whitey Tighty crew from Who is the Father?

Bottom left for example
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obibobi

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If it had an American Pie vibe it would be better.
Rebirth, Leap of Faith, in the college trope Timestamps, Something to Write About-the Author, City of Broken Dreamers, Deliverance, Life Happened, Heavy Five, Light of my Life, I can go on... DPC does great renders. Story... meh.
I've only played a couple of those and none of them come close to the quality of writing. Timestamps is a very good game, a very good sex game, but the plot is messy. Seems like you're trying too hard to be a contrarian if you're going to say those games have better writing.

The bar is really low for these games but you know the writing for a sex game if good when you have a flash back with no sex, only involves male characters and you actually enjoy it.
 
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Full save for episode 3, episode 4 and episode 5

Delete your own persistent file in both (!) locations beforehand for this save to work.

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1386 - if you're in episode 1
4413 - if you're in episode 2
3985 - if you're in episode 3
0421 - if you're in episode 4
4226 - if you're in episode 5
Do the full saves work for Mac?
 

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I am at ch4 right now and I have to choose from a branch.
Derek, Sage, Isabella
If I choose one of them then I will lose the content from other 2?
If is true then which is the best way? I don't think Derek is the best choice, right?
 

felicemastronzo

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I am at ch4 right now and I have to choose from a branch.
Derek, Sage, Isabella
If I choose one of them then I will lose the content from other 2?
If is true then which is the best way? I don't think Derek is the best choice, right?

yes, the choice is final, and you do not recover lost content.

but nothing changes for the game except some lost RPs.

Derek is the basic choice, the one open to all and the least interesting

Sage is by far the choice with the most content

Bella, despite the character's problems, is the only one where the problem of chapter 3 is addressed and if you care about her, it's worth it.
 

BenMeiffert

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I am at ch4 right now and I have to choose from a branch.
Derek, Sage, Isabella
If I choose one of them then I will lose the content from other 2?
If is true then which is the best way? I don't think Derek is the best choice, right?
save your game at this point, to play the three ways...
you will miss some contents for sure... If you're DIK and want lots of HOTs scenes, then go to Sage. If you want to go for Jill or Bella, then go to Bella... If you want to suck a toe, then go to Derek.
 

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"Crashing a party" by destroying thousand of dollar of property, say it all. It's like saying someone who robs a store at gunpoint is put in jail "for stealing 10$".

And I don't think you understood my point there.

I'd use it for either.
Just talk to a lawyer, I've tried to explain, repeatedly, why this incident does not rise to the evidentiary standard that would be required for a lawsuit, and a lot of pigheaded people just keep bringing it up.
 

TheReDeeMeR

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save your game at this point, to play the three ways...
you will miss some contents for sure... If you're DIK and want lots of HOTs scenes, then go to Sage. If you want to go for Jill or Bella, then go to Bella... If you want to suck a toe, then go to Derek.
Thanks for the fast response.
I don't think the mod allows you to play all 3 and not lose content.
Anyway, I will try all off them.
I start with Derek then from the other 2,well it's a hard choice because I like Bella a lot (she is not slutty like the HOT in my opinion )
Damn, I am not a big fan of multiple branches but I will have no suck it up and make a choice.
 

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I've had criticism of BaDIK, but I would definitely say it has good writing for a sex game. When the MC reads his mom's diary was pretty good. After AL, we all know that DPC is capable of good writing.
I think a lot of people are mistaking good characterization for good writing. DPC can create good characters, it's just when he set's them to act out a story that it all falls apart imho.

I'm playing the new chapter of Leap of Faith right now, and the difference is amazing. I'm enjoying the game, I don't constantly have my guard up, expecting the author to slip in some useless or hurtful piece of drama just to be edgy. Even the Steph situation doesn't come off nearly as absurd as some of DPC's tortured contrivances.
 

moskyx

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Just talk to a lawyer, I've tried to explain, repeatedly, why this incident does not rise to the evidentiary standard that would be required for a lawsuit, and a lot of pigheaded people just keep bringing it up.
Just a few considerations about the 'blackmailing' thing. Yeah, there's no ground for any legal action against the MC. And yeah, it doesn't really matter.

Tybalt is not threatening with a lawsuit, he's just telling Jill someone else is willing to do so and he's going to stop that person. For that lie to work, he only needs Jill to trust him enough to take his word for an undisputed truth and not consider taking matters into her own hands and talk directly to that person. He also embellished MC's acts (he keeps talking about a fire that never happened, and if MC had punched him he omits his own slap) to show her MC is not a person suitable for someone like Jill (which she obviouly believes if MC told her after their first date that he's not good for her, cause then Jill never calls the MC when practicing for her concert and never goes on a second date with him). That 'mild threat' is just a way to convince Jill to not hang out with the MC because he's trouble (which, honestly, so far he is). He just says, "look, this guy did all of this, and a certain someone wants to sue him. I'll convince him not to do so, but you should start to take care of yourself and stop seeing a troublemaker like the MC". And, honestly, I can see why this could work even if the lawsuit thing is just a bluff.

So the whole point is not if there's a base for a legal case, because it will never be a legal case. The point is why an in-love Jill can believe Tybalt to that extent when he tells her there's another prep willing to sue MC. It's not a plot issue but a Jill's characterization issue: how can a girl like her believe a guy like Tybalt when she feels something for the MC? Why she believes Tybalt is going to convince that other guy and lets him do so, instead of taking matters into her own hands and clear things out with the MC and that other guy first, to know what exactly happened and what are the future consequences of it? Because she just accepts Tybalt's word on it and even when she 'rebels' against his advice and invites MC to the birthday date she's apparently decided to end things with him before knowing MC's version of the story. She was always presented as a nice, caring and inteligent girl, and now she seems to be not just naive, but socially dumb and unaware of the whole world of possibilities her surname opens to her. Which is not to be expected from someone with her background.

Because, as in Maya's case, why nobody ever consider asking for profesional help/advice when facing a legal/financial problem that goes beyond their comprehension? That's something I could believe from someone like Maya, or even the MC, but it's harder to believe from a rich girl who should be used to be around lawyers all her life.
 

shazba

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I still think DPC could do a much better job than he does in writing and should stick to his very best talent which is renders/animations.
the expression "poor writing" was not clear to me, in Italian there is no correspondent.
What adult games do you think have the best writing? I'm just curious.
I actually think this game's writing is pretty good considering it's a porn game, and the funny parts are actually funny. maybe i'm just a sucker for the american pie vibes i get from this game.
If it had an American Pie vibe it would be better.
Rebirth, Leap of Faith, in the college trope Timestamps, Something to Write About-the Author, City of Broken Dreamers, Deliverance, Life Happened, Heavy Five, Light of my Life, I can go on... DPC does great renders. Story... meh.
I've only played a couple of those and none of them come close to the quality of writing. Timestamps is a very good game, a very good sex game, but the plot is messy. Seems like you're trying too hard to be a contrarian if you're going to say those games have better writing.

The bar is really low for these games but you know the writing for a sex game if good when you have a flash back with no sex, only involves male characters and you actually enjoy it.
I've had criticism of BaDIK, but I would definitely say it has good writing for a sex game. When the MC reads his mom's diary was pretty good. After AL, we all know that DPC is capable of good writing.
Maybe some people expect JRR Tolkien level writing from this lol
I think a lot of people are mistaking good characterization for good writing. DPC can create good characters, it's just when he set's them to act out a story that it all falls apart imho.

I'm playing the new chapter of Leap of Faith right now, and the difference is amazing. I'm enjoying the game, I don't constantly have my guard up, expecting the author to slip in some useless or hurtful piece of drama just to be edgy. Even the Steph situation doesn't come off nearly as absurd as some of DPC's tortured contrivances.
I think everyone here has different interpretations on what good writing is. Here are some of the many aspects of good writing (which I've ordered as subjectively achieved by DPC):
  1. Writing good scenes - Most of the scenes are very satisfying (there are a few scenes that we keep revisiting that some people have a problem with).
  2. Writing humorous dialogue - The humor is way up there (the humor in so many games in this genre is stale or just weird).
  3. Writing engaging dialogue - The dialogue is very engaging. Considering the entire game is carried by the visual and dialogue (with virtually no narration), I have never once found it a chore reading through the scenes. Most games I've played here have bogged down at some point or other where I've just lost interest in reading and started skipping through scenes.
  4. Keeping people enthralled in a story - Totally enthralling. People burn through the episodes then pine for more.
  5. Writing good characters - Most of the characters are top notch.
  6. Making people emotional in a story - I don't think the game is too emotional however some people say it is, and AL was heralded as a high emotional game.
  7. Coming up with a good overall premise - The premise for BaDIK is fine, not entirely original but enjoyable.
  8. Writing a convincing story - and here we have the big criticism. Some aspects do not hold up under scrutiny. Some people have strongly establish they need a more detailed explanation for some of the numerous scenarios in the story.
So once again I am saying, stop saying, "DPC is a poor writer, only his renders are good", it is far too generic and is basically a useless criticism.

If you think some aspects of the story fall flat or need better explanation, there's your criticism. But by saying DPC is a poor writer, you're discarding all of the other aspects of his writing that make the game so endearing to so many.
 
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felicemastronzo

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Just a few considerations about the 'blackmailing' thing. Yeah, there's no ground for any legal action against the MC. And yeah, it doesn't really matter.

Tybalt is not threatening with a lawsuit, he's just telling Jill someone else is willing to do so and he's going to stop that person. For that lie to work, he only needs Jill to trust him enough to take his word for an undisputed truth and not consider taking matters into her own hands and talk directly to that person. He also embellished MC's acts (he keeps talking about a fire that never happened, and if MC had punched him he omits his own slap) to show her MC is not a person suitable for someone like Jill (which she obviouly believes if MC told her after their first date that he's not good for her, cause then Jill never calls the MC when practicing for her concert and never goes on a second date with him). That 'mild threat' is just a way to convince Jill to not hang out with the MC because he's trouble (which, honestly, so far he is). He just says, "look, this guy did all of this, and a certain someone wants to sue him. I'll convince him not to do so, but you should start to take care of yourself and stop seeing a troublemaker like the MC". And, honestly, I can see why this could work even if the lawsuit thing is just a bluff.

So the whole point is not if there's a base for a legal case, because it will never be a legal case. The point is why an in-love Jill can believe Tybalt to that extent when he tells her there's another prep willing to sue MC. It's not a plot issue but a Jill's characterization issue: how can a girl like her believe a guy like Tybalt when she feels something for the MC? Why she believes Tybalt is going to convince that other guy and lets him do so, instead of taking matters into her own hands and clear things out with the MC and that other guy first, to know what exactly happened and what are the future consequences of it? Because she just accepts Tybalt's word on it and even when she 'rebels' against his advice and invites MC to the birthday date she's apparently decided to end things with him before knowing MC's version of the story. She was always presented as a nice, caring and inteligent girl, and now she seems to be not just naive, but socially dumb and unaware of the whole world of possibilities her surname opens to her. Which is not to be expected from someone with her background.

Because, as in Maya's case, why nobody ever consider asking for profesional help/advice when facing a legal/financial problem that goes beyond their comprehension? That's something I could believe from someone like Maya, or even the MC, but it's harder to believe from a rich girl who should be used to be around lawyers all her life.
I share your point of view

but I raise !!!

not for nothing I consider it the second worst scene of BADIK.

Tybalt would have had a much better chance of success if he had told the truth, which in Jill's eyes would have been enough to question MC's morality (still as morally guilty as Jar Jar Derek), but he lies immediately losing every chance. and this only serves to put Tybalt in the wrong, otherwise the matter would be much more nuanced. Does it make sense for a girl like Jill to deal with a troublemaker like MC? Jill would approve of how many of MC's behaviors?

Jill's behavior is really borderline, she completely trusts Tybalt, but in this I think we are confused by the fact that everyone considers him very bad, but Jill in reality always treats him well and with respect. then we consider it a blackmail, Tybalt presents it as an advice, which in absolute would also make sense. what nonsense of Jill's behavior is the attitude with MC, really twisted, and absolutely out of character that she decided what to do before asking MC's version of what happened. she can also choose to protect him anyway, but only after understanding the situation

it's a complete waste of time, which fails to involve me in any way, and I'm sorry because Jill was a character that I liked.
 
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Happy Holidays!

It's been a very weird and possibly dark year for all of us.
But even when things are dark in our lives, we should appreciate the things that aren't and find something that keeps us going.
For me, creating this game has been a way to get through 2020. It's brought me a lot of joy through all the ups and downs.
Thank you all for the support you've shown me this year.
I remember by this time, last year, I was scared as hell for jumping ship to work on this game full-time.
You're literally the reason I can keep doing this for a living and I hope my past, current, and future efforts will show you how much your support means to me.
It's not taken for granted and it never will be.



Cheers to all of you maggot brothers and HOT sisters!
Merry Christmas and Happy holidays!
And if you're not checking in until 2021, have a wonderful new year!

Dr PinkCake
 

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Happy Holidays!

It's been a very weird and possibly dark year for all of us.
But even when things are dark in our lives, we should appreciate the things that aren't and find something that keeps us going.
For me, creating this game has been a way to get through 2020. It's brought me a lot of joy through all the ups and downs.
Thank you all for the support you've shown me this year.
I remember by this time, last year, I was scared as hell for jumping ship to work on this game full-time.
You're literally the reason I can keep doing this for a living and I hope my past, current, and future efforts will show you how much your support means to me.
It's not taken for granted and it never will be.



Cheers to all of you maggot brothers and HOT sisters!
Merry Christmas and Happy holidays!
And if you're not checking in until 2021, have a wonderful new year!

Dr PinkCake
Is that derek as Santa, if so, serious opportunity missed. :p

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felicemastronzo

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I think everyone here has different interpretations on what good writing is. Here are some of the many aspects of good writing (which I've ordered as subjectively achieved by DPC):
  1. Writing good scenes - Most of the scenes are very satisfying (there are a few scenes that we keep revisiting that some people have a problem with).
  2. Writing humorous dialogue - The humor is way up there (the humor in so many games in this genre is stale or just weird).
  3. Writing engaging dialogue - The dialogue is very engaging. Considering the entire game is carried by the visual and dialogue (with virtually no narration), I have never once found it a chore reading through the scenes. Most games I've played here have bogged down at some point or other where I've just lost interest in reading and started skipping through scenes.
  4. Keeping people enthralled in a story - Totally enthralling. People burn through the episodes then pine for me.
  5. Writing good characters - Most of the characters are top notch.
  6. Making people emotional in a story - I don't think the game is too emotional however some people say it is, and AL was heralded as a high emotional game.
  7. Coming up with a good overall premise - The premise for BaDIK is fine, not entirely original but enjoyable.
  8. Writing a convincing story - and here we have the big criticism. Some aspects do not hold up under scrutiny. Some people have strongly establish they need a more detailed explanation for some of the numerous scenarios in the story.
So once again I am saying, stop saying, "DPC is a poor writer, only his renders are good", it is far too generic and is basically a useless criticism.

If you think some aspects of the story fall flat or need better explanation, there's your criticism. But by saying DPC is a poor writer, you're discarding all of the other aspects of his writing that make the game so endearing to so many.
the first 5 points in my opinion are closely related to the fifth. you like a scene, a dialogue if its protagonists are credible and interesting.

I don't like Derek as a character (even if I decided to reevaluate him for Kellermann ), but he remains a credible character. and in fact his sentimental crisis is well done, it involved me.

the problems are all about the overall design of the story. DPC lacks the awareness that "less is more" almost always, there is often an excess in reactions, drama and information. if in the end I consider two of the theoretically most important moments of the game as two of the worst scenes, I cannot be satisfied ..

I pretend one of the two did not happen, the second I hope does not do too much damage
 
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