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Not to mention Josy will very nicely admit you were probably a mistake if you're anything but chick affanity.(Almost positive you get this if Neutral or Dik) "What we did would i do it again?" "I don't know."
Or "What we did would I do it again?" "I would."( if chik) Not exact words mind you but this is what i remember.
It's not based on Status or Affinity. Josy will express regrets if the MC turned down the chance to sleep with her in Episode 2. If she and the MC had sex, she has no regrets despite the interruption.
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Just my two cents on this whole Maya/Josy/MC lying topic.


Personally I think people are giving too much weight to the girls feelings for the MC at the time. They were not in love with him… at all in my opinion. It was a crush. Josy makes multiple references to just how little they spoke. Before the start of the game all she had was MC staring. They had their date that ended in a kiss and their second data that ended in interrupted sex… Maya lived with the MC but was all over the map with her “feelings”. Either way it never progressed to much. We’re talking about a few weeks of knowing each other for both Josy and Maya. Even as of Ep8 nobody has said they love anyone outright.

I take the MC at face value when he says he was annoyed because of the lying. He didn’t feel betrayed, he didn’t think they cheated on him. He was pissed they lied by omission (Maya goes back and forth on having a partner and is oblique about their gender. Josy is the same and failed to mention her partner went to B&R).

The MC can admit he overreacted to the Ep4 reveal. I think people are putting too much stock in any sort of “betrayal” rather than it being the MC was pissed he got blindsided because those two lied by omission at best, outwardly lied at worst but it wasn’t infidelity levels of lying. It was… something the MC chooses to get over in Ep4 regardless of if he wants to be with them.
I generally agree, though I think the MC is also upset simply because he had rationalized away dating Josy despite her "boyfriend," then suddenly found himself facing the consequences of that betrayal himself. It makes sense he'd feel foolish and angry about his behavior in retrospect and, being a teenager, lashed out at Josy rather than admit to his own mistakes.

It definitely works best if the MC pursued both M&J and was somewhat restrained with the side girls, but there's enough blame and strong emotions rolled into the situation to justify at least some drama. It would have been better if the drama could be dialed back in some circumstances (or at least better tailored to the exact situation the MC is in), but the general concept makes sense.

It's a shame the resolution was so perfunctory, though. :( And an even bigger shame the resolution to Season 2 was basically the same thing all over again, but somehow worse. Whether you let the MC act on them or not, Season 1 did take the time to establish that the MC had strong feelings for Maya and Josy, and at least the scene in the ruined library resolved the crisis (even if at least one of the resolutions is ridiculous). Season 2 is all over the map on the MC's pursuit of the girls then crams all the introspection into a single, likely-nonsensical sequence. And the episode ends before the MC can make good on his supposed revelation!

Man, I really hope the Interlude can justify its existence. :cautious:


No sound, just music. There are a few sound effects here and there, but I don't recall sex sound effects.
And thank goodness for it! I've never heard sex sound effects in a game that weren't cringe-inducing.


You guys who hated the "repair the mansion" resource management game, you do realize we're probably getting a "get ready for the Halloween party" resource management game in Season 3, right?

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I've considered that; the teaser of the mansion in Halloween trim could be for Season 3 as a whole rather than just Episode 9. But that would mean the entirety of Season 3 takes place over at most ~2 weeks. At that point I'm not sure Season 4 could get us through the first semester, which just seems to short a time period for the whole game (if we are indeed about halfway through currently).

I think it's more likely the Halloween party will be in Episode 9. A "party funding" mini-game could still be part of that, but it would presumably extend beyond just that one party. Which is fine by me, I loved the mansion repair.


When has the MC ever played it cool?
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That's not set in stone yet bro. But it's also Pink's style so i wouldn't be surprized if he stuck to his guns he's not big on polygamy if his first work is anything to go on. I'd expect about 50% more drama if you do try it a bad end and maybe one or two deaths bro so i'd just deal with it if i were you.
But I think the relationship between Jill and Isbella is very subtle . Beyond ordinary friendship . should be developed MC+Jill +Isbella threesome!
 

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I generally agree, though I think the MC is also upset simply because he had rationalized away dating Josy despite her "boyfriend," then suddenly found himself facing the consequences of that betrayal himself. It makes sense he'd feel foolish and angry about his behavior in retrospect and, being a teenager, lashed out at Josy rather than admit to his own mistakes.

It definitely works best if the MC pursued both M&J and was somewhat restrained with the side girls, but there's enough blame and strong emotions rolled into the situation to justify at least some drama. It would have been better if the drama could be dialed back in some circumstances (or at least better tailored to the exact situation the MC is in), but the general concept makes sense.
I don't understand why on such a linear plot point you have to build so much...

at the end we find out that MC was running away from himself and his toxic masculinity...

there is no misunderstanding or reworking, the girls lie (Maya) and omit (Josy) until the last moment (theoretically MC can do it in a small way, but it is not decisive in anything) and for this reason MC is faced with a shock (that surely the 19 years old F95 users would have managed in a troupe from the beginning, there are no doubts about this, threesome at every coffee break) and runs away because he does not know what to do (allowing the night not to end in tragedy)

the fact that eventually Mc admits to having overreacted doesn't change anything about what happened. so much so that when they clarify it is Maya (Josy basically understands almost nothing of what is happening and always a couple of steps back) who apologizes to MC and not the opposite, it is Maya and Josy who ask for another chance, MC accepts the apology and forgives everything (always and in any case)
 
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It's not based on Status or Affinity. Josy will express regrets if the MC turned down the chance to sleep with her in Episode 2. If she and the MC had sex, she has no regrets despite the interruption.
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If you sleep with Josy and be a dick you get the same message it is a dik/ Chick/Neutral message flag. Just so you know went back through to make sure. So i still stand behind my reasoning that Maya is more interested in you than you then Jose. Though it makes sense as you've technically spent more time with Maya than Josy.
Made sure to click every +Josy choices as well as Maya and slept with both.
She also wont regret it if you don't sleep with her but are neutral/chick
The flag you're talking about happens during the night when you're choosing who to sleep with if accept thrupple if you sleep with one and not the other. Maya sex scene true Josy sex scene true. You will be allowed to push beds together and sleep together all three of you that night. If one true one false, you will not get this option and will be forced to choose one or the other.
Note: did not check both false but i assume it would be same as False/true separate beds. But it could be they are on equal footing and will allow beds to be pushed together.
 
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the girls lie (Maya) and omit (Josy) until the last moment (theoretically MC can do it in a small way, but it is not decisive in anything)
Ahhhh, when the MC says the same lie it's "small" and "not decisive in anything". That's funny, isn it.


Anyway. For me there are two ways to see this is: either is a plot hole (and a significant one, not like the loan plot) or either the MC act like an hypocrite. Here is my argument:

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So, we know for this that the MC is also angry with Josy and blame her for alegdely a fault against him. But why? Even if, by some wierd reason Maya is at fault, why Josy?.

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Josy defense is on point, she didn't lied about it and there is no difference if it's a boy or a girl, so why the MC is still angry with her? Let's see his answer.

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So, first, the MC acknowledge the gender is not the issue. Great. But wtf is what comes next, "the difference is that it's Maya". Why? Because you are also fucking her? Josy should had tell the MC that her girlfriend is Maya, so the MC would knew that he is also fucking Josy's girl friend while she was fucking Josy? That's so selfish from Josy really...

Plus Josy didn't even knew that the MC was with Maya, so is not only absurdly egocentric but also simple absurdity. At this point the MC has nothign against Josy. Absolutely nothing.

Of couse the MC, so "honest" as usually didn't clarify this, avoid tell Josy (or Maya) that actually he was fucking both of them, and change his argument to:

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Now he goes back, he sayds Josy should have told she had a girlfriend, not a boyfriend, even after admiting it wouldn't make a difference and adds another point, she should have told the college her girlfriend was going. He could also have added other useful information like the color heair, tits size, college career and room number to make him knew he eventually was going to fuck her.

And it's not like all thoose information would make a difference. If you don't care that your booty call was in a formal relationship... why would you care if she is actually going to the same college?.

Anyway the guy who is having sex with 19 girls has to know the identity of the guy he is being cuck, otherwise he is being cheat. Bravo.
 

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And btw, thoose who still has an argument against Josy for "omiting", I would love to see in wich lines the MC exactly explain to Josy or Maya from the start, that he is dating Jill, or Bella, or Sage, or Quinn, etc.
 

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Ahhhh, when the MC says the same lie it's "small" and "not decisive in anything". That's funny, isn it.


Anyway. For me there are two ways to see this is: either is a plot hole (and a significant one, not like the loan plot) or either the MC act like an hypocrite. Here is my argument:

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So, we know for this that the MC is also angry with Josy and blame her for alegdely a fault against him. But why? Even if, by some wierd reason Maya is at fault, why Josy?.

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Josy defense is on point, she didn't lied about it and there is no difference if it's a boy or a girl, so why the MC is still angry with her? Let's see his answer.

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So, first, the MC acknowledge the gender is not the issue. Great. But wtf is what comes next, "the difference is that it's Maya". Why? Because you are also fucking her? Josy should had tell the MC that her girlfriend is Maya, so the MC would knew that he is also fucking Josy's girl friend while she was fucking Josy? That's so selfish from Josy really...

Plus Josy didn't even knew that the MC was with Maya, so is not only absurdly egocentric but also simple absurdity. At this point the MC has nothign against Josy. Absolutely nothing.

Of couse the MC, so "honest" as usually didn't clarify this, avoid tell Josy (or Maya) that actually he was fucking both of them, and change his argument to:

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Now he goes back, he sayds Josy should have told she had a girlfriend, not a boyfriend, even after admiting it wouldn't make a difference and adds another point, she should have told the college her girlfriend was going. He could also have added other useful information like the color heair, tits size, college career and room number to make him knew he eventually was going to fuck her.

And it's not like all thoose information would make a difference. If you don't care that your booty call was in a formal relationship... why would you care if she is actually going to the same college?.

Anyway the guy who is having sex with 19 girls has to know the identity of the guy he is being cuck, otherwise he is being cheat. Bravo.
The deference is it's Maya his best friend even more than Derrek at this point yes. Entirely his fault but he was angry and confused he didn't think it could happen. Had it been Sally who cares had it been Derek same issue as if it was Maya. If you are on friendly terms with him. The fact that the person was at B&R and she was trying to get in for them is kinda a huge omission in my honest opinion.
But I think what he does in this moment is in fact truly Hypocritical you are right. But, when he cheated he thought he would never meet the guy/girl that's why on the phone he's like. "He goes to B&R? What if i know him?!" Had she not said I wanna talk about this in person he probably could have worked through the issue with a more level head.
 

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when I spoke of optional and non-decisive omissions on the part of MC, I was clearly referring to when we can decide whether or not to tell Maya about the date with Josy.

that MC/we does or doesn't do it doesn't change anything, so what happens is not decided by that choice

I don't see what the relationship with the other LIs (which are optional) has to do with it, apart from causing confusion.

The deference is it's Maya his best friend even more than Derrek at this point yes. Entirely his fault but he was angry and confused he didn't think it could happen. Had it been Sally who cares had it been Derek same issue as if it was Maya. If you are on friendly terms with him. The fact that the person was at B&R and she was trying to get in for them is kinda a huge omission in my honest opinion.
But I think what he does in this moment is in fact truly Hypocritical you are right. But, when he cheated he thought he would never meet the guy/girl that's why on the phone he's like. "He goes to B&R? What if i know him?!" Had she not said I wanna talk about this in person he probably could have worked through the issue with a more level head.
Josy in the bathroom makes an incredible mess, instead of calming the situation he increases the tension.

First she escapes to the bathroom, then when Mc reaches her she wants to distribute the blame for her betrayal (she is the only one who felt she was in a relationship and in spite of this she oragnized and had sex with another person, so she is the only one who literally betrays Maya) with MC, then the unfortunate choice of words

why exactly did she call MC into the bathroom? other than continuing to go behind Maya's back....
 
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And btw, thoose who still has an argument against Josy for "omiting", I would love to see in wich lines the MC exactly explain to Josy or Maya from the start, that he is dating Jill, or Bella, or Sage, or Quinn, etc.
No one Defends MC as a saint though none of that is MC's fault all the blame for Jill Bella Sage and Quinn lies on you the player. As you can ignore their flags. If the MC was not being controlled given his past history with relationships. He would have most likely just ended up in the thrupple all his own as he was a considerably stand up guy before a bunch of porn junkies took control of him.
 

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And btw, thoose who still has an argument against Josy for "omiting", I would love to see in wich lines the MC exactly explain to Josy or Maya from the start, that he is dating Jill, or Bella, or Sage, or Quinn, etc.
And also he admits he's dating other girls during the picknick date. When they talk about strings being attached Jose and Maya already had their strings firmly linked together. MC was not in a relationship with either of them in the non sexual term closest being Maya because he thought she was single at the time.
Josy he knew he couldn't date until she "settled" her boyfriend issues.
 
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